Wynjammer S/C

[1998mess10]

I was hoping to get some insight on the Wynjammer supercharger. I'm thinking of getting one but unsure of the performance gains and reliability due to the price being cheaper then many of the other superchargers on the market.

Any information would be appreciated.

[D-Caf]

There are plenty of threads about Wynjammers under the Blown/Sprayed forum. You'll also get plenty of good hits off a search.

Some have had great luck, some have been rocky getting started. The guy who makes them has so far seemed to always stand behind his product and make it right.

I like mine :D

[12sws27]

I was hoping to get some insight on the Wynjammer supercharger. I'm thinking of getting one but unsure of the performance gains and reliability due to the price being cheaper then many of the other superchargers on the market.

Any information would be appreciated.
if you type in "wynjammer" in the search system you get lotsa info. i suggest you read thoroughly and come up with your own conclusion. i had problems with mine twice in less than 200 miles. yet i dont regret my purchase. Al Martin from Wynjammer S/C-er has been more than helpful to get mine right. others have had great experiences with it. iv heard of others thats had issues like mine as well. I've also heard to same about the powerdyne. what sold me on the wynjammer was the fact that when i call them. Al who is the owner of the company, designer of the S/C and also builds them is always the one who answers the phone. great costermer service. I've never heard anything negative about Al on this forum or 2 others that im a member on. here's a couple on newer threads about the jammer. search and you'll find plenty more. dont judge it by my these 3 threads alone. also be aware that you'll most likely end up spending alot more money on other stuff after the kit.

http://www.s10planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12468

http://www.s10planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11412

http://www.s10planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11824

http://www.s10planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12534

[12sws27]

oh and go to the New Members section on here to introduce yourself before this ends up being a welcome thread.:D

[bespurcell]

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[DiCi21]

As far as horsepower numbers, this is the only post i've come across...

http://s10planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8123&highlight=wynjammer

For those who have one installed, I am curious to know what your total costs were. Not just the price of the kit, but all of the misc. parts you needed.

[12sws27]

i probably spent $500-$700 extra. on stuff. but i really didn't "need" to. i already had a hotter coil. colder plugs were cheap. i bought a ign box that wasn't needed. t-clamps were bout $4-$6 each. i bought about 12-13 i think. they were pretty necessary. I've needed traction bars ever since i lowered my truck. i get bad wheel hop when i lose traction. it could easily be done for less than $3k. all though i went over that. and still dont have a a boost gauge or a /f gauge. i'd get a 2 pod pillar from ebay for $12 shipped hope it fits. but for $12 bucks who cares. ill just sell it if it dont.

[12sws27]

Oh yeah, welcome to the Planet.
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D-caf had his dynoed.

[1998mess10]

Hahaha thanks guys, I made a new member thread in the new members section. I've been reading up on a few installs of the wynjammer on a few members (12sws20 specifically because it is long and explains the difficulties he has been through installing it.) I'm still in the research phase of this, I want to learn as much as i can about it before i go and drop $2600+ on my truck. But most of all i want to make sure it is worth it.

[12sws27]

just remember i installed mine in a parking lot. and constantly got ask stupid ass questions buy numerous random people as well as people i know. most if not all of my difficulties or because or frustration. excluding the probs with the head-unit itself. i think im a little A.D.D. lol
if you plan on going with a jammer. dont get under-drive pulleys, after market MAF sensor, any hand held programmer or mail order PCM tunes. you cai will be replaced with the intake that comes with the s/c kit also.

[1998mess10]

I know my cai would be replaced. My truck is stock except the cai. I am an auto tech student and a tech at BMW of North America...Frustration is nothing new to me. I have a question about the PCM supplied by Wynjammer, Does it have the typical burn of mail order PCM's such as wait4me's. Does it remove torque management and the top speed limiter?

[12sws27]

I have a question about the PCM supplied by Wynjammer, Does it have the typical burn of mail order PCM's such as wait4me's. Does it remove torque management and the top speed limiter?
no, one thing about the tune that i know is differet is that they remove time opposed to adding like they'd do if you werent s/c-ed. and the tunings dont buy PCM4Less.

yes. i ask to have the after cat 02 disabled and they did. they dont remove all tm from what i understand. i told them i had a shift kit so they know. im not sure if they did anything different besides not firming up the shifts. you can ask for other stuff done im sure.

[1998mess10]

does having the post cat O2 removed still let it pass the cat efficiency moniter for OBDII emissions?

[bespurcell]

If you have to pass emissions don't do it.

[1998mess10]

as long as it doesnt request a MIL and most of the moniters have run I can pass it

[12sws27]

ok you questions to technical 4 me to answer. lol are you concerned with passing local emissions tests?

[12sws27]

now it time 4 me to ask questions.:p what does MIL?

[bespurcell]

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[1998mess10]

Malfunction Indicator Lamp (Check engine light). Sorry didnt mean to confuse you... Any vehicle 96 and newer has OBDII, Part of this system is a comprehensive component monitor. This checks all of your sensors and modules etc... and requests the check engine light to come on if it sees a problem. It has to see a specific number of problems in a drive cycle to put the light on.

[12sws27]

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lol

[bespurcell]

This is the reason you get it deleted, so the check engine light doesn't come on.

[bespurcell]

We know the rest.

[1998mess10]

Ill ask the tuner. I was asking if it would still pass an OBDII inspection. I live in NY and we have a NYVIP machine that plugs into the DLC to check the monitors and such to pass inspeciton. Its a PITA

[bespurcell]

You only need to have it deleted if you plan on getting rid of your cat. You would definitely not pass emissions without that, so I wouldn't worry about it.

[12sws27]

wont they fail you if they dont see a cat? they stop all that crap here in Florida years ago. if i was in a state that had in id just leave the cat. there supposed to flow pretty good anyway. I've heard hundreds of times that getting a high flowing cat is a waste of money if your stock is still good. so why risk it. just avoid the head aches and leave the cat.

[1998mess10]

but the post cat elimination isnt part of the wynjammer pcm tune right? i was under that impression

[12sws27]

but the post cat elimination isnt part of the wynjammer pcm tune right? i was under that impression
oh no man. im sorry. i didn't mean to give that impression. that was a option i chose. i was using that as an example to you that when you order a kit you can request certain things you want in the tune if you want.

[1998mess10]

ok thats good then... How do you like the performance gains from the kit? Noticeably faster?

[12sws27]

ok thats good then... How do you like the performance gains from the kit? Noticeably faster?
oh yeah. and im heavy. i like the gains. id love to drive a light truck with one on it.

[RedX001]

I just got my truck out of storage last week end after putting one on. You will deffenitly notice the differance

[1998mess10]

I wonder if the 60-75hp increase advertised is accurate.

[Bone Crusher]

I would feel a little more comfortable saying along the lines of 50-60 hp, but who's to tell unless they had it on the dyno. That is just a butt dyno guesstamation of when I had one installed on my truck

[12sws27]

I wonder if the 60-75hp increase advertised is accurate. yes it is.

[D-Caf]

I wonder if the 60-75hp increase advertised is accurate.

Yes it is, I had mine dynod (it's posted in a thread somewhere around here) and even with a bad tune I was in that range of gain.

[1998mess10]

Yes it is, I had mine dynod (it's posted in a thread somewhere around here) and even with a bad tune I was in that range of gain.
you also have other mods though, my truck is completely stock.
I'm wondering if I the gains are from a bare bones 4.3 or a modified one.

-Whats mods if any would be advised....

[bespurcell]

A freer flowing exhaust.

[12sws27]

the 60-75hp is the gains youll get on a bone stock truck.more with a manual trans then an auto.
id suggest you doing something to fix the traction problem you'll have with the extra power. e-fan is a good mod. it good 4 10hp. Al will suggest it. if you get 1 before you get the s/c it will make the install easier. ive heard a good exhaust system but i hear you gotta watch out and not go to big. rented mule has a meth and water injection system. i think its good for 25% hp increase. he"s running a power-dyne with more boost but is still a s/c. so check out his thread.
http://www.s10planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9438

you'll need conventional spark plugs with 1-2 heat ranges colder than factory. and a hotter coil and better wires. although D-caf is still running the stock coil and platinum plugs. thats all i can think of now.

[1998mess10]

I was thinking about the e-fans, and bigger y-pipe.
Why do you have to upgrade the ignition?
How did the CFM tb work out with the SC?
I heard it causes a lean condition.

As for the traction problem...I know a junk truck with a G80 so that along with some wider tires should be helpful. I'm not a big fan of traction bars slapping up against the frame but I might have to with the added wheel hop from the drop.

[bespurcell]

You don't have to get slapper bars...http://www.calvertracing.com/info/info.htm

[1998mess10]

With the G80 and the drop it causes alot of wheel hop

[bespurcell]

That's why you get the cal tracs. They're not slappers though.

[1998mess10]

I haven't heard of them before

[1998mess10]

I just googled them... A little pricey, I'll hold off for right now

[bespurcell]

They've been around awhile. Did you check out the link? I think a few of our members have them.

[bespurcell]

Yes. I think they're about $120 from Summit.

[12sws27]

$120 is what my lakewood bars cost. i think those caltracs or over $300. thats why i got slappers.

when your under boost its harder to get a spark. so you use a smaller gap and a hotter coil to avoid spark blow out. the colder heat range is to stop detonation.

i put the tb blade on before the s/c. i noticed a little more responsiveness. not much though. as far as it causing a lean condition, IDK. but i do have some pinging in the upper rpm range. i just haven't found out what is causing it. i thought it might have something to do with my 195* t-stat so i switched back to the 160* i already had. cuz the local auto store didn't have a 180* in stock. i dont have my s/c now so IDK if it helped. Al said it could be the tune. he said that i could send it back and they'd take more timing out. but i thought u lose hp from less timing so i wanna try a few things before i get some timing removed.

[1998mess10]

Yeah, Lakewoods are a lot cheaper and you don't need to weld anything.

I could most likely keep the coil and wires, just the plugs i think i would replace.
Whats the advantage of using the 180 stat? I've read that most people put them in out trucks and if you get the hypertech stage II you have to run a 180 stat?

[D-Caf]

you also have other mods though, my truck is completely stock.
I'm wondering if I the gains are from a bare bones 4.3 or a modified one.

-Whats mods if any would be advised....

When I had it dynod it I didn't have any other mods besides and EGR restricter and the throttle blade. The gains are from bare bones. Expect around 225-235 RWHP with a wynjammer. This is vs stock 155-165 RWHP (this is probably being generous for stock).

As for mods, the first would be a high flowing exhaust system. A 2.5" cat-back at least. Next headers. Next E-Fan. Those are for performance power.

For handling, better shocks (Edlebrock IAS are nice), wider wheels and performance tires, posi differential, better brakes.

[Zygoat]

the tb mod caused problems for me, if it wasn't for the fact that i have tuning software, it would not have been a good thing. the tb mod will only affect you during "tip in" or right when you mash the throttle, wot should be about the same, the non half moon will flow a little better.

[1998mess10]

I don't think Ill do the throttle blade mod. Throttle response is nice but other gains can be found in other places

[bespurcell]

$120 is what my lakewood bars cost. i think those caltracs or over $300. thats why i got slappers.

when your under boost its harder to get a spark. so you use a smaller gap and a hotter coil to avoid spark blow out. the colder heat range is to stop detonation.

i put the tb blade on before the s/c. i notice a little more responsiveness. not much though. as far as it causing a lean condition, IDK. but i do have some pinging in the upper rpm range. i just haven't found out what is causing it. i thought it might have something to do with my 195* t-state so i switched back to the 160* i had cuz the local auto store didn't have a 180* in stock. i dont have my s/c now so IDK if it helped. Al said it could be the tune. that i could send it back and they'd take more timing out. but i thought u lose hp from less timing so i wanna try a few things before i get some timing removed.
Sorry I was thinking about the Lakewoods.