How many horses can you get out of a 2.2?

[Admin]

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[firehawkclone]

Lose the spacer,and add nos!WAIT do they make a SC/turbo for a 2.2?

[Admin]

Good Point. Take it to the Next Level. It would be interesting to see a 2.2 loaded with all these mods to go up against a 4.3.

And they don't offer a supercharge for the 2.2's yet.

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[XxInFaxX]

ok, so you wanna do all that to run with a 4.3? why not go buy a crate motor???? i mean, the price for all those boltons is 2365.36 and thats WITHOUT shipping and tax...i think you'd be better to start with another motor! my $.02!

[Admin]

If someone bought all that at one time I would pay for shipping.

[T Man]

ill pay shipping if you pay for everything else. Make sure it is 2.8 specific and send it to me. pm me for my address he he he

[Matt 4.3 TBI]

Arthur, there is a supercharger for the 2.2 - Al's kit:
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[firehawkclone]

WooHoo,get blown!I mean SC

[Admin]

Now imagine that combined its a lot of money but you probably have the fastest 2.2 know to man.

[Tha-10]

I have a 2.5 is there hope! My s-dime is older its 1991 fuel injected.

[OBI WAN]

Not much at all on the way of 2.5 parts for performance that widely known!! SOmeone should post what they do make and if they dont, I'll poke around some!

[Killer-10]

Hey now there's hope. I'm looking at doing all that with my 2.2l I can kill a few now. but whew after this o yea

[sdime03]

Seriously dude, If your looking for power out of your 2.2 hit me up on yahoo: bamaboy_14 or AIM: dirtydime03 With the mods I have done now I easily beat a 4.3, Sparky before you even chime in you werent there any of the times. Last week I raced a 99 noma with a 4.3 from a stop he was racing too might I add, we went 1st,2nd, 3rd gear is when he finally started catching up then got a door ahead of me then i shifted into 4th and left him. I know a few things to help with power that you dont have to pay out the ass for and get 15-20hp for around 50 bucks depending on your local yards and your current mods. Seriously hit me up by that or either go to the forum I mod @ www.s10forums.com (http://www.s10forums.com)

[T Man]

First, Street racing is dumb. Period, end of story. Second, Looking at your mods, either he didnt know you were racing, or well, thats it, he didnt know you were racing. The 2.2 makes power so low in the torque curve that to pull on someone in 4th gear with an auto would be impossible, and even with a stick, improbible. Take it to the track and get a slip, post your slip, then you can talk. Third, please dont pimp your forum on here...thanks.

[droopy89]

First, Street racing is dumb. Period, end of story. Second, Looking at your mods, either he didnt know you were racing, or well, thats it, he didnt know you were racing. The 2.2 makes power so low in the torque curve that to pull on someone in 4th gear with an auto would be impossible, and even with a stick, improbible. Take it to the track and get a slip, post your slip, then you can talk. Third, please dont pimp your forum on here...thanks.

i second that

[sdime03]

First, Street racing is dumb. Period, end of story. Second, Looking at your mods, either he didnt know you were racing, or well, thats it, he didnt know you were racing. The 2.2 makes power so low in the torque curve that to pull on someone in 4th gear with an auto would be impossible, and even with a stick, improbible. Take it to the track and get a slip, post your slip, then you can talk. Third, please dont pimp your forum on here...thanks.


First, I'm not pimping my forum on here I'm tryin to help him out, gotta problem with that? If so, sign out and never log back in because thats not what your here for. Second, Do you have a 2.2? have you had a 2.2? Have you modded a 2.2? If so I dont see much room for you to be talking. With the right size throttle body and the right vacuum in certain spots you can greatly improve torque and in the right spots. My torque starts at idle and drops off at 5,000 RPM's. I've beat everything from ricers to full size V-8 trucks in my lil 4 banger that you deem as a paper weight. Third I have a few slips when I had less mods and in the 1/8 mile i got a RT of .742, 2.5 @ 60' 11.5 @ 1/8 @ 62mph...thank you

[droopy89]

11.5 in the 1/8th works out to around 16 or 17 or so in the 1/4, stock 4.3s can run mid 15s

[sdime03]

Thats the 1/4 not the street...I wouldnt even get out of 3rd in the 1/4 so how would you know how my 4th gear is like? IMO If you dont have a 2.2, havent had a 2.2 or havent modded a 2.2 you have NO room to talk

[droopy89]

actually my friend and i did a little to his 2.2, still kinda slow, but its faster than stock, post up some pics of your timeslips.

[Mikz86TA]

Yeah--take that T-Man!! LMAO---Is this for real? I got cramps pulling the BS flag out so many times on this one. If your gonna throw around races and numbers, please be realistic. Ive been around the track, street races, dynos, domestics, imports and built motors from scrap, and you want us to believe that your setup on a 2.2 which is mere bolt-ons is going to give the HP-to-Weight ratio such a boost to surpass even a stock 4.3 motor even stock. Step away from the glue son. I am not here to knock the 2.2 motor. It has been a good and reliable base for GM in the past years. I respect anyone who wants to improve and learn with what they have. Hell, Id even help out a guy with a friggin Yugo get a few more ponies if he was wating to do so. But youve just stepped beyond your realm in knowing what it takes to make HP. Also dont come on here putting down the PLANET faithful like T-MAN and Sparky. I believe you should take your own advice about not logging on if you one cannot take criticism and not post realistic help for the others here. There are some good 2.2 faithful here and Id rather see them get real help and not BS bragging!

[j894]

Hey, bud chill out for one thing.
you don't need to own, previously owned, or mod a 2.2 to know how they are.
Its a OHV economy truck engine. Its not made for performance, they dont respond to mods that well. its a 120hp 4banger in a 3,200 lb truck

11.5 in the 1/8 translates to nearly 18 seconds in the 1/4, which is foking agonizingly slow. Most 4.3s run around low to mid 16s, some in the 15s. Which is still slow. Im doubting you beat a 4.3 N/A. Check around other forums, people have put a turbo along with other mods on it only to run high 15, low 16. Its doubtful with a few bolt on mods that you've taken 2 seconds off your 1/4m time.

You don't add power just by adding a Tb. A tb is only a part of it, there's the exhaust side of it, and a few other "bottle necks". You need to be able to use the air to make power from it.

BTW, if you have vacuum, you have restriction. You dont have/need Vacuum in "certain spots", & dont get power out of it . An unrestricted engine in a perfect world has 0" of vaccum

[j894]

Thats the 1/4 not the street...I wouldnt even get out of 3rd in the 1/4 so how would you know how my 4th gear is like? IMO If you dont have a 2.2, havent had a 2.2 or havent modded a 2.2 you have NO room to talk

generally the faster you go, the less mechanical advantage you have to accelerate/maintain speed (up shifting). So you as you get into higher gears you accelerate SLOWER!. Slow in 1st, 2nd, & 3rd, is even slower in 4th!

[sdime03]

If you say so homie...If youre calling BS bring me a stock 4.3 and I'll gladly show you I'd outrun you, come to talladega alabama and meet me then try to talk BS after I outrun you

[droopy89]

Third I have a few slips when I had less mods and in the 1/8 mile i got a RT of .742, 2.5 @ 60' 11.5 @ 1/8 @ 62mph...thank you

Well if you had less mods than now, it should be faster, but Id like to see the timeslips, otherwise, please quit spreading BS 2.2 info around, thanks

[j894]

As slow as mine is, I doubt that.

Why dont you just go to the 1/4 mile track run it & post a copy of the time slip on here?
or a video,....otherwise there is no creditability

[87wildside]

Yeah--take that T-Man!! LMAO---Is this for real? I got cramps pulling the BS flag out so many times on this one. If your gonna throw around races and numbers, please be realistic. Ive been around the track, street races, dynos, domestics, imports and built motors from scrap, and you want us to believe that your setup on a 2.2 which is mere bolt-ons is going to give the HP-to-Weight ratio such a boost to surpass even a stock 4.3 motor even stock. Step away from the glue son. I am not here to knock the 2.2 motor. It has been a good and reliable base for GM in the past years. I respect anyone who wants to improve and learn with what they have. Hell, Id even help out a guy with a friggin Yugo get a few more ponies if he was wating to do so. But youve just stepped beyond your realm in knowing what it takes to make HP. Also dont come on here putting down the PLANET faithful like T-MAN and Sparky. I believe you should take your own advice about not logging on if you one cannot take criticism and not post realistic help for the others here. There are some good 2.2 faithful here and Id rather see them get real help and not BS bragging!
Couldn't have said it better. The members of the Planet pride themselves as not being a**holes and this thread has got out of hand. I say go back to your site where you would fit in.

[T Man]

I will let the others around here who are as experienced and more so than I am back me up, You have no leg to stand on. I wont log off and not log back on because then we would be an administrator short. Unlike other sites, I wont ban you for that attack, I called you on your bull****, and you had nothing other than a personal attack, but you are hereby warned.


By the way whats with this "a little vacuum in the right spots" business...please enlighten me in your wise ways. I vaccum my floor boards, find change, change buys speed parts, I go faster...is this what you are talking about?

[87wildside]

I will let the others around here who are as experienced and more so than I am back me up, You have no leg to stand on. I wont log off and not log back on because then we would be an administrator short. Unlike other sites, I wont ban you for that attack, I called you on your bull****, and you had nothing other than a personal attack, but you are hereby warned.


By the way whats with this "a little vacuum in the right spots" business...please enlighten me in your wise ways. I vaccum my floor boards, find change, change buys speed parts, I go faster...is this what you are talking about?
haha....YOU TELL 'EM T MAN

[droopy89]

I vaccum my floor boards, find change, change buys speed parts, I go faster...is this what you are talking about?

Yes, im glad im not the only one that does this

[Mikz86TA]

Maybe he is referring to the 'e-bay blower/vaccum supercharger' thingy. Is that it?

[sdime03]

No i'm not you tard...on a 2.2 in a certain hose you increase the fuel pressure by 10 lbs and it stays 10 lbs higher throughout the whole rpm range....It wasnt a personal attack to you it was an attack torwards all 2.2 haters, so what if i get 30mpg and still easily outrun a stock one...If you wanna get technical I could care less if you ban me, It wouldnt be the first time i got banned from this different(nicely said) forum around once every 6 months i might wander over here....Well since no one believes me why hasent anyoone taken me up on my offer? thats what i thought thank you!

[T Man]

No i'm not you tard...on a 2.2 in a certain hose you increase the fuel pressure by 10 lbs and it stays 10 lbs higher throughout the whole rpm range....It wasnt a personal attack to you it was an attack torwards all 2.2 haters, so what if i get 30mpg and still easily outrun a stock one...If you wanna get technical I could care less if you ban me, It wouldnt be the first time i got banned from this different(nicely said) forum around once every 6 months i might wander over here....Well since no one believes me why hasent anyoone taken me up on my offer? thats what i thought thank you!

No one believes you because
A) We arent dumb and we wernt born yesterday, we know what stock 2.2's are capable of, we know what highly modified 2.2's are capable of. We also know what bolt on 2.2's are capable of. You have a 2.2l OHV motor. Nuff Said
B) We havent taken you up on your offer because frankly you are a waste of time. For me Ive got nothing better to do, but you are several states away, not worth my gas to drive over there and make you look bad.
B) Your lack of maturity on here suggests your intelect being of the lesser stature. Your obvious lack of technical knowledge saying you make torque from off idle to 5k (duh, every motor does, the fact that you peaque quickly then fall off from that 135 lb/ft mountian is what matters) also points to the fact that you probably heard about your little vacuum trick, but have no basis to judge it on. Did you hook up a fuel pressure gauge, so you could monitor exactally what is happening, probably not (although you will say yes in a horribly lame attempt to make me look bad) so you are basing what you are preaching as gospel on some other jackasses experience. BTW, if you ran a 2.2 with 10 psi more all over the RPM range you arent doing yourself any favors. Your displacement is the same, your cam is the same, you only have a bigger tb and exhaust which doesnt warrant the need for that much additional fuel.


We thank your for playing, and your strife has been quite entertaining, but why dont you run along back to your other forum, we have delt with one like you in the past. (Can anyone say Importmaster?) If you could care less if I ban you, save me the trouble and just leave.


One more of those and you are on vacation...

Thanks, s10planet staff


And yeah, I am a 2.2 hater...your motor fits on the left half of mine

[j894]

Well since no one believes me why hasent anyoone taken me up on my offer? thats what i thought thank you!

Your the one one throwing out the challenges & shooting your mouth off trying to prove no one's sure what. Why dont you leave your sweet home Alabama & come race one of us.

Or better yet, take it to the track get a video & a timeslip, which will be proof.
Wait wait. Better yet. Why dont you go on PINKS! haha

[Hammer Head]

I'd race you, I've got a stock 4.3 & it has the 4L60E. Bring it on up here to Chi-town.

[high_ohh]

yea i have a 2.2 ive put a cold air intake and full exhaust and raced a 4.3 before i did after i did the mods only difference i noticed is a loud sucking sound on top of the exhaust screaming which makes you think you are faster. also raced a 2.3 v6 chrysler and him for a split second off the line STREET racing and as soon as i hit 2nd he passed. so im pulling the BS flag on all the crap you said your truck can do with a vaccum and going faster in a higher gear.so lets see pics of all the stuff you did? time slips, pics of the truck and all of that.

[Hammer Head]

..I have a stock 4.3.. hopefully soon it'll be out & the 6.0 will be in there.

[droopy89]

Or better yet, take it to the track get a video & a timeslip, which will be proof.
Wait wait. Better yet. Why dont you go on PINKS! haha

That was my idea, but id like to see a time slip or a video.

[nomaboy]

No i'm not you tard...on a 2.2 in a certain hose you increase the fuel pressure by 10 lbs and it stays 10 lbs higher throughout the whole rpm range....It wasnt a personal attack to you it was an attack torwards all 2.2 haters, so what if i get 30mpg and still easily outrun a stock one...since no one believes me why hasent anyoone taken me up on my offer? thats what i thought thank you!

this proves you are full of it. if you added that much fuel there would be no f'n way you would be getting 30 mpg. i'm sure that if you drove to someone elses track they would be happy to kick your ass. i would, but you may want to consider buying a ricer wing first, just so we could have a fair race. :rolleyes:
i drive a 2.2 everyday. it is a company truck and it is slower than anything i have ever drivin before. no way would it ever come close to beating my truck, under any circumstances. we don't hate 2.2L's here. they are good on gas and really reliable. they were never built to go fast and anybody that knows anything about engines knows that bigger is always better when you are talking about power. ever wonder why PROFESSIONAL racers use v-8's??
i suggest that you buy yourself a honda, and find a different place to post your BS. :banghead_

[tmoney0501]

for christs sake, its a 4 cylinder, and you are challenging.... at the least... stock v6's, you cant throw BS at people who do this stuff everyday.

[disrespecteds10]

i think the 2.2 connected rods in a cavalier are rated at about 210hp, so they may be the same. Take a look at this site and search around:
www.j-body.org (http://www.j-body.org)

[T Man]

Just because the connecting rods can handle a certan hp, doesnt mean that the motor is pushing that much. Theoreticaly I could push nearly 750hp on the bottom end of my 383, but Im not anywhere close to that.

[Mikz86TA]

What!! Whoah, wait just a moment......You mean to tell me that I spent big bucks on these Z-rated tires and just putting them on isnt going to make my truck go 150MPH? Boy, I mustve gotten hoodwinked by that tire guy. LOL J/K I had to be facetious on that one. Sorry for the interruption.
Just because the connecting rods can handle a certan hp, doesnt mean that the motor is pushing that much. Theoreticaly I could push nearly 750hp on the bottom end of my 383, but Im not anywhere close to that.

[high_ohh]

hahahaha all that reminds me of a friend of mine who said he could get 25 extra hp with a new mass flow air sensor lol. and even when the cavy had the same engine like the s10 it still could get up and go faster

[Snafu'03]

Plus who here still has a "stock" 4.3?

*sniffle* i still have a stock 4.3... =( lol.. hoping for the overtime soon so i can start moddin my new xtreme a lil =D

[Mikz86TA]

Its alright Snafu...at least your in the right place for starting the mods. If you want a whistle-tip, a hair dryer turbo and/or a horsepower building racing stripe kit, then you might wanna head on over to the 'other' forum.
*sniffle* i still have a stock 4.3... =( lol.. hoping for the overtime soon so i can start moddin my new xtreme a lil =D

[high_ohh]

hahah so true

[Sparky2263]

Damn. Go away a few months, come back, and still got some jack-off harping about 2.2's ungodly hp.........

Un-fokking-believable.

We should make a standard, copy and paste response for 2.2's. It would be about 2 pages long, cover everything we've said over the last (3 years for me) and I bet we'd still get "Yeah, but.....blah.....blah.......blah.....ad nauseum......

He is right about one thing. We did ban his ass for general stupidity once. Maybe twice?

[j894]

Well, I suppose we can make an exception. :p
Mine is stock too. :cry_125: :cry_125: :cry_125:

'd still wax a 2.2... even if it did have "vacuum in the right spots"

[Sparky2263]

I know the right spot he can put some vacuum on..........

:D

[Mikz86TA]

Get em Sparky LOL
I know the right spot he can put some vacuum on..........

:D

[high_ohh]

ohh man i remebered that guy that said the thing about the vaccum. go to his cardomain and see his truck but he was telling me way back in the day when i was on s10forum(not long i didnt like them) telling me not to get the s/c for my truck but a "turbo cause you can get soo much more hp out of that" think he said up around 250 somethign dont really remeber how much but looks like he went with a vaccum lol

[high_ohh]

Posted by dirtydime0369 (http://www.cardomain.com/id/dirtydime0369)
08/10/2006, 07:01pm
Hey man, mine sounds pretty damn good and even confuses the 4.3 guys on what i have....
that is from cardomain lol

[j894]

we all weren't dumb enough to go along with & not to question his BS, lol

[87wildside]

Shold have used yellow, makes it faster.......hehe

[Hammer Head]

Really? Maybe that's why my truck feels so fast.

[87wildside]

Really? Maybe that's why my truck feels so fast.
That and the racing stripes!

[Hammer Head]

Holy **** you're right! I should be able to do the 1/4 in 15 seconds no problem. Damn!!

[87wildside]

No......you have the 4.3, need a 2.2 to go that fast. Less weight..haha

[Hammer Head]

hahaha

[nomaboy]

a "170HP monster". yea, thats why it runs 11.5 in the 8th. dumbass.

[high_ohh]

i couldnt help but add more in here after remebering who the guy was i couldnt help but add more after i looked at his cardomain lol

[Mikz86TA]

This .JPG is named Douche...hahaha....I love it....what a baffoon
Shold have used yellow, makes it faster.......hehe

[87wildside]

This .JPG is named Douche...hahaha....I love it....what a baffoon
I did that........hehe
Glad someone saw that!

[high_ohh]

haha nice

[Mikz86TA]

I seem to notice crazy stuff like that

[Hammer Head]

I saw that, too.. but I know that's your word. haha

[87wildside]

I saw that, too.. but I know that's your word. haha
hehe

[Mikz86TA]

Bag a la douche = thats the Frenchy way to say it LOL

[Hammer Head]

Sounds like you have some experience w/ douches, Mike.

[Mikz86TA]

All the time HH. They seem to all come around the same time. I always look for the douche bus that brings them in all at once.

[high_ohh]

ohh yea like the hundai drivers with the big spoilers and like funny looking fart cans that sound like a monkey getting raped? cause if thats a group of douches then ive seen plenty

[T Man]

What is a group of douche bags called? Is it a gaggle, like geese? A flock, a herd? How bout we coin a new one....a Daggle of Douches (kind of like Gaggle, but with a D to flow with the "douche"...see what I did there)

[nomaboy]

common guys, even douches serve a purpose....:)

[high_ohh]

lol goodone Tman. and they serve a purpose they remind us why we didnt do what they did

[Hammer Head]

...they make the world smell a little better..

[87wildside]

Daggle of Douches.......hehehe
:thewave: