View Full Version : who else has ordered a wynjammer??
I did last week just curious, And what does everyone think about them over all
Nick
Dude, you should have just asked "does everyone like oxygen?"
You wont get one bad comment around here about the wynnjammer
Well i.m new to this site, I asked that over on s10forum and just about got boo off stage. lol
Nick
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-01-05, 08:31 PM
*Grins*
Do I really need to answer?
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-01-05, 08:32 PM
Xtreme Canuck ordered one -- haven't seen him on in a while.
I think Leadfoot either already did, or is about to, order one.
Big Louie has one (the first on the boards, I think).
I have no complaints so far.
OBI WAN
03-01-05, 08:35 PM
They dont have one!
They cant make up there minds!
ATI was #1, now its dirt, Powerdyne was the #1 ****load and now is pretty decent.
Oh you could get a bad opinion or post here about one, but first it takes a reason! We dont stop that from happening, its not our style. If anything is found to possibly be wrong you DO have that option! The only way that wont happen is if SuperchargedZQ-8 which is in charge of all that ends up acting like the modators running the SC parts of the other sites!
Wynjammers suck
Only because I can't afford one. . . .
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-01-05, 09:26 PM
Oh you could get a bad opinion or post here about one, but first it takes a reason! We dont stop that from happening, its not our style. If anything is found to possibly be wrong you DO have that option! The only way that wont happen is if SuperchargedZQ-8 which is in charge of all that ends up acting like the modators running the SC parts of the other sites!
If get it and don't like, that is your right. Here, unlike a couple of the other boards, you're entitled to your opinion. If you don't like it, say why -- plain and simple -- no one will stop you.
The biggest problem is that people that don't OWN products like to see fit to offer their opinions about them based on speculation. That will NOT be tolerated. If a person doesn't own the product and has no experience with it, then their opinion means nothing. I've owned JBA headers and an SLP y-pipe -- I didn't like them all that much, so I sold them and bought the Edelbrocks. Therefore I have justification to comment about both type. I've owned a Powerdyne and a Wynjammer, and have helped install and tweak a Vortech on a friend's truck, so I've got experience with all three -- and therefore I have justification to comment on them. The same goes for the Airaid II and the K&N FIPKII kits. And a number of other parts.
The biggest problem on S10F and SSF is that people that have no business commenting end up taking over entire threads just to argue and mudsling. Which is why I'm DONE with both of them. I refuse to post or even visit either of them -- neither has anything to offer me.
But, to keep this thread on track: I am happy with my kit. It looks clean, simple, and fairly stock. It runs cool and seems to provide more power than the Powerdyne. And, this is not a complaint, it's LOUD! Overall, I like it a lot. Now I need to see about getting the fuel system augmented enough to run 1-2 more psi (that's all I'm concerned with running -- 7, maybe 8, psi -- then I'm done). If I can get a Kevlar drive belt for it, then I'll be as happy as a pig in **** (sturdier belt).
Whats wrong with 6psi?? If you were runnin the 9lbs pulley on the dyne , and now you are runnin 6 with the jammer , and the jammer pulls harder then why change a perfectly good set up?? Also when you were out test drivin was it loud enough where people around you were lookin at your truck?? I want mine to be herd from across the parkin lot.lol Al better hurry up and send the dam thing.lol Is the noise bearable in the truck?? I dodnt want it to be obnoxious
Nick
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-01-05, 11:50 PM
Whats wrong with 6psi?? If you were runnin the 9lbs pulley on the dyne , and now you are runnin 6 with the jammer , and the jammer pulls harder then why change a perfectly good set up?? Also when you were out test drivin was it loud enough where people around you were lookin at your truck?? I want mine to be herd from across the parkin lot.lol Al better hurry up and send the dam thing.lol Is the noise bearable in the truck?? I dodnt want it to be obnoxious
Nick
I've based a lot of what I've done around having 7 psi. There is nothing at all wrong with 6 psi -- hell, it's better than the "9 psi" I had with the Powerdyne! Yes, the setup is great -- but I have a target number I'm looking to hit (275 rwhp -- 300 would be nice, but it's unrealistic), or as close to it as possible. Why? It's a goal -- plain and simple. I doubt that I am there yet -- I'm going to try to schedule a dyno run for next week or the week after, depending on how my progress with my current projects goes (still working up to getting the suspension finished and then the gears -- been sick as a dog, and even though my garage is heated, I don't want to push my luck). I'll be honest, if it weren't for that particular goal that I set, I'd leave it at 6 psi in a heart beat. But because I am the way I am, I MUST get to my target rwhp number. I'll admit, I'm impressed at what 6 psi out of this blower is like. But, for the reasons I listed in the "Wynjammer Installation" thread, the kit is much more efficient, so it produces the same hp as the other kits at higher psi (65-70 rwhp @ 6 vs. 65-70 rwhp @ 7 psi vs. 70-75 rwhp @ 8 psi). The numbers speak for themselves.
I have a couple friends that work at Autozone -- I pulled into the lot to pick up a few things. Now, with how I am about my truck, I park as FAR away from other cars as possible (I'd hate to need to kill someone because they were stupid and dented it) -- they were by the door talking and HEARD it pull in (loud exhaust, blower and all). That was the first time they had heard the Jammer -- they were used to hearing the Powerdyne and this threw them off. Yes, you can most definitely hear it from about 20-30 feet away. To give you an idea, my house is about 53 feet long. The garage is on one end (lower storey) and the master bedroom is on the other end (upper storey). The first time I fired it up with the Jammer in place, my wife was in the bedroom (and it was obviously in the garage) and heard it -- other end of the house through a closed door. It's pretty loud. You've seen that video clip I took? The camera is sitting about 5 feet away.
Inside the truck, you can still hear it. With the windows up it isn't too bad -- and with the stereo up (25 WRMS out of my Pioneer) halfway I can't hear it. It gets monotonous if the stereo is off and you maintain a constant rpm (such as freeway speeds), but I'm a blower fanatic, so it's like music to my ears. I'd say it is definitely bearable, but I'm not really a good judge for that -- I like the blower noise! I put a new stereo in the truck just before I installed the Wynjammer, and haven't listened to it for more than 4 songs because I want to hear the blower.
I won't lie to you (contrary to what s10rz350 might think): it's NOT quiet, not by a long shot -- but it's not bad.
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-01-05, 11:54 PM
Wynjammers suck
Only because I can't afford one. . . .
LMFAO!
Well I want it to be herd, but when I go on along cruise I dont want it to be in the way. Thanks for the info Tristen
Nick
As for affording a s/c it was either, the dyne or the jammer, Im not to keen on performance, but I reaserched all my options and went for the jammer. Its really hard to find anyone else on the net who has one, to see how they really like it, and how thiers is holding up.
On the upside hopefully my progammer was sent to Al today so that I can get this thing soon, Im gettin the itch
How well do you like the programmer Tristen??? I have never herd of the company who make it iether, streetand electronics of somthin
Nick
OBI WAN
03-02-05, 06:06 PM
http://www.streetandperformanceelectronics.com/lead.htm
OBI WAN
03-02-05, 06:08 PM
Why there programmers are never on there site??? But they make them for all vehicles!
I forgot to ask you jedi- Does the kit come with the bypass valve??
nick
OBI WAN
03-02-05, 06:20 PM
You do not need a bypass valve until over 7 PSI is achieved!
are you sure?? Because at closed throttle or deceleration there is going to be pressure in the throttle body. This does not make sense to me.
OBI WAN
03-02-05, 08:11 PM
Bypass valves were originally made for postive displacement units to allow them to idle properlly without surging. Also positive displacement units make a constant amoung of boost pressure and during hard throttle outs with the plate closed it creates a drag on the rotors etc (parasetic loss). Even then some people dont run them at 5PSI or under because its really not enough of a force that it causes damage, just a little idle flutter. S/C's on the other hand never push all the air throw them to begin with. I mean without being rude its just a hairdyer and if you plugged the end off leaving a small opening like a IAC port, it merely would blow back throw itself and not try to forve air it doesnt need. Now I can here some other people, WHOOO WTF are you saying, you nuts, well if you run a S/C that has and independant belt drive seperate from the accessory drive and the belt blows, can you still drive it home? The answer is yes, it,ll pull all the air needed around the impeller because is not a tight compressing area, rather fairly wide open. At 7 PSI the pressure and amount of air moving now begins to get to a point that its too much with a impeller trying to continue its force of air against the little opening of the IAC, but its 100% you have to have one at that point. Turbos you would do to the tremendous high speed of the impeller which you would risk impeller stall, plus the fact it could load the motor with a tremendous amout of exhaust gases which would stall any ignition of what did enter.
xtreme canuck
03-02-05, 08:23 PM
i have had good luck with my s/c as well. a few minor problems during install ( one mounting bolt was too long and had to be cut about 3/8 of an inch shorter) . but overall an easy install and what a sweet sound. as it is winter here and i obviously store my truck, it has been hard to get any seat time ... but i have taken it out a few times on a cool , clear night with clean roads and it is definitly hard to put it away! you have to be careful even in second gear not to break lose. i have a buddy that i sold my hypertech unit to and did some hard throttle take off and some WOT runs and then we got out my truck and tried the same runs and you wouldn't think they were part of the same family! as far as speed goes it did improve 1 & 2 but where i really noticed it was in 3rd & 4th(my truck is standard)when that boost starts really kickin' in around 3500 rpm and on, the money will all be worth it!
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-02-05, 08:34 PM
As for affording a s/c it was either, the dyne or the jammer, Im not to keen on performance, but I reaserched all my options and went for the jammer. Its really hard to find anyone else on the net who has one, to see how they really like it, and how thiers is holding up.
On the upside hopefully my progammer was sent to Al today so that I can get this thing soon, Im gettin the itch
How well do you like the programmer Tristen??? I have never herd of the company who make it iether, streetand electronics of somthin
Nick
The programmer is about the same as the Hypertech -- except is has the tuning for the S/C included. Other than that, it's about the same. How do I like it? I'm not doing cartwheels or anything, but it's a nice addition. Part of the power this kit provides is due to that programmer -- having the correct tune is worth a LOT. So, even without the S/C I would give the programmer a thumbs up.
well thats good to hear, Hey extreme canuke what other mods do you have done to your truck??? Give me some more input on what you think about the kit overall.
Nick
Thanks jedi for clearin that up, By the way if I wanted to up my boost does Al sell the bypass??
Nick
It still seems odd to me but if you guys insist
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-03-05, 12:46 AM
Thanks jedi for clearin that up, By the way if I wanted to up my boost does Al sell the bypass??
Nick
Yes, he does sell a bypass. Another reason no bypass is included (or needed) is because this blower is more responsive to throttle input than the others. Since the piping it travels through is much less than either the Vortech or the Powerdyne, there is less air in motion when the throttle is let off. With those two kits, there is about 3 feet (or more) of intake tubing leading to the blower head that still has a certain velocity and that air needs to go somewhere -- so it is bypassed from the intake, slowed down, and channeled back into the intake run -- thus relieving the pressure involved. Since the Wynjammer doesn't have all that extra tubing with air moving through it, a BPV (by-pass valve) is not needed until higher levels (7 psi or so).
But, again, yes, he sells BPVs. You were also asking about the gauge, I think? Here:
http://www.wynjammer.com/ALM1115/Performance_Parts.html
This shows both of them -- the pics are small, but you get the idea.
thanks alot supercharged .
Nick
by the way, do you have anymore vids of your truck???
OBI WAN
03-03-05, 08:17 PM
Just that sick assed one he sent me and he didnt have a real shifter in his hand!!! Dam grossed me out, talk about short shifting!!
I wanna see!!!! I wanna see!!!!! lol
Nick
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-03-05, 09:50 PM
by the way, do you have anymore vids of your truck???
What kind of vids? We just picked up a new digital camera and a new digital camcorder -- the S/C vid was the first vid I've taken so far. Once race season starts, however, I will definitely have more.
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-03-05, 09:50 PM
Just that sick assed one he sent me and he didnt have a real shifter in his hand!!! Dam grossed me out, talk about short shifting!!
You are such a perv, sometimes!
Hurst, all the way!
What kind of vids? We just picked up a new digital camera and a new digital camcorder -- the S/C vid was the first vid I've taken so far. Once race season starts, however, I will definitely have more.
Just any of your truck in general. I have another question reguarding the s/c not having a bypass valve, Is there any restrictions when hittin the gas to prevent any vacuum charge or anything to look out for.
Nick
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-03-05, 09:59 PM
Just any of your truck in general. I have another question reguarding the s/c not having a bypass valve, Is there any restrictions when hittin the gas to prevent any vacuum charge or anything to look out for.
Nick
No other vids yet -- like I said, we just picked up the cameras recently and the weather hasn't really permited much. I've got a couple pics, though. Only one racing pic, however. . . Coming out of turn 3 into a couple gates -- getting back into it for a straightaway.
http://www.sicgmtrucks.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=852&stc=1
I'm not sure I know what you're asking about "restrictions. . ." None that I can think of, but again, I'm not certain what you mean by "prevent any vacuum charge. . ." I just give it gas and go.
well what i ment was Jedi saysif i had an automatic, which i dont, but if you were to floor it and then let off. it would stall the engine or somthing like that, Thats what I mean by restrictioins.
By the way , the truck looks great in that pic.
Nick
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-03-05, 10:30 PM
well what i ment was Jedi saysif i had an automatic, which i dont, but if you were to floor it and then let off. it would stall the engine or somthing like that, Thats what I mean by restrictioins.
By the way , the truck looks great in that pic.
Nick
OK -- 1) thanks, I try to keep it looking good
2) No, with a 5-speed it's not an issue. Even on an automatic, with it being only 6 psi, and considering how the blower is a bit more responsive than others on the market (less tubing, remember), then there is always the possibility of something weird happening, but the PROBABILITY is very low.
You're getting the "pre-install" jitters, that's all. The kit will be fine, your truck will be fine, YOU will be fine.
Take a deep breath and count to 10. . . Feel better?
J/K! LMAO!
Seriously, though. . . With the drive time I've put onto my own truck, if the Jammer was going to stall the engine for any reason, I would have discovered that reason. I've tried HARD (as in balls smacked against the rear window) launches, I've tried moderate launches (just a little smoke), and I've tried Granny launches. I've wound the rpm up to my rev limiter (5400 in the 6BTM and not the stock 5600 -- DON'T let it hit the stock rev-limiter often, it's not good even on a stock truck, but with boost it can get ugly -- besides, power ends around 5000). I've downshifted hard, upshifted too soon (and too late), I've basically given this thing a VERY good workout. I've even "launched" in 2nd gear (can't really call it a launch -- it got moving and that's it). I've tried most of what I can think of to give it a thorough testing and I have not found it lacking.
So, as I said, take a deep breath and count to 10. . . ROTFLMFAO!
ok ok,,,I get the hint!!!!!! lol
Well until this thing shows up at my door its been hard to sleep, so I figure, y not find all the info I can lol
Nick
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-03-05, 10:33 PM
And because I know the question is out there. . . The stock rev limiter cuts fuel to the cylinders -- which can be REALLY bad under boost (if done repeatedly). The rev limiter on the ignition boxes (MSD in particular) cut SPARK, so fuel is still getting fed to the motor. You can bounce off the SPARK-cutting rev limiters all you want (granted, it's still not a good idea), but you want to watch it with the FUEL-cutting limiters.
And, to clarify, it takes a lot to get to that stock limiter -- you're WAY outside the powerband (best shift is between 4800 and 5000 rpm) so as long as you shift when you feel it stop pulling, you're WELL within a safe zone.
a little thing called detonation, lol or holes in your piston
Supercharged-ZQ8
03-03-05, 10:56 PM
a little thing called detonation, lol or holes in your piston
You got it!
xtreme canuck
03-05-05, 11:21 PM
ok ok,,,I get the hint!!!!!! lol
Well until this thing shows up at my door its been hard to sleep, so I figure, y not find all the info I can lol
Nick
from order date to final install date ( after sending back the programmer because comp cams/ proflash sent the wrong one) was 5 weeks so just be patient !
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