Colorado Extreme

[T Man]

I hate to be a traitor and all, but has anyone seen the new extreme colorados? from the pics on the website, they look bad as hell. I think that at the end of the summer, im gonna sell all my trucks and buy one. Tell me what you think

http://trucks.about.com/library/graphics/05_ls_extreme_ext_rearside.jpg

this in all black with polished wheels, the 220hp motor and a 5 speed.

[blazen]

go for it they do look pretty sweet. i didn't like them when they first came out but there really growing on me.

[04FULLSIZE]

looks alright ground effects kits is kinda ugly IMO, are those brake ducts or something behind the front wheels, or are they just stickers?

[XxInFaxX]

i like em...and i think they are stickers

[T Man]

look like stickers to me. if i get what I am probably gonna ask for all of my trucks, ill only have to get a loan for like 5000. not a bad deal for a brand new truck

[Minitrucker4lyfe]

Doesn't look too bad but its way to tall and needs a rollpan immediately.

[DROPPEDGMC]

not too bad:D

[Maximus]

It looks shockingly similiar to this for some reason.http://www.sicgmtrucks.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=676&stc=1http://www.sicgmtrucks.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=675&stc=1

[Maximus]

And it looks like you can get the xtreme in a crew cab.Looks a little weird as a crew to me.http://www.sicgmtrucks.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=677&stc=1

[T Man]

i happen to like the bumper on there. the crew cab is too long for me

[LEADFOOT]

It looks shockingly similiar to this for some reason.http://www.sicgmtrucks.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=676&stc=1http://www.sicgmtrucks.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=675&stc=1
Is the blue one a toyota? I think it looks sportier; if thats even a word.....................or did I just make it one.

The xtreme, IMO, is supposed to look a little more sporty.

[OBI WAN]

T-Man, your not the only traitor per say!

Dodge started this stupid sizing thing because they couldnt sell anything other than there full sizes. They maybe thought that the mini wasnt right, well it was thier piece of ****, poorly built, thought out mini that didnt work. SO they went mid sized in hopes of that being the answer. Why GM followed that poor sales mid truck, I dont know. I can see the SUV part to some degree, a S10 Blazer is a little to small for a bigger not in number (Physically) family, while the Suburban style is right for the size, but outside the budget allowed.

I personally bought the S series because I needed something to haul with. I dont need the ability to carry 4x8 sheets of lumber all the time , so the bed didnt have to be large. I am not a physically larger person and like to fit into something and not feel like I bought a shoe to large. The S does this and the Colorado/Canyon does not. These vehicles are also not budget friendly as the S is. Cant carry the full size load, but resembles it so close that you may think it might! Even though the S cant carry the same load I know this and can adapt when needed. It sold, bottom line in dam good numbers and I dont see where a pickup needs to have a mid, SUV yes, pickup no!

GM will pay for this and thats why you are seeing what your seeing. They hope these attempts at copying what the S did well will move us over into that realm on our next purchase since the sales at this point are disappointing. I personally dont want a Fullsize 100% copycat in a downsized version, if I wanted pyiscal size and higher pricing I'd get a full size!!!



CAN YOU HEAR US NOW GM??? F/U to your midsize and if you attempt to continue without offering the S10 in some form, I'll go elsewhere and never buy a GM truck again!! The line has been drawn!! MY old muscle car days you killed allready by making the affordable based go fast cheap cars so high priced I cant afford them. Then you take away my secondary means of transportation that still offered both things I like. SCREW YOU!!


I actually wrote something along this line on a customer survey form I got from GM. See we buy a new car every 2 years between me and the wife and keep each car 4 years, so I gave them what I felt was my opinion.

[20Xtreme02]

Ummm.... Unhappy with the General, you are!

[20Xtreme02]

The looks of the Colorado Xtreme haven't "grown" on me yet. It's seems a little chunky to me. I have to agree with the Master, I wish they hadn't killed the S10. It was right-sized for many people. However, if you like it, go for it! I would like to hear what an owner thinks of the Colorado.

[OBI WAN]

General Motors seems to have the edumacted people working for them whom think what they been edumacted to know is correct. I know hundreds of S series owner, hundreds if the muscle car era people and so on. We say keep the S truck, and keep the muscle car as a stipped down version etc, do they listen to the masses that made these vehicles as popular as they are, NO. They listen to the pukes that are edumacted doing there research in order to make the other edumacated ahole owners happy. GM, Chevorlet in general was designed to be a working mans car and you could go to Buick, Pontiac, Caddy, Oldsmobile if you wanted the upper versions of these creations with changes to them to reflect a more defined car.
Now what do you get, well a affordable full size truck is a piece of crap that uses the least good parts they could stick in them. Want the better versions that have the options etc you want, your into the 30's. GTO is another fine example, when it first came out it was a cheap mans weekend warrior with very few addons, and even as the years progressed it still was within the means of a average guy. NOW BUY ONE OF THEM C*CKSUCKERS, it'll set ya back a mortgage payment. A stripped down no frills S used to run sub 14's, you cant get a truck under 18K now and if it is, the fullsize thing I said earlier applys!!

Lets see, I bought a new 1976 Z-28 when I got kicked outta highschool as a beater to my 69 Camaro. I made over min wage by a good shot,$4 and hour when min was $2.15, my new Camaro costed me $4600 and some odd change. 2000 when I looked at the last Z I wanted to buy ran $28,000 and min wage here is $5.15. SOmebody see something I dont. I could have just as HARD afforded the 2000 Z-28 as I did when I was 16 and making sh*t loads less!!! Its still a weeks pay to make the loan in 4 years!!!

[Supercharged-ZQ8]

There are a few things about the Colorado that I still don't like, personally. The front end is (again, in my OPINION) ugly, and the body lines are too chunky looking -- plus the whole thing looks like a giant door-wedge (those little rubber or wood wedges that are used to prop doors open). All those backward sweeping angles just don't look right to me.

The two biggest problems I have are 1) the "upscale" motor and 2) the price-point. I'm sorry, but the I5 may have better hp numbers, but the torque is lacking. Sure, it may be more fuel efficient and have a more even power curve (yes, I HAVE driven a couple -- still not impressed), but something just isn't RIGHT about an I5 being the best motor offered for the truck. With all the cab configurations available (but still no sportside bed!), three to be exact, there ought to be more motor configurations available. An I4 (2.8), an I5 (3.5), and a V something (how about a 4.8L?!).

Frankly, I don't use my own truck as a daily driver, so it's not leaving my possession any time soon. My Cavalier is my daily driver, and when the time comes to trade-up, I don't know what I'll get. I'm thinking about a truck, but it sure as HELL won't be a Colorado. Hell, for a couple thousand more I can get a REAL truck. Either that, or I may turn-coat and buy a Ranger -- at least Ford knows NOT to cancel a top-seller. Either that, or I'll trade my Cavalier on a Tahoe for the wife and take her Blazer for MY daily driver. That's the way I'm leaning right now. The Blazer is in excellent shape, and only recently hit 40K miles. Granted, I would need to do a couple more mods to it (mainly stereo), but other than that I could GLADLY drive it every day.

[XxInFaxX]

sounds like someone has some sexual frustration built up!

[Maximus]

We have had a long standing distaste with the Colorado and GM's never ending desire to convince us it's the best truck ever made.All I can say is keep trying im still not sold.:nutkick:

[T Man]

Here is the reason for my decision. I want a new truck, but I really dont need a fullsize. I have driven my fullsize for a couple of years now, and while it is fun, and it does turn heads, it is too much. I want a new truck, I want to be the 1st owner, I want the window sticker, you know what I mean? I just got in the market a few years too late. Had I had the opportunity, I would have bought an extended cab Xtreme with the 4.3 and a 5 speed. I want to buy a truck with the options I want, without looking for a couple of years. By all means if an xtreme come up that meets my criteria, and I can see some sort of service reccord, it will be mine, but since that is very unlikely in the next 6 months, it will probably be the colorado extreme

[Maximus]

Hey bro you don't have to make your case to me at all.If you like the truck and it's what your looking for then who gives a fock what anyone else thinks.I don't dislike the truck at all.I am in the minority with you there.I like the looks and the way they are built.I just don't like what it stands for which was the end of the S10.I don't like the options chevy gave us with it and putting us in a place we were not in with the S10,at the end of the pack.The S10 was hands down the best mini truck made.We had the most power the best looks and bragging rights to the fastest production truck ever made with the Sy/Ty's.The I4/I5 engines are awesome engines and are a great option.I mean 220hp out of a 5 banger is a pretty good accomplishment no question about it.But the fact that they are the only options is what kills us.So we go from being the best is class to the you will lose your azz.I hope GM gets their head out of there azz and get a engine in the Colorado that will put us back in front.If it had a 5.3 option I would really seriously look in to getting one.But as they stand now I would by a Tacoma over the Colorado.But I guess we will see.Thses desperate commercials they are running is just a sign that they are starting to feel the pinch and I love it.

[OBI WAN]

Hey bro you don't have to make your case to me at all.If you like the truck and it's what your looking for then who gives a fock what anyone else thinks.I don't dislike the truck at all.I am in the minority with you there.I like the looks and the way they are built.I just don't like what it stands for which was the end of the S10.I don't like the options chevy gave us with it and putting us in a place we were not in with the S10,at the end of the pack.The S10 was hands down the best mini truck made.We had the most power the best looks and bragging rights to the fastest production truck ever made with the Sy/Ty's.The I4/I5 engines are awesome engines and are a great option.I mean 220hp out of a 5 banger is a pretty good accomplishment no question about it.But the fact that they are the only options is what kills us.So we go from being the best is class to the you will lose your azz.I hope GM gets their head out of there azz and get a engine in the Colorado that will put us back in front.If it had a 5.3 option I would really seriously look in to getting one.But as they stand now I would by a Tacoma over the Colorado.But I guess we will see.Thses desperate commercials they are running is just a sign that they are starting to feel the pinch and I love it.

Nicely stated!!!

[LEADFOOT]

Here is the reason for my decision. I want a new truck, but I really dont need a fullsize. I have driven my fullsize for a couple of years now, and while it is fun, and it does turn heads, it is too much. I want a new truck, I want to be the 1st owner, I want the window sticker, you know what I mean? I just got in the market a few years too late. Had I had the opportunity, I would have bought an extended cab Xtreme with the 4.3 and a 5 speed. I want to buy a truck with the options I want, without looking for a couple of years. By all means if an xtreme come up that meets my criteria, and I can see some sort of service reccord, it will be mine, but since that is very unlikely in the next 6 months, it will probably be the colorado extreme
Check some gm dealerships. I bought my blazer x from a buick dealership. They knew how fast they would sell and bought them from gm, they were leased vehicles. The one I got was well taken care of, from what I can tell. The 03 2 year lease is coming up for turn-in. So there will be some of them out there to buy. Just be careful what you buy, have it checked out by a good bodyshop to see if it has ever been wrecked. They had 3 of them that had been wrecked where I bought mine. I check everything over and try not to miss anything. Carfax is only good if the incident is reported.

[OBI WAN]

Carfax is only good if the incident is reported.

OK, with that said I would like to share a didley!!! Did you know that all GM parts including body panels etc are numbered???


KNow why??? KNow what happens if and incident isnt reported??? Car Fax was setup on this premise, now will see what happens!!

[LEADFOOT]

KNow why??? KNow what happens if and incident isnt reported??? Car Fax was setup on this premise, now will see what happens!!
I don't understand, what do you mean? I know that the panels are numbered, but I don't know what happens if an incident isn't reported.

[OBI WAN]

The panels are marked to deter insurance fraud and chop shops. The database which carfax is from is for reporting the change in panel numbers due to replacement. If a car is stolen, parts are stolen etc,its easier to trace this way. Insurance frauds are also easier to track with this. The only part they havent nailed down how to treat and react to is when a accident happens and the owner gets his own parts how this would be included! Your allowed under your own monies to fix your car instead of going through insurance! You cannot use insurance monies anymore with the good insurance companies to fix it yourself!! This was to cut down in insurance frauds, selling frauds and make body shops come above boards on claims and deter the possiblity of using stolen parts. So if a panel is not numbered it can be impounded till the issue is resolved and found not to be and illegal scenerio!!

There been alot of legislative talk in how to make this more defenseable and aftermarket for now is keeping it pretty well tied up. Direct manufacturers replacement parts are, I heard to be coded either allready or in the near future so a simple hand held scan can be done quickly. Chip implants of sorts!!

[Maxx]

Back to the Colorado. Hahn Racecraft is currently designing a turbo for the mid size box. I found this out in the Truckin' mag. It is a 1 of 101 new products of SEMA.
Check here for updates, its currently not listed but you could call them.
http://www.hahnracecraft.com

[T Man]

i dont know if i could put a turbo on a domestic truck. it would be fun, but it need a super!!

[20Xtreme02]

I wouldn't be surprised if there were still a few new Xtremes sitting on a dealer lot or two somewhere. Should be able to search on the Internet.

[T Man]

ill look into it. man that would be cool

[20Xtreme02]

FYI, the April issue of Mini Truckin has a lowered, tricked out Colorado on the cover and in the center-spread. I don't think it's an Xtreme, but it looks pretty sharp!

[Maximus]

FYI, the April issue of Mini Truckin has a lowered, tricked out Colorado on the cover and in the center-spread. I don't think it's an Xtreme, but it looks pretty sharp!http://www.sicgmtrucks.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=683&stc=1

[extreme gmc]

There been alot of legislative talk in how to make this more defenseable and aftermarket for now is keeping it pretty well tied up. Direct manufacturers replacement parts are, I heard to be coded either allready or in the near future so a simple hand held scan can be done quickly. Chip implants of sorts!!
obd 3 sort of?

[Hammer]

i can't stand the way that air dam looks, that is horrible.

[Hammer]

i'm telling you guys
www.coloradofans.com there are lists of topics active about how much better the colorado is than the s10 in refinement. i should hope so, they cost as much a full size if you buy it loaded, duh!

the xtreme is a disgrace to the s10 xtreme, the s10 xtreme was an embarrassment to the syclone but.... atleast it was still an s10 and not a tacoma with chevy badging, or a dakota copy.

i want gm's explanation for the 5 cylinder engine, point blank i could understand it if they were ending the V8 era, but the 4.3l should have evolved like the 5.3L did, no instead they'll hack a cylinder off the trailblazer inline 6 put it in the "new toyota, i mean 355 truck" and call it a day. too bad they didn't lower the prices if supposively they were streamlining the manufacturing process. gm's ploy to cut costs be more profitable and gouge the costomer round 15.

look at a base model 355, look at a base model 03 s10 tell me which looks better. the 355 performs better but it is horribly ugly.

i agree the inside info on what regular gm people wanted vs what they "thought" we wanted was not even CLOSE. i've seen the same trucks on the lot at richard chevrolet here in ct for atleast 8 months, no joke. i've seen maybe 10 in the whole state and drive 2hrs of it everyday.

[Hammer]

gm can take there dakota/tacoma clone and STICK IT, i'd buy a dodge and replace the tranny before i'd buy a colorado regardless of it's underated towing capacity, stupid gadgets and better engine. they paint is still the same, go look under one. it's overspray from painting the side panels ontop of primer. more primer than overspray.

yeah, i've got issues with the 355/colorado. end it before people really believe there is no chance the dime will come back. i hate to think of the people buying yotas and nissans and dodges because of the 355 design. it hasn't won an award like motor trend or anything since it's introduction. the reviews are mediocre but the styling is BAD to put it mildly

[Maximus]

Come on Hammer tell us how you really feel lmao!!I am with you on a lot of that bro.I hope the truck tanks bad so GM will do what needs to be done to make it right.And getting some real truck guys opinions would damn sure be a good start.

[PitchBlackBlzr]

These Colorado's look like shyt, overpriced and deffinatly not a good replacment for the s10 in no way shape or form, as stated by many other members of this forum I too hope that GM gets bit in the ass on this one and it dives to a point where they try to bury the whole thing. I dont even want to get started on the whole issue of thier cars..because I might just have to write a post so long it turns into a sticky about that nasty ass Aveo(ricer wanna-be shoe). Needless to say if they dont want to listen I'll take my buisness somewheres else!

[white00s10]

honestly, i was pretty upset when they killed the s series, i startedto look at the colorado, didnt like it, looks chiseld and ugly. Im more of a horsepower kinda guy, and i love mini/midsized trucks, then i saw that blue tacoma a while back. Called the x-runner, it can out handle a Nissan 240sx and has a performance tuned suspensionwith an impressive lateral acceleration number of just over .9 g's--that is more than a Nissan 300z. It also has a Six Speed manual Transmission, and DOHC with VVT. The package produces 245HP, and 285 Lb/Ft out of a 4.0 v6!!It has a really nice interior, and im kinda torn between the Xtreme and the Xrunner Right now

My guess is, the s-10 had 245lb/ft torque, that was relativly low and mid range, with the push rods. But what the colorado has with the DOHC and VVT, It can use less torque more efficently, and carry it up through the low and mid range, and even into the high range, far more efficently than the old pushrods could, requiring less consumption of fuel. But seriously if they were so dead set on killing the 4.3, why not toss a trailblazer engine in it? or at least maybe re engineer it so it would be a DOHC VVT 4.3L V6.

Gm Needs to get their heads outta their asses

[Maximus]

No no no we don't need a pushrodless 4.3.They should have done the same thing they done to the 3.8 engine.Update it on the generationIII engine platform.It would have been a awesome replacement.It makes 200hp/225tq.That is just slightly under the 4.3's tq but more hp.Just imagine what kind of power a genIII 4.3 could make.Look at the power curve of the gen 3 and 4 V8 engines.It is even all across the rpm range and it still delivers great high rpm power.But it never will happen since the I4 and I5 is were GM is focusing their attention.Atleast until the Colorado tanks and they rethink their very big mistake to use only those two engines.I can only hope.

[Maxx]

Back to the Colorado. Hahn Racecraft is currently designing a turbo for the mid size box. I found this out in the Truckin' mag. It is a 1 of 101 new products of SEMA.
Check here for updates, its currently not listed but you could call them.
http://www.hahnracecraft.com


Update:
http://www.hahnracecraft.com/ProjectVehicles/Colorado%20canyon.htm

[JROD©™®]

someone posted this a long time ago in the colorado section i think...

turbo for the 3.5L (http://www.sicgmtrucks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=26775#post26775&conly=)

but for all updates and progress reports i go to coloradofans.com turbo topic (http://www.coloradofans.com/viewtopic.php?t=8746&start=1050)

i would definitely buy a colorado xtreme crew cab just for this...a 390hp "goin downtown clubbin" hauler...**** ya...

[inprogress10]

holy resurrected thread batman!

[T Man]

Wow, I forgot I posted this. Glad I didnt sell the trucks though, the old burban is still a lady killa!!

[Maxx]

Well i finally took one for a test drive. 3.5L auto LS extreme. Same as my s10 except extreme package on the Colorado. I didn't like the pick up. Probably pretty even for speed compare to the s10.
Zq8 suspension rides almost the same, just felt a little wider. Making it fell tiny bit stiffer in the corners. Then again my s10 is broken in(2001). Overall like the 4.3L better. Couldn't buy it for styling. Cab space feels no bigger then the s10. But i do like the look of them. Seats felt very stiff and uncomfortable. Like stock s10 buckets. Like the 4door extended cab (not quad cab) better then the 3door s10, but the forward facing seats make it very small for passengers. Rather just have none or like the sideway seat in the s10.
So im gonna keep my s10 wishing it had 4th door and no seats, and wait for a forced induction or ls2 version of the Colorado SS.
Untill then mod the **** out of my S10.

[lowriderbowtie]

i also test drove one not long ago. 2005 Colorado Zq8, quad cab, 3.5/auto.
i liked it..but then again, pretty much anything that is on the road is nicer than my truck, hahaha. but for $32,000..i dont think so!!

[white00s10]

Just looked at/ test drove the new X runner. 245hp-275Ft/lb with a six speed manul transmission. I really liked it. Looks/feels/drives alot better than the colorado xtreme, and you can get it with the optional TRD supercharger package. All for 23K. Im hoping GM will come out with something good, and fast

[Maximus]

The X runner is the better all around truck too.I used to have Tacoma very strong truck and very well built.