Project 2 of 2

[oddball]

This is my 93 4dr blazer project,not exactly sure where this one is going so there will be lots of little thing here and there untill I decide what I am going to do.
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[87wildside]

Pics?

[oddball]

A friend of mine gave me a new alt that he had laying around,said it went to one of his old work trucks all of which had 4.3's in them,I was comparing the 2 alternators,decided they were the same.So, the under drive pulleys that I got from Eric(ws) went on this evening.
Old alt w/ factory pulley,new alt w/ NEW under drive pulley
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/underdrive%20pulleys/2008_0704underdrivepulleys0001.jpg
To hold the fan still w/ the belt off I took a large screwdriver w/ a soft handle and wedged it between the idler pulley and the water pump pulley to get the nuts off the studs for the fan.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/underdrive%20pulleys/2008_0704underdrivepulleys0003.jpg
Old crank pulley-NEW crank pulley,old and NEW tensioners.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/underdrive%20pulleys/2008_0704underdrivepulleys0005.jpg
The 3 outer bolts on the crank pulley came loose pretty easily,the one in the center was a real pita it was very tight.To hold it still I used an 18" pipe wrench to get a hold on the factory pulley,no problem.When I installed the NEW one I used an old sock between the jaws of the pipe wrench and the NEW pulley to keep from chewing the new one up.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/underdrive%20pulleys/2008_0704underdrivepulleys0010.jpg
Last was install the NEW tensioner and belt,looks like I need a shorter belt!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/underdrive%20pulleys/2008_0704underdrivepulleys0011.jpg

[Yeehaw92]

nice! i plan on this mod myself

[ShowNgo4fun]

Nice to see some progress bud. Keep it up.

[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

I want underdrives....

[87wildside]

You should have bought them then. Those are the one I bought from Jason sometime ago. They have been all over the Planet now.

[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

Screw it.. i'm getting the steer colulm... i hope...

[oddball]

I just finished getting those yota E fans stuffed in the blazer,actually was'nt that bad,VERY tight though,had to put the second one in from the bottom.A bit of presidential engineering,a 5" Dewalt grinder w/ a 1/16 Metabo cutting blade,and of course....zip ties,for the temp mounting till I can find some thin material to work with.
The fans are from a 9x toyota Camry
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Parts/2008_0702Parts0002.jpg
I took the top half of the shroud and cut it so that all that was left was the top part of the rad mount and about 1/2" sticking out past the rad so that there was something to attach to,I flipped the fans around so that the narrowest sides of the shrouds were together,which put them in the middle of the rad,then trimmed the outside edges to fit,notched out on the driver side for the top rad house and at the bottom for the frame and rad mount,sorry before/after trimming pics.Drilled holes for temp mounting to try and figure out how to mount them so it looks less presidential!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Efans/2009_0304Efans0001.jpg
notch around rad hose.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Efans/2009_0304Efans0002.jpg
Need to get shorter studs or bolts for w/p pulley

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Efans/2009_0304Efans0004.jpg
Yes it is dusty,just part of my life!lol

[oddball]

You should have bought them then. Those are the one I bought from Jason sometime ago. They have been all over the Planet now.They're right at home now,Thanks Eric!

[87wildside]

Looks good.

LOL at "presidential engineering"

[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

LOL at "presidential engineering"

you should hear him on the phone, Eric....

Looks good ricky...

[87wildside]

Does he talk about presidents and watermelons like I do? :)

[oddball]

you should hear him on the phone, Eric....

Looks good ricky...Aww come on Lee,you make it sound like I have something against the presidential race.:cool:

[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

NO!!

btw, if you put a crazy engine in the blazer, I call dibs on the underdrives...

[oddball]

I have got to use the search button and figure out how to make them work with the thermostat,not real sharp on wiring.

[oddball]

NO!!

btw, if you put a crazy engine in the blazer, I call dibs on the underdrives...still debating the tbi 305 swap,if so they are yours.

[87wildside]

They will work on a TBI 305 as well :)

[oddball]

They will work on a TBI 305 as well :)Sorry Lee!

[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

Damn you Eric!!

[oddball]

Damn you Eric!!Dam bro,I feel for ya.....just can't reach ya!lol
















you know i'm bs'n ya!

[oddball]

I've been gathering parts up for a while so I took the time today to put some of them in.I pulled the upper plenum off to get to the distributor and check on my spider.I installed the MSD pro billet dizzy,I cranked it over until the rotor was pointing at the firewall before removing it to make it easy to drop back in w/ a new cap and rotor .
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/msd/DSCF0005.jpg
While I had the upper plenum off I installed the EGR restrictor plate.
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Had minor clearance problems,but nothing a large file couldn't fix.I used a file because I didn't want a lot of aluminum floating around w/ the intake open,about 10 min w/ A Nicholson Pipeliner and it fit nicely.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/msd/DSCF0010.jpg
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New plugs,AC Delco platinum's,I usually use Bosch but thought I would try the Delco's.There was nothing wrong w/ the Bosch plat +2's that I took out.Anybody want'em?lol.BTW.After removeing the cruise control and dropping the steering shaft,about 15 min work,this was the easiest spark plug change I ever did.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/msd/DSCF0018.jpg
Old plugs.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/msd/DSCF0014.jpg
I just finished building/installing the wires.The MSD wires come w/ their own strip gauge which you use a single edge razor blade with and the crimper is built into it.it says to use a vise on the crimper but I made do with a bar clamp,kind of a pita but works well.Have enough stuff left over to probably build a set of wires for 4cyl.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/msd/DSCF0017.jpg
CAI is Spectre,not quite finished yet.Thinking about roughing it up and painting it blue,not crazy about the shiny stuff,opinions?Since I no longer have an air cleaner box I got one of those little breathers to go on the driver side,could not find one that would just push in so I had to do a bit of presidential engineering.You can just see it behind the oil filler.
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Going to try and get the Msd 6a box in tomorrow.Should do laundry though.

['94 Big Blaze]

sweet man, im looking at getting msd 8.5 wires and a 6al box,coil, and cap and rotor for my 3.4

[oddball]

sweet man, im looking at getting msd 8.5 wires and a 6al box,coil, and cap and rotor for my 3.490$ a set and I probably got 40$ worth of left overs!

[spideyjected]

dibbs on the 4.3 if you V8??? The wires make it look really racy Ricky, nice!

[oddball]

dibbs on the 4.3 if you V8??? The wires make it look really racy Ricky, nice!Thanks Eric,still alot to do,still aint figured out why it quit running.The more it messes w/ me the closer it is to getting a 305!

[spideyjected]

Start with the fuel pump relay.

[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

OOOO pretty... red....

[oddball]

OOOO pretty... red....Hey,nice hammer!
Well I replaced the fuel pump relay,still dead.I have fire from the coil to distributor,same from the distributor to the plugs,so I guess it is time for a fuel pump.

[oddball]

Any body have any suggestions as to where to put the 6A box?Pass fender has batt,surge bottle and AC,DS has CAI,cruise and ABS.My engine compartment is full....under the console?Every where i have tried to fit it in looks to presidential!Ideas?

[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

wait till you get the console there, then put it under that....


oh crap, i need to weigh that...

[neo71665]

If you find a good spot in the engine bay tell me, lol.

Under my console is already full of my lighting and siren equipment so I can't even put it there. I was wondering if I put a rubber mat on the bottom of one and mounted it upside down under the battery if it wouldn't work.

[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

If you find a good spot in the engine bay tell me, lol.

Under my console is already full of my lighting and siren equipment so I can't even put it there.

Mount it on top of the hood, kinda like they did tachs in the 60's!

['94 Big Blaze]

i got plenty of room under my hood, come to think of it you can give it to me, i'll let ya know if it works good :D

[neo71665]

I get a posi loc and the rad puke bottle idea I got works out I'll have plenty of room also.

[oddball]

wait till you get the console there, then put it under that....


oh crap, i need to weigh that...Oh Crap.....I asked you to weigh that last week!Think I pm'd ya!

[oddball]

I get a posi loc and the rad puke bottle idea I got works out I'll have plenty of room also.Yeah,I thought about getting a smaller puke bottle,like one of those little add on ones at the parts house.

[oddball]

i got plenty of room under my hood, come to think of it you can give it to me, i'll let ya know if it works good :DUmmmmm.....no.lol

['94 Big Blaze]

hahaha

[neo71665]

Yeah,I thought about getting a smaller puke bottle,like one of those little add on ones at the parts house.


Theres a thread on here with my idea.

[12sws27]

Here's where I put mine. IDK if it'll help you or not though. The ACCEL 300+ is smaller and my truck is a 2nd gen. I removed my cruise control and mounted the box where it was.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/12sws27/98%20Jimmy%20Project/newproject98Jimmy128.jpg?t=1238473406

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/12sws27/98%20Jimmy%20Project/newproject98Jimmy129.jpg?t=1238473593

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/12sws27/98%20Jimmy%20Project/newproject98Jimmy130.jpg?t=1238473627

[oddball]

Here's where I put mine. IDK if it'll help you or not though. The ACCEL 300+ is smaller and my truck is a 2nd gen. I removed my cruise control and mounted the box where it was.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/12sws27/98%20Jimmy%20Project/newproject98Jimmy128.jpg?t=1238473406

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/12sws27/98%20Jimmy%20Project/newproject98Jimmy129.jpg?t=1238473593

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/12sws27/98%20Jimmy%20Project/newproject98Jimmy130.jpg?t=1238473627Good call!I had not even looked over there because I was so intent on putting it on the coil side.That is where my washer is at,it don't work,so that is wasted space....not any more.

[Big Mack Daddy]

good deal if the washer dont work :biggrin:

[oddball]

good deal if the washer dont work :biggrin:That's what they make waterhoses and gas stations for!

[neo71665]

Am I the only person on here that everything still works on their truck? Sad thing is my truck is 22 years old now. I still got AC, cruise, washer, and the rear popper.

[12sws27]

You might be.

[87wildside]

Am I the only person on here that everything still works on their truck? Sad thing is my truck is 22 years old now. I still got AC, cruise, washer, and the rear popper.Yes.

[spideyjected]

My air, washers, and cruise work. but the truck needs a ton of other work

[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

all that suff works, but the Deluxe doesn't have a horn...

[neo71665]

I'll soon have 3 horns, lmao. The factory one, the "air" horn thats on my siren system, and soon a real air horn I got off of a semi. I just got to finish up the last bits of my on board air system and get it hooked up.

[oddball]

My a/c works,my cruise works,I don't have a tailgate popper(I gots screwdriver)I don't have a washer,I have a nice open space,sorta open unless you want to drill in it,with an MSD 6A box in it thanks to Scott!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/msd/DSCF0034.jpg
It wasn't too bad,got 3 of the 4 screws in it,3rd one was a PITA.One 1/2" Dewalt drill,2 1/4" drive ext,one 1/4 drive universal,one 1/4" drive 1/4" socket,one 6" flex screwdriver ext and it went in!
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While performing this masterful feat of presidential engineering I had one of my favorite meals at my favorite eating establishments.
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Before it got dark I took some pics of my back yard and stuff in it.Tulsa winches,Waukasha generator,and lots of junk!
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My work bench,tool shed/parts storage shed!
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[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

Whats your fav eating establishment??

We use the phrase "Presidential engineering" at work on a daily basis

Now, where's the console??

[oddball]

Whats your fav eating establishment??

We use the phrase "Presidential engineering" at work on a daily basis

Now, where's the console??I gave you a pic of my fav meal and eating establishment!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/msd/DSCF0033.jpgGMC Bar and grill!

[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

Reminds me of the BLD redlight pub... i miss that place....

['94 Big Blaze]

i love it man ! hows it all run now ?

[12sws27]

My a/c works,my cruise works,I don't have a tailgate popper(I gots screwdriver)I don't have a washer,I have a nice open space,sorta open unless you want to drill in it,with an MSD 6A box in it thanks to Scott!
My work bench,tool shed/parts storage shed!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/msd/DSCF0039.jpg
Thats what the back of my Jimmy use to look like. Then someone took a liking to my tools and decided they wanted them.

Ign box looks good there. Good job!

[Big Mack Daddy]

maybe you could've gotten the fourth screw in if you had another extension. :biggrin:

[oddball]

maybe you could've gotten the fourth screw in if you had another extension. :biggrin:
Maybe another universal,hmmm.......lol

[oddball]

i love it man ! hows it all run now ?It don't,need a fuel pump!:mad:Gonna drop the tank this evening I think,still gotta wire the 6A box.

[87wildside]

While performing this masterful feat of presidential engineering LOL
I want to play in that yard! I'd have a field day.

[12sws27]

There's only 3 screws holding my box on. Who needs 4? :D

[Big Mack Daddy]

LOL
I want to play in that yard! I'd have a field day.

what, pissing on everything:p

[87wildside]

SOB.

[Big Mack Daddy]

:biggrin:

[Bootlegger's Deluxe]

LOL
I want to play in that yard! I'd have a field day.

I called dibs on the giant winch... you know Papa would use it somehow...

[oddball]

I called dibs on the giant winch... you know Papa would use it somehow...There's enough to go around,look at that pic.....there's 3 of them laying there.

[ShowNgo4fun]

Mmmmmmm....my dime sure could use a winch.:rolleyes:

[oddball]

Well,me and my Canadian friend finally got my gas tank out,what a PITA!Not so much getting it out,but,getting it unhooked.Not looking forward to putting it back in!
First we put it up on pipe stands.I unbolted it,all he had to do was catch it!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0050.jpg
My Canadian friend holding it so I can get it unhooked.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0052.jpg
Canadian friend holding tank!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0054.jpg
Bob(canadian friend)is the only one I can get to help me w/ my projects!

[Hammer Head]

I dig the stands & forklift to get the tank out.. makes me jealous.

[oddball]

I dig the stands & forklift to get the tank out.. makes me jealous.Makes life sooooo much easier!8,000lb forklift,3,800lb blazer=no problem.

[oddball]

Took the pump out of the tank after work,went to O'Rileys and priced a new one,$96.30.Cheaper than I expected.Wiring harness from MSD should be here in a couple of days,Console should be here from Ia. first of next week.

[Big Mack Daddy]

good deal man get that sucka runnin

[oddball]

good deal man get that sucka runninI am curious to see,if there is any noticeable difference in its performance due to the combination of small things I've done.The under drive pulleys,e fans,3.5" cai,complete MSD ignition(coil,dist.,6A,wires)Ac Delco platinum plugs.

[Big Mack Daddy]

should notice at least a little improvement

[oddball]

should notice at least a little improvementI'm a realist.I don't expect a lot,most noticeable should be the 1-2 shift,that'll probably tell me what I want to know.

[csl2006]

easiest way I took my gas tank out when I had my 92 was.....my dad did it lmfao. I was gonna do it but he got bored while I was at work and got it off. He claims it was easy but eh. If I tried driving a forklift under my truck i'd probably ram the forks threw the tail gate knowing my luck...haha j/k

[oddball]

easiest way I took my gas tank out when I had my 92 was.....my dad did it lmfao. I was gonna do it but he got bored while I was at work and got it off. He claims it was easy but eh. If I tried driving a forklift under my truck i'd probably ram the forks threw the tail gate knowing my luck...haha j/kWe got 8' forks,easy to see the tips of them while you are getting ready to lift something.

[Yeehaw92]

i miss using a forklift to change over from mud to street tires.

[oddball]

Well the new fuel pump,screen,and fuel filter are back in wasn't that bad....after removing an extra bolt that held the fuel lines to the frame,which can be removed from the ds rear fenderwell.After putting the three little bolts back in that held the filler neck in place,reconnecting the vent tube to the tank and reconnecting the little rubber line back to the tank and reinstalling the 2 mounts under the tank using the 2 bolts towards the front,removing that one bolt from the fuel line bracket on the frame gives just enough mavement to the fuel lines that you can screw the fuel lines together w/ one hand and w/ the tank sitting on the mount bolted up front lets the back of the tank hang down w/ just enough angle to get both wrenches in there to tighten them up.I'm sure most of you have figured out your own way to do this but this worked good for me.Didn't get a chance to see if it was going to run.No gas,no gas can to get gas,and had been drinking Guinness,She'll still be there tomorrow no need in taking any chances w/ the little pigs!

[oddball]

Well,I went and got gas,poured it in,turned the key it hit about 3 times and that was it.I picked her up and set her back on the ground,checked to see if I had fuel pressure by pushing the little bleeder since I have no fuel pressure gauge.Had gas there.I think they either gave me the wrong fuel pump and I do not have enough fuel pressure for the spider OR the spider that I put in less than a year ago is out again.I can put a little gas in the intake and it will start right up.Any suggestions?That 305 conversion is getting closer.

[spideyjected]

Try priming the pump a few extra times. I think you need to get a pressure gague, it seems a must have item with these engines. Mine would not fire on 56 psi. 58 psi BANG, fires right up. What pump did you buy Ricky?

[oddball]

Try priming the pump a few extra times. I think you need to get a pressure gague, it seems a must have item with these engines. Mine would not fire on 56 psi. 58 psi BANG, fires right up. What pump did you buy Ricky?Here is a pic of the box it came in.The guy at OReilys had 2 of them out there and this is the one he said would work.IDK.Pretty disappointed right now....
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/fuel%20pump/DSCF0059.jpg

[spideyjected]

Well, make sure the battery is good, blah, blah, blah. Get a fuel pressure tester and we'll go from there. I see it's usa made, that's embarassing, hope they gave you wrong part.

Mine was made in Germany.

[12sws27]

Well, make sure the battery is good, blah, blah, blah. Get a fuel pressure tester and we'll go from there. I see it's usa made, that's embarassing, hope they gave you the wrong part.
Yeah but it has imported parts though. So there...:p

[spideyjected]

Hey, have you replaced the fuel pump relay ever? That is pretty important too.

[oddball]

Yeah,just came from the parts house.....wrong pump.....it was the other of the 2 the guy had out there the other day.I kept telling him this was for a cpi,guess he thought I said tpi,IDK....stupid fck,so I had to buy another fuel pump!They are going to take the other one back,and instead of this one being 97$ I got out the door at only 75$.I told him I spent 2 days dropping the tank and putting it back with the wrong pump in it and was not a happy camper.Although this is the first time I ever got the wrong part from them,why did it have to be this one!lol

[spideyjected]

I just tell them it's a 4.3 W. The only place that screws up then is Advance sometimes.

[oddball]

Hey, have you replaced the fuel pump relay ever? That is pretty important too.2 relays side by side on the firewall,didn't know which one it was so I replaced both.

[spideyjected]

Smart man, I did replace mine, but the new one went bad. Therefore I had to replace it again when the truck conked out in the driveway. By the way, not that it matters now, but it's the one closest to the DS fender.

[oddball]

I just tell them it's a 4.3 W. The only place that screws up then is Advance sometimes.I kept telling that retard it was a W and I guess he ain't got a clue!
Hector,I got him trained,I say W,He says ...oh yeah cpi.

[spideyjected]

Well, you are in Texas, there's only one W "dubya" in Texas, right?

[oddball]

Smart man, I did replace mine, but the new one went bad. Therefore I had to replace it again when the truck conked out in the driveway. By the way, not that it matters now, but it's the one closest to the DS fender.I kinda figured it was,because that one looks like it has seen some serious abuse!(the plug).Now I got to do it all over again tomorrow....should be easier!

[oddball]

Well, you are in Texas, there's only one W "dubya" in Texas, right?Everybody is a comedian!lol

[spideyjected]

I was going to tell you to cut a hole in your floor while you had the tank out. But I figured, NAH, his'll work right the first time. Sorry I didn't suggest it to you buddy.

[oddball]

I was going to tell you to cut a hole in your floor while you had the tank out. But I figured, NAH, his'll work right the first time. Sorry I didn't suggest it to you buddy.I almost did,I think I am this time After I get the tank out and exchange the pumps.I told one of the guys that if I ever had to do it again I was cutting a hole in the floor!going to change the carpet any ways,just sooner than planned i guess.Everything about this blazer is happening sooner than planned,she will NOT be put off,says she ain't playin second to a GMC!

[spideyjected]

Makes it about a 15 minute job.

[oddball]

Makes it about a 15 minute job.I'm sold!

[spideyjected]

Just make sure the windows are all open, holy crow the fumes build quickly.

[Hammer Head]

Hope everything works out this time.

[oddball]

Hope everything works out this time.That makes 2 of us!lol.Think I could get an aftermarket pump and regulator to make enough pressure?

[12sws27]

You can put an inline pump on it. I've seen threads where guys have. What's all involved and where those threads are I can't remember. There's also the 255 walbro mod. IDK if that is only for the newer pumps or not though.

[spideyjected]

according to Lee you could. But he sold me on the Bosch, it has a lifetime warranty.

[spideyjected]

You can't even hear the Bosch pump run it's so quiet.

[Hammer Head]

Yes, you can.

[oddball]

Yes, you can.Inline pump?

[oddball]

Things went well today.Bob and I went out to the pad and picked up the blazer and carried her over to the back bay of the shop so that I could do surgery on her.I decided to take Eric's('lanche) advice,and cut a hole to work on the fuel pump.I did this with the tank still under there.
Something to cover the tank with while I cut on the floor.
Just enough room to slide that between the lines and the floor.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0068.jpg
Next is laying out the cut lines for the hole,which I made 12"X16".The Guinness is so that if you screw up you have an excuse!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0066.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0070.jpg
I cut the hole with a grinder with an .045x5" cutting wheel.If you use these make sure you wear your safety glass AND a face shield and DO NOT crowd those blades to hard they will shatter.Take your time and let them do the work.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0071-1.jpg

I framed the hole in with 1/8X 1"flat bar.I welded these in with mig and.035 wire,which is kinda big for this application.I just put a lot of spot welds on each end and welded all I could going across between the ridges,then cleaned them up with a Tiger disc.

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0079.jpg
The door has to have a little over an inch cut off each end of the brace on the on the underside to clear the frame it sits on(flat bar),I also ground a little extra off the ridges to give a little extra room for the welds.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0083.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0082.jpg
I drilled holes in the valleys of the door to make it easier to drive the self drilling screws to hold it down.Then used some tape to seal the seams with.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0084.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/gas%20tank/DSCF0085.jpg

[Big Mack Daddy]

noice

[spideyjected]

Looks nice. Mine looks like crap, but it still works.

[oddball]

Looks nice. Mine looks like crap, but it still works.Don't matter once the carpet goes down!lol

[oddball]

Well,today was a pretty good day.
1)Went to parole....still here....that's a good thing!
2)Got new used console from Lee,AND dead hookers!
3)Got off work at 1700.1715 started pulling fuel pump.1730 at O'Reily's exchanging one pump and returning another....no problems,with an apology!
4)1830 fuel pump back in,Blazer running.With a pit stop at McD's for supper!
Looks GOOD!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/DSCF0088.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/DSCF0089.jpg
Ok,enough of the warm fuzzy crap,on to the plain ole crap Anyone tell me what is causing this.IAC ?Sorry about the language,forgot that camera has sound on it!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/sound%20clip/th_DSCF0086.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/sound%20clip/?action=view&current=DSCF0086.flv)

[12sws27]

Well,today was a pretty good day.
1)Went to parole....still here....that's a good thing!
2)Got new used console from Lee,AND dead hookers!
3)Got off work at 1700.1715 started pulling fuel pump.1730 at O'Reily's exchanging one pump and returning another....no problems,with an apology!
4)1830 fuel pump back in,Blazer running.With a pit stop at McD's for supper!
Looks GOOD!


Ok,enough of the warm fuzzy crap,on to the plain ole crap Anyone tell me what is causing this.IAC ?

That or a vaccum leak.

[Yeehaw92]

my cpi even pumping tons of fuel in never did that. i wish i lived in texas i would help diagnose.


P.S. wtf is goin on with it?

[oddball]

my cpi even pumping tons of fuel in never did that. i wish i lived in texas i would help diagnose.


P.S. wtf is goin on with it?IDK.Idle air control motor or as Scott suggested,a serious vacume leak.

[Hammer Head]

Only surges at idle?

[oddball]

Only surges at idle?Yep.Suggestions?

[Hammer Head]

I'd guess the IAC. But double check for a vacuum leak somewhere.

[oddball]

I'd guess the IAC. But double check for a vacuum leak somewhere.Yeah I'm going to check it over better tomorrow.Going to re check the bolts in the plenum and make sure I' didn't skip any when I put it back on after installing the new dizzy.

[ShowNgo4fun]

Sounds like a vaccum line...maybe a bad throttle pos. sensor? Got me! Maybe your blinker relay isnt workin right! yeah, thats it! Check you blinkers.

[oddball]

Sounds like a vaccum line...maybe a bad throttle pos. sensor? Got me! Maybe your blinker relay isnt workin right! yeah, thats it! Check you blinkers.Well I checked that,and the blinker fluid, all was good.Maybe the headlight valves?

[ShowNgo4fun]

I am out of options. Time for a beer and the idea will come to you! lol.

[oddball]

I am out of options. Time for a beer and the idea will come to you! lol.I'm sure it is one of the 2.I my have left the one off the back of the plenum don't remember.I'm just glad it's running again!I was getting kind of worried.

[ShowNgo4fun]

Congrats on that. At least you know you are close.Now its just minor troubleshooting.

[oddball]

Congrats on that. At least you know you are close.Now its just minor troubleshooting.Thanks,3 fuel pumps later!Figure this out and move on to other things.Time for bed.Later

[Big Mack Daddy]

as stated in other threads, sleep is not allowed

[spideyjected]

mine does that, but only once in a while, not rapidly like that. hmmm. I have another IAC here, I'll put it in today some time and let you know what if anything it changes.

[spideyjected]

I changed the IAC, it idled fine for about 15 minutes, then I shut it off. I'd try the IAC.

[oddball]

I changed the IAC, it idled fine for about 15 minutes, then I shut it off. I'd try the IAC.I was afraid of that!113$

[spideyjected]

I have 2, my other one works better than yours. If you want I can ship you my other one. That way you can see if it makes a difference. Otherwise I bet John has one, maybe he'll sell you one.

[oddball]

I have 2, my other one works better than yours. If you want I can ship you my other one. That way you can see if it makes a difference. Otherwise I bet John has one, maybe he'll sell you one.Let me see if john has one he'll sell me,if not I'll get back to ta Eric.Thanks

[Jongo88]

I'll look tomorrow and you pay to ship and it's yours. If I don't have one I'll get you one from the bone yard next week. I like going to the bone yard so it's no problem...

[Jongo88]

If you need anything else let me know. I don't need these first gen parts any more.... Come get them all....

[oddball]

If you need anything else let me know. I don't need these first gen parts any more.... Come get them all....Thanks John,let me know on the shipping.

[12sws27]

A Delphi IAC (which is the OE part) is $63.79 at Rockauto.com.

If you use this code, F3DF7C41D468. You get a 5% discount.

I bumped the thread about this deal rockauto was giving us. I've already bought a few things from them and I like doing business with them. I can't find cheaper parts anywhere. Even when you add in shipping and leave out the 5% discount they're still cheaper.

[87wildside]

I've already bought a few things from them and I like doing business with them. I can't find cheaper parts anywhere. Even when you add in shipping and leave out the 5% discount they're still cheaper.X2 Scott. They are better then the parts stores even with shipping even without the discount.

[12sws27]

X2 Scott. They are better then the parts stores even with shipping even without the discount.
I love these people! Search rock auto and see how many times I've mentioned there name since the thread about the discounts was posted. They should pay me for advertising. :D

[87wildside]

I love these people! Search rock auto and see how many times I've mentioned there name since the thread about the discounts was posted. They should pay me for advertising. :DHell, it was my idea to hook the site up...WTF, where's my pay check? :yuck_125:

[spideyjected]

hey, I need a coil, guess Rock Auto will get my money, Thanks Eric!!!!

[oddball]

hey, I need a coil, guess Rock Auto will get my money, Thanks Eric!!!!I got a spare MSD blaster over at my shipping addy,going over there this weekend.Same deal?

[spideyjected]

I got a spare MSD blaster over at my shipping addy,going over there this weekend.Same deal?

Works for me:D.

[87wildside]

Hell, it was my idea to hook the site up...WTF, where's my pay check? :yuck_125:Joker gets one too for approving it :)

I will now exit your thread Rick :D

[oddball]

Joker gets one too for approving it :)

I will now exit your thread Rick :DUNLIKE some people I don't care if my thread gets hijacked occasionally,I'll help ya!

[oddball]

Most everyone agrees that I need an IAC valve.A question.With all the upgrades on my ignition,MSD coil,MSD super conductor wires,and the MSD pro billet dizzy,without the 6A box being hooked up would this have any bearing on the problem I am having? Plus the egr restrictor. I ask because the box the wires came in said a box should be used with those wires,Didn't say it was absolutely nessessary.Could this be part of the problem or THE problem?

[Hammer Head]

I don't feel that'd cause the loping you're getting at idle.

[Danzcameo]

Only made it 9 pages in to your thread but I got's to sleep-
continued tomorrow! Hope it run's fine later in the thread!:D
nap time.

[oddball]

I don't feel that'd cause the loping you're getting at idle.I really don't either,I'm pretty sure that it is the iac,as do most every one else,sounded kinda stupid,thought I would ask anyhow.lol

[Hammer Head]

It's not a stupid question.. I've had some wierd things happen to me like that.

[oddball]

Well,me and Bob gonna go do the front brakes and re pack the bearings.I'm sure everyone here has done brakes,I'll take pics any how though.

[oddball]

Well,the brakes are done.New rotors,bearings and grease seals,even greased the front end since it was up in the air.
With the exception of tools,here is pretty much everything needed to do your front brakes.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/DSCF0107.jpg
First me and Bob picked her up high enough I could sit in a chair to work on her.Bob is my best friend!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/DSCF0130.jpg
The pads were down to the squealers,ds inside pad was down to the rivits,that rotor was trash(I have had to use worse tho!lol)plus the pad was worn at an angle as if the caliper had gotten stuck.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/DSCF0127.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/DSCF0128.jpg
This is the best way I know of to push the piston back in.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/DSCF0111.jpg
Old pads compared to the new Bendix Titanium metallic pads.Thanks Scotty!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/DSCF0113.jpg
Packed and installed new bearings and grease seal.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/DSCF0116.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/DSCF0122.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/DSCF0123.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/DSCF0125.jpg
The new bearings are national and the old ones were timken.I was surprised to see a plastic cage on the timken bearings.Still has oe balljoints at 157k.No slop in the front end at all.

[oddball]

Well gotta make sure they work.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/th_DSCF0131.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/front%20brakes/?action=view&current=DSCF0131.flv)

[12sws27]

LMAO! That's exactly how I test the too! LOL!

[spideyjected]

So the brakes work good! the engine has power! Did the idle issue ever get resolved?

[ShowNgo4fun]

I couldnt see anything through all the smoke... What did you do? lol.

[oddball]

So the brakes work good! the engine has power! Did the idle issue ever get resolved?Nope,not resolved yet,gonna order a new iac valve next week.

[Big Mack Daddy]

my truck dont idle right but i drive it every day, but mine idles too low

[oddball]

Well not much progress as yall can see,sitting on my money to buy a set of headers and a helmet.I'm in no hurry,long as it is ready to drive when winter gets here.Here is a question.If I buy this intake to go with the Holley 670 projection set up that I have,will it fit in place of my cpi intake?http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=EDL-3713&N=700+115&autoview=sku
Wouldn't I be able to get away from the stock Computer since the Holley has it's own fuel controller(s)?One last thing.IF it does fit,and works well,wouldn't this be a pretty good setup to run a jammer on?Just kickin some ideas around.BBC?lol

[spideyjected]

Rick, you want that IAC yet? I could get it in the mail monday.

[oddball]

Rick, you want that IAC yet? I could get it in the mail monday.WOW! I forgot all about you having one!Got my head up my azz!lol.Yes,I would really appreciate it!Need money for shipping?

[spideyjected]

WOW! I forgot all about you having one!Got my head up my azz!lol.Yes,I would really appreciate it!Need money for shipping?
Nah, shipping shouldn't be much. I got it from John, when he sent me a rim. I'll put it in my car tonight so I remember it Monday. IDK if it's perfect, but at least if it runs differently, you'll know that's the part that's bad. It worked on my truck.

[oddball]

Nah, shipping shouldn't be much. I got it from John, when he sent me a rim. I'll put it in my car tonight so I remember it Monday. IDK if it's perfect, but at least if it runs differently, you'll know that's the part that's bad. It worked on my truck.If it worked for you thats good enough for me!Thanks again!

[oddball]

Well the iac came in from Mn. yesterday,Thanks Eric(lanche)!Now if it will quit raining long enough for me to go get it!
Found these on Craigslist.
http://easttexas.craigslist.org/pts/1116677324.html

[Jongo88]

They are about a 2 min change...

[oddball]

They are about a 2 min change...I took mine out and cleaned it,just on the off chance it would help.....it didn't!lol

[12sws27]

Well the iac came in from Mn. yesterday,Thanks Eric(lanche)!Now if it will quit raining long enough for me to go get it!
Found these on Craigslist.
http://easttexas.craigslist.org/pts/1116677324.html
Those rims are actually 17 x 8.5" in the front and 18 x 9.5" in the rear. I like them. There the ones I want to get. I like the size and weight of them mainly though. I've seen them go for less on eBay. One set I missed went for $150ish shipped. In the past week I've seen 2 sets go for less than $200 shipped.

[oddball]

Those rims are actually 17 x 8.5" in the front and 18 x 9.5" in the rear. I like them. There the ones I want to get. I like the size and weight of them mainly though. I've seen them go for less on eBay. One set I missed went for $150ish shipped. In the past week I've seen 2 sets go for less than $200 shipped.Really!I gota start watchin e bay more.I thought that was pretty good,good thing I asked first!

[12sws27]

Really!I gota start watchin e bay more.I thought that was pretty good,good thing I asked first!
They pop up often. Apparently the Vette guys don't like the looks of them. You can get a real good deal on the as long as you're patient and watch the shipping costs. Make sure you take into the count the cost for spacers. You will need to run spacers with those wheels on a 2wd. 2.25" minimum I've heard with the 2nd gens. Probably the same with a 1st gens. I'm not sure.

[TreasonAgainstCaesar]

the craigs list post expired. what was it?

[12sws27]

the craigs list post expired. what was it?
C5 Vette wheels (aka wagon wheels)

[oddball]

C5 Vette wheels (aka wagon wheels)Well I got a set of C5's today 17x8.5 and 18x9.5,like you said.268$ shipped.From what I have read I will need 2" spacers for the front and 2.25-2.5" spacers in the rear,again,like you said.I also used the search button and this seems to be pretty much what everyone is using.may take a while to get them put on since now I got to get the spacers and tires for them.Which first,tires or spacers?

[Big Mack Daddy]

tires will prob cost more so it really depends the shape you are in right now financially

[oddball]

tires will prob cost more so it really depends the shape you are in right now financiallyNo big hurry,may have to buy them one at a time!Sux,sometimes it jus bee's that way tho!

[12sws27]

I would say maybe tires first... That way you can get the size you like, test fit the wheels w/tiers mounted and know exactly what size spacer you want to run. I think that's what I'd do.

[oddball]

I would say maybe tires first... That way you can get the size you like, test fit the wheels w/tiers mounted and know exactly what size spacer you want to run. I think that's what I'd do.I was kinda thinking that way too.Lee is going to give me some advice on the size tires to run so my speedo stays pretty close to correct.

[12sws27]

Tires are the fun part....some of the 18" tires are expensive!

[12sws27]

Maybe this will help?
http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm

[oddball]

Maybe this will help?
http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htmBookmarked!Going to go look and see what the vette's usually run,then to ebay or tire rack.

[oddball]

Well I finally got around to ordering the IAC from RockAuto.....66.35$ shipped!Thanks for the advice on that one guys.Should have a pretty large load of parts to bring home this weekend.The headers are already in(came in today),thanks Jason,the wheels I got off ebay should be in tomorrow,got a couple off different tbi intakes,don't know which is the better of the 2,I'll get pics.one of the manifold is a one piece aluminum the other is a 2 piece,lower half is aluminum the upper is plastic,an engine stand and a spare 4.3.I am running out of oil pressure,my 4.3 is pretty loose.When I did the under drive pulleys the crank would turn about a 1/4 turn before any of the internals would move!Looking for bbc.

[oddball]

Hope everyone had a good long weekend.I did.Went out and gathered parts up and visited BOTH of my friends!lol.
1)17X8.5,18X9.5 c5 Corvette wheels
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Wheels/DSCF0156.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Wheels/DSCF0158.jpg
This is the only thing I could find wrong with these wheels.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Wheels/DSCF0157.jpg
2)Headers,gaskets,bolts,and a set of 2.5* shims from Chicago,thanks Jason!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Wheels/DSCF0155.jpg
3)Instrument cluster from a '98 p/u,doner wiring harness available.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Wheels/DSCF0154.jpg
4)Assorted intakes.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Wheels/DSCF0153.jpg
5)4.3 from same '98 p/u approx. 80k on engine,20k on fresh heads,I did the top end on it.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Wheels/DSCF0151.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Wheels/DSCF0152.jpg
Complete wiring harness for the '98 is there all I have to do is take it out.There is also a complete harness for a n/a 92 4.3.The factory tbi intake on the right is the one I am thinking about using with the '92 wiring harness and the projection setup.that way I can eliminate the factory computer and quite a bit of other electronic crap under the hood.Opinions,comments,advice.Yes,no,maybe,no fvkin way?Is the injection sys on the engine what was called scpi?

[12sws27]

Yeah, thats a CSFI. That all I got.

Rims look kick ass! Looking forward to seeing them on.

[Danzcameo]

Nice Wheel's Rick! like the headers too.

[oddball]

Thanks Dan!I opened the boxes and saidHOLY SH!T will those really go in there!

[Hammer Head]

Quit thankin' me so much already.. let's make a deal on that pro-jection controller you got!! (BTW, I'm glad you're happy.. that stuff is in better hands, I'm sure!).

[Bone Crusher]

Awesome .....Now get those Headers on LOL

[oddball]

Quit thankin' me so much already.. let's make a deal on that pro-jection controller you got!! (BTW, I'm glad you're happy.. that stuff is in better hands, I'm sure!).Got anything I might need,I'll trade ya.Controller for.....Whatever....lol!

[oddball]

Awesome .....Now get those Headers on LOLMay be next project.

[Hammer Head]

Got anything I might need,I'll trade ya.Controller for.....Whatever....lol!


hmmm.... IDK. You'd have to look at my list again & see if there's anything on it you'd want. If not.. I'm open to straight up buy the damn thing.

[oddball]

hmmm.... IDK. You'd have to look at my list again & see if there's anything on it you'd want. If not.. I'm open to straight up buy the damn thing.I don't even know if the damn thing works,no reason to believe it don't,but I aint sellin nothing w/o knowing if it works or not.I'll send it to you,if it works,You buy the Guinness in Ia.,if not throw it in the trash,and you still get to buy the Guinness in Ia. for shipping!lol.I don't drink much.

[Hammer Head]

Heh.. did you have a spare wiring harness for it, too?

[oddball]

Heh.. did you have a spare wiring harness for it, too?I don't think so.

[oddball]

Well, the headers are in.....FINALLY.....this was the hardest install I have ever done!The ds was terrible.I had that one in and out 3-4 times.1st time I put it in the cut out for the knock sensor was not big enough,took 2 tries with the die grinder and a burr bit to get that.the next thing was the tubes were bent so tight at the flange that I could not even get a bolt to start,again,die grinder and a large teardrop burr to open the hole up to get a bolt in it.Once the header was in I had to start that bolt first.Half of the bolt on the ds had to be tightened with an open end wrench,still not sure I got that one on #3 tight!Since the steering shaft was on the outside of the header rather that going through the header it rubbed hard enough that you could hardly turn it,no problem BFH,fixed.Bracket behind ps pump in the way,remove front of engine or cut it off...cut.Knock sensor took a beating,literaly!
Before
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/headers/DSCF0166.jpg
After
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/headers/DSCF0174.jpg
Passenger side was not much better.Ac lines in the way,Ac needs recharging now!Heater hose no big deal.Dipstick tube goes up through header,PITA!Had to clearance floor board w/ BFH and a piece of pipe.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/headers/DSCF0175.jpg
Knock sensor cut out.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/headers/DSCF0171.jpg
Back hole on #3 cyl.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/headers/DSCF0172.jpg
And of course,sound clip of open headers.I think it is a law that you have to hear them open after you put them on!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/headers/th_DSCF0176.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/headers/?action=view&current=DSCF0176.flv)
Maybe build ex. tomorrow night.

[Bone Crusher]

:D

[spideyjected]

NICE!

[oddball]

:DGood ta see ya.

[oddball]

NICE!Morning Eric.

[spideyjected]

The 4.3 sounds pretty cool with NO real exhaust! How's it going Rick? Was it idling better in that vid? I couldn't tell.

[Hammer Head]

Sweet! I'm happy those headers went to a good home. How's the truck runnin now? I see you kept in step by droppin an F'bomb in this video, too.. hahaha. Duals out the side w/ just mufflers.. 2.5" tube or you still thinking full exhaust?

[12sws27]

Kick ass!

[oddball]

Sweet! I'm happy those headers went to a good home. How's the truck runnin now? I see you kept in step by droppin an F'bomb in this video, too.. hahaha. Duals out the side w/ just mufflers.. 2.5" tube or you still thinking full exhaust?After it made a little temp,it was idling kinda fast,which is a switch!I'm not sure which way to go on the exhaust.I'm not a big fan of duals out the side.I would like to use an H and exit under the bumper,but the gas tank screws that up.IDK.I don't like the idea of putting headers on and then running a single exhaust.BTW,when I cut the cat off,I assume it was the cat,empty.Nothing in there,just a shell that looked as if it had never had anything in it.Is there something else they put under there in the exhaust besides the cat and the muffler?Stupid question I know,but,WTF I'll ask any way!lol.My apologies for the f bomb!

[spideyjected]

The F bomb rocked! All there was under my truck was a cat and a muffler.

[oddball]

The F bomb rocked! All there was under my truck was a cat and a muffler.That was nothing but headers.My cat was totally empty,nothing but carbon in there!Gonna do like Lee said,piece of 2.5 straight through.Unless I can figure out how top get past the tank with duals,I guess I'll run a single 2.5 all the way out the stock exit.

[spideyjected]

I LOVE the part where you shut it off. It rUMBLES and then... silence.

[oddball]

I LOVE the part where you shut it off. It rUMBLES and then... silence.The acoustics of a steel building!

[TreasonAgainstCaesar]

Is the spare tire mounted underneath? If so, a rear mounted spare carrier might give you some extra room to play with. I know that'd add a lot of work and cost, but just a thought.

[oddball]

Is the spare tire mounted underneath? If so, a rear mounted spare carrier might give you some extra room to play with. I know that'd add a lot of work and cost, but just a thought.No,It is inside bolted to the wall on the ds,stupidest damn thing I ever saw,Blocks all your view of that corner.

[Danzcameo]

You sure have some time in this already Rick!

I like the project thread's-:)

[oddball]

You sure have some time in this already Rick!

I like the project thread's-:)Thanks Dan,it looks like crap but I'm getting it done little by little.It is a lesson in patience.I love the project threads.So much info and so many options.Going to try and build the exhaust tomorrow,if it aint to hot when I get off.

[oddball]

Ok,well the exhaust is put back together.I went to O'Rielys yesterday and bought a couple of 2.5" 90*s,a couple of 2.5" 45*s and a couple of 2.5" straight sections.My original intention was to build a 2.5" straight through cat which I got all cut up and ready to weld and realized that the way I planned on building the "Y" pipe did not leave room for that,so I just deleted the cat,hope they don't look for it when I go for inspection!Going to look around for a smaller one and just move it and the flowmaster back further if need be.Here are some pics of the cat.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0183.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0184.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0185.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0186.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0187.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0188.jpg

[oddball]

I made my own "Y",Didn't think I could make it flow any worse than the factory pipe!Anyway....I was short one 90* bend so I had to cut up the factory "Y" and use part of it for the driver side.Since these are long tube headers you cannot go in front of the tranny pan,you have to go around it,I used the bend from the the ds that goes across to tie into the ps to do the same thing again except it comes around behind the pan and between it and the cross member,kind of a tight fit.Then I used a 45* to turn Back towards the rear.I used another 45*os the ps to got to the 45*.I put the collectors on loosely so the could still be moved,but tight enough to stay where I put them.I put the factory 90* on with the 45*on it,then slipped the ps 45* on the collector,then where the 45*s overlapped I marked them with a black marker took the down and trimmed them with an .045 cutting wheel.This took 3-4 times to get them close enought to the diameter that I wanted,2.5",before I could tack them.Once I got them cut and tacked up I tacked everything behind them then took the whole thind down and mig welded it on the table.
This is the mock up before the first cut.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0189.jpg

Tacked up on the table and ready to weld.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0190.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0191.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0192.jpg

For the next piece I use the 2 90*s.I bolted the "Y" back in place took one of the straight sections and cut it roughly in half to hold the muffler in place and get an Idea of how tall the offset was going to have to be.then I took both 90*s,held them up there together so that they were facing opposite directions and marked them so when I cut them there was about 1/2" gap between them.I used the bell off of the straight section to make a coupling out of.This is where I connected everything together since it was fairly open area to weld in.Once the 90*s are cut up you have to fit it to your first piece.

Cut,fit up and tacked.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0193.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0194.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0195.jpg

Oh,and DON'T forget the o2 bung like I did,you have to cut it output the bung in then weld it back in!AND,be careful where you put it,I had to cut the pigtail off and mine and make it longer!

[oddball]

And here it is all put togerther and installed,since I went under the tranny crossmember,it just peeks out from under the frame by about an inch.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0196.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0197.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0198.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0199.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0200.jpg

[oddball]

And last but not least,this is what she sounds like.Some of you may be disappointed,but I was careful and there are no F bombs in this vid!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/th_DSCF0207.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/?action=view&current=DSCF0207.flv)

[Danzcameo]

Good job Rick! I swear I'm gonna buy me a forklift! :D

[oddball]

Good job Rick! I swear I'm gonna buy me a forklift! :DThanks Dan! They're pretty handy!How ya doin?

[Danzcameo]

Thanks Dan! They're pretty handy!How ya doin?

Doin pretty well bud-thanks for askin!
hows it hangin with you?
I'll bet your (Exhausted)! LOL

[oddball]

Doin pretty well bud-thanks for askin!
hows it hangin with you?
I'll bet your (Exhausted)! LOL
Ehh,doin ok.(Exhasted)......good one Dan!Started it about 5pm and finished up about midnight.Was on a roll untill I realized I had forgotten the o2!

[Danzcameo]

Caught that-Cant forget the bung hole---you knew I had to! LOL

Back lurking again in a couple hours.;)

[spideyjected]

That sounds really good!

[oddball]

That sounds really good!Thanks Eric,I'm quite pleased with it,almost a v8 sound,but not quite.pretty much what I was shooting for.I may buy the 2.5" tailpipie from Jason and put it in there,that is a 2.25 tailpipe.

[spideyjected]

I think they sound like their V8 brothers with open headers. Mine sounds like crap.

[oddball]

I think they sound like their V8 brothers with open headers. Mine sounds like crap.lol!Open headers everything sounds like a v8!

[12sws27]

I like it! I usually don't care for loud 4.3's but yours sounds really good. Long tubes do the trick I guess.

[Bone Crusher]

Sounds really good Rick......

Love the truck lift, I have done that before too.....LOL

[oddball]

Thanks Scott,Chris.It really is'nt much louder than stock at idle,or just off idle,only when you stand on it,I think it would have a little deeper tone to it with the 2.5" tailpipe.I do not like having headers and going back to a single out,but after hearing it I don't really think duals would have sounded as good,v6's with dual usually sound,like,well,2 3 cylinders running side by side!Jason has a 2.5" mandrel bent tailpipe I think I am going to get if he aint sold it yet.Yes,Bob(the forklift) is handy to have around.As far as I can tell there are no leaks.

[ShowNgo4fun]

That thing sounds like a beast. Not bad for a 4.3.:cool:

[oddball]

That thing sounds like a beast. Not bad for a 4.3.:cool:Thank you,more to come.

[oddball]

Well I took her out for a drive,runs great......over45-50mph!I am beginning to think it may be a vac leak as someone suggested at one time,gonna go get an upper plenum gasket tomorrow.

[rentedmule]

I like it! I usually don't care for loud 4.3's but yours sounds really good. Long tubes do the trick I guess.


x2 - I really like it!

[oddball]

Well,changed the plenum gasket,idles real good now,part throttle sux!I don't have a tach so I cant say what the rmp range is that it goes to crap.Once you get the R's up it runs real good,turn the tires over through 1st and part of 2nd gear.New plenum gasket,iac,and tps.That's it,I have had it with this fukin cpi!not putting any more money into it.As soon as I get the money I am going to order a 2114 and try the projection on it and if that don't make me happy we are going old school,na and maybe even sprayed!:mad:

[TreasonAgainstCaesar]

sounds really good! nice work!

[87wildside]

God damn Ricky, that sound awesome.

[oddball]

Thanks guys,I'm kinda proud of that"Y"never built one before,that was my first attempt.

[oddball]

Well it's going to be a while before I get anything else done to her.The next project is going to be to buy tires and spacers for the c5 wheels probably buy some cheap used tires off of e bay until I find the size that I like.I am going to drop it enough to close the wheel well gap up,and leave a little nose down rake on it,not real severe just a little attitude.Then freshen up the 98 4.3 I have sitting on the engine stand,all new gaskets and seals and possibly a new valve train,gonna send John the intake and every thing on it and buy a 2114,no it will not be set up for multi port.Of course this is all subject to change if I happen to run across a good deal on,say,a 427 or 454 then its start over,oh yeah,I forgot,somewhere in all that the hydroboost goes in and the abs comes out.I think I got that figured out.Believe it or not gotta use a F*** part!

[oddball]

Hb came in today,brakes may be next........

[87wildside]

Wooo!

[Jongo88]

Cool...

[oddball]

I forgot to take this pic when I built the "y" pipe,but this is all you can see of it when you look under the car.Did not want to whore up somebody elses "y" pipe thread with my pics
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/y%20pipe/DSCF0378.jpg

[Hammer Head]

That's a nice fit.

[oddball]

That's a nice fit.Thanks Jason,I worried when I built it.

[Jongo88]

That would look good on my truck...:D

[oddball]

That would look good on my truck...:DCome on over,about 20$ worth of parts an you can have one,oh yeah,and 2 6packs of Guinness,and Bob prefers the green diesel,too much sulfur in the red diesel,makes his injectors hurt.

[Jongo88]

It sucks that everyone is so dam far away...:mad:

[oddball]

It sucks that everyone is so dam far away...:mad:If you had long tube Hedman Headers,I'd just take mine off,send it to you and build me a new one,problem solved,

[Jongo88]

:(:(:(:(:(

[Danzcameo]

Thats how to hang pipe! :D

[oddball]

Thats how to hang pipe! :DHowdy Dan!I been hangin pipe on a fairly regular basis here lately,does wonders for your attitude!!lol

[Jongo88]

You ole pipe hanger you...

[Danzcameo]

Howdy Dan!I been hangin pipe on a fairly regular basis here lately,does wonders for your attitude!!lol


Yessir-I believe you are correct. hehehehe
good job by the way!:)

[oddball]

You ole pipe hanger you...Ehh,well,You know..............I'm good at anything I choose to do.............

[oddball]

This thread is looking like the old guys club!We're all here,cept Ed and Tom!lol

[Jongo88]

Dan still has a couple of weeks to be young...

[oddball]

Dan still has a couple of weeks to be young...Ok...............:cool:

[Danzcameo]

Dan still has a couple of weeks to be young...

Its true-its over-hehehe:D

[Danzcameo]

I'm like the YOUNGER Brother-a digit short-hehehe

[Jongo88]

We will be the same age in two weeks... lol. You old goat...

[Danzcameo]

We will be the same age in two weeks... lol. You old goat...

something tells me you guys wont let me forget

[Jongo88]

Just two weeks....
Only two weeks...
In two weeks....

[Danzcameo]

:eek: now i feel old:( LOL J/K

[oddball]

something tells me you guys wont let me forgetWhat you think that WE would rub it in that in 2WEEKS you will be an old bastage like us?I'm hurt Dan.....................................HAHAHAhaha ,hurt,yeah right!We lub ya Dan...........In a purely heterosexual way of course!

[Danzcameo]

I'm feelin the lub-some liquid celebration is in order!!! b days comin fast

[Jongo88]

I'm feelin the lub-some liquid celebration is in order!!! b days comin fast
In only two weeks...

[oddball]

In only two weeks...really,just 2 weeks.......

[oddball]

Ahhhhh.....nothing like whorin your own thread,nobody can whine about it.............only 2 weeks.....

[Danzcameo]

Wont be long now ! hehehehe:thumbup_1

[oddball]

I'm like the YOUNGER Brother-with a short digit-heheheLittle too much info there Dan!

[Jongo88]

Little too much info there Dan!
LOL!!!!
Two weeks

[oddball]

LOL!!!!
Two weeksYup,that's all,2 weeks

[Jongo88]

Good night all..

[spideyjected]

Hey you guys only got like 13 years on me (o; I guess 12 for Dan for 2 weeks anyway.

[12sws27]

Hey you guys only got like 13 years on me (o; I guess 12 for Dan for 2 weeks anyway.
Jitter bug! ^^^^^

[Jongo88]

:D

[spideyjected]

Me likes that dance!

[T Man]

You old bastards almost have me doubled. Sleep on that one tonight

[Jongo88]

:D

[oddball]

You old bastards almost have me doubled. Sleep on that one tonightFew more months and I WILL have you doubled there jr.!lol.

[Jongo88]

:D

[oddball]

It looks like the hb and the abs delete are next.

[oddball]

Getting ready to order parts and would like to make sure that what I am about to order is the right stuff.been doing a lot of reading and this is the start.Doing the heads/valvetrain first next is the lower end.Cam and valvetrain are going to be Comp Cams the lower end is going to be Kieth Black and Eagle.Right now I am gathering up the head/valvetrain parts,here they are so far.Suggestions/opinions needed.
Rocker arms
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-1602-12/Application/?query=Year|1998|Engine+Size|4.3L%2f262 (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-1602-12/Application/?query=Year%7C1998%7CEngine+Size%7C4.3L%2f262)
lifters 875-12
http://www.summitracing.com/search/?keyword=875-12&dds=1
pushrods 7808-12
http://www.summitracing.com/search/?keyword=7808-12&dds=1
Exhaust valves
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MAN-11305-8/
Intake valves
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MAN-10650-8/
NOW,this is where I get lost.Springs retainers,and locks.I know Chris has a list of these but I appear to stupid to find them.If I have it right I am going to order the rocker arms,lifters,and push rods tonight.Help a brother spend some money and tell me if all these are going to work together!

[Danzcameo]

Hey Rick how are you? I see your about to invest/stimulate the economy,
those little spring retainers we used to call them (keepers) but thats just some back yard lingo i;m sure i have to go for a few-fun:)

[oddball]

Doin ok Dan,tired worked 80+ hours last week.Yeah gonna do my part,I hope at least part of this stuff is made in America!

[Danzcameo]

Doin ok Dan,tired worked 80+ hours last week.Yeah gonna do my part,I hope at least part of this stuff is made in America!

Those kind of hours will wear you down for sure! Made in america-We were LOL

[oddball]

Those kind of hours will wear you down for sure! Made in america-We were LOLGonna cut back to about 70 this week!

[Danzcameo]

Gonna cut back to about 70 this week!

Atleast we know whos makin all the $$$$ :cool:

[oddball]

Atleast we know whos makin all the $$$$ :cool:I do ok.I polly support 2-3 welfare hoes!

[neo71665]

When you gonna start on that HB cause I'm needing detailed pics and measurements to make sure you do it right, lol.

[oddball]

When you gonna start on that HB cause I'm needing detailed pics and measurements to make sure you do it right, lol.I'll get right on that!Actually I am going to get started pretty soon,while I am gathering up the parts for the other engine.I just ordered the Rocker arms,lifters,and push rods..........446$

[oddball]

I have been thinking about the hb.Instead of the stainless braid and a n fittings,I am going to see if I can just have hydraulic lines made.71$ for 20' ON SALE at summit,I think I can have hydraulic line made cheaper,and keep the shiny crap out from under my hood.

[neo71665]

I'll get right on that!Actually I am going to get started pretty soon,while I am gathering up the parts for the other engine.I just ordered the Rocker arms,lifters,and push rods..........446$


Guess I lucked out and able to reuse my old pushrods, I feel your pain on the rest of the stuff tho.


I have been thinking about the hb.Instead of the stainless braid and a n fittings,I am going to see if I can just have hydraulic lines made.71$ for 20' ON SALE at summit,I think I can have hydraulic line made cheaper,and keep the shiny crap out from under my hood.

Thought about that myself, I can get the hydro lines made local for cheap. Then I won't feel the need to replace the rest to make it match.

[oddball]

Guess I lucked out and able to reuse my old pushrods, I feel your pain on the rest of the stuff tho.



Thought about that myself, I can get the hydro lines made local for cheap. Then I won't feel the need to replace the rest to make it match.I probably could use my old push rods,but decided if I was going to do this everything in there was going to be new.Those are my exact thoughts on the brake lines.

[Danzcameo]

Howdy Rick Did you buy those blocks and springs?

[oddball]

Nahh,they went for over 100$,let them go.that's too much for springs and blocks.I'm still trying to figure out just what I REALLY want the suspension to do,have not given it a lot of thought yet,concentrating on the the drivetrain right now,this week I think I am going to order my valves.........there goes another 200$!

[Danzcameo]

prob just as well-you would prob have needed new short shocks,dont know if you would have been able to get camber back in front end=
eating front tires not really a good thing. ride quality questionable

[oddball]

prob just as well-you would prob have needed new short shocks,dont know if you would have been able to get camber back in front end=
eating front tires not really a good thing. ride quality questionableYeah,Pretty much what I thought too.

[oddball]

Well push rods and lifters came in yesterday by Fedex,UPS attempted to deliver the rocker arms today but were too stupid to find the addy!Pics when I get them all gathered up.

[neo71665]

You lucked out, I'm still waiting on my rings. Everything else came in yesterday tho.

[oddball]

You lucked out, I'm still waiting on my rings. Everything else came in yesterday tho.That sux!Kinda tough to build an engine with no rings.

[oddball]

Well,ordered more parts:
http://www.summitracing.com/search/?keyword=26918%2012&dds=1
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-774-12/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ARP-134-7201/
I have to give Bone Crusher a lot of thanks for his parts list in his Opreation Comp Cams thread other than the rocker arms and the cam all of the parts are right from his parts list,and the part #'s for his valves.Thanks Chris.

[oddball]

Well,UPS finally pulled their heads out and delivered my rocker arms,over a week late,my intake and my valves.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-2114/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MAN-10766-8/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MAN-11565-8/

[oddball]

Bought another 1st gen.'87 2dr blazer,n/a 2.9 auto,cold a/c(scrap),new brake booster(scrap),power windows work(he says),no I have not even seen it yet but that don't really matter.It makes this project much easier AND I have lots of spare parts now!BTW 800$,a little more than I wanted to spend but this is what I wanted.Runs and drives good(again,he says).Now I have something to drive this winter while I continue to gather parts and get Engine built,actually debating just buying a block and rotating assy.

[spideyjected]

This is how S10 collections start...

[oddball]

This is how S10 collections start...It's not a collection,it's only two,for now.............

[neo71665]

It's not a collection,it's only two,for now.............



Thats how it starts, next thing you know you got a 88 reg cab project, you drive a 87 blazer, your dad drives a 93 reg cab, your little brother drives a 98 reg cab, you have a 92 ex cab and 93 reg cab parts truck and looking at getting a 88 blazer for parts.

S-series are like rabbits. As long as its only one in the yard its fine but once you get two they multiply like crazy.

[oddball]

Thats how it starts, next thing you know you got a 88 reg cab project, you drive a 87 blazer, your dad drives a 93 reg cab, your little brother drives a 98 reg cab, you have a 92 ex cab and 93 reg cab parts truck and looking at getting a 88 blazer for parts.

S-series are like rabbits. As long as its only one in the yard its fine but once you get two they multiply like crazy.
yall make it sound like a bad thing.

[spideyjected]

Oh no, it's not a bad thing. It's just a fact of life. S10's multiply. They somehow endear themselves to their owners in spite of or because of their quirks.

[oddball]

Oh no, it's not a bad thing. It's just a fact of life. S10's multiply. They somehow endear themselves to their owners in spite of or because of their quirks.They are just so much,ummmm,fun.Kinda like those toys you got when you were a kid,where you could mix and match parts,we are just bigger kids now!You know the old saying"Boys never grow up,they just get more expensive toys."that's us

[spideyjected]

LOL! Yep, they are fun and more expensive, BUT not as expensive as other choices might be. That's the beauty of an S10, cheap and plentiful!

[oddball]

LOL! Yep, they are fun and more expensive, BUT not as expensive as other choices might be. That's the beauty of an S10, cheap and plentiful!So true my friend!

[neo71665]

yall make it sound like a bad thing.



Only bad if you don't have the property to store them, lmao.

[oddball]

Only bad if you don't have the property to store them, lmao.I don't,but my boss does!He has lots of toys.My favorite is the vw bug w/ a 5.0 backed up by a c6 w/ a divorced t-case on top of a set of 6:72 Rockwells.5.0 is blown.....................up!

[oddball]

Well I now have 2 1st gens.Don't have time right now,but I'll get pics as soon as I can,I think I did pretty good for 800$,it goes it stops the a/c is cold and I have LOTS of spare parts!

[12sws27]

Sweet! Does the radio work too?

[oddball]

Sweet! Does the radio work too?Ummm......what radio!lol.It will after I buy a new one!Going back to Alpine screw a pos pioneer,I will NEVER buy another pioneer deck.Tires,spacers,wheels and drop while engine parts are being gathered up,the things that can be done and still have some thing to drive this winter while gf takes a nap,except for nice days.A lot of cosmetic stuff will be transplanted from the 93,starting with most of the front(grill,head light buckets,HID's),anythjing that looks better on the 93than the 87 Will be put on the 87.I know somebody with a sawzall that may get a set of doors.,if he can manage the freight on them,but that will prolly be a while.Rust free doors from Texas!

[oddball]

Ok,pics of ther "Mistress".........
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0128mistress0005-Copy.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0128mistress0005-Copy.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0128mistress0006.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0128mistress0006.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0128mistress0007.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0128mistress0007.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0128mistress0008.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0128mistress0008.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0128mistress0009.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0128mistress0009.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0128mistress0010.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0128mistress0010.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0128mistress0011.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0128mistress0011.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0128mistress0012.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0128mistress0012.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0128mistress0014.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0128mistress0014.jpg)
Kind of rough but I think it was worth the money,like I said,plenty of spare parts on the old lady.

[spideyjected]

It looks like the BLD's cousin.

[oddball]

It looks like the BLD's cousin.Don't it though!Probably going to take the front clip off the 93 and put it on her.

[oddball]

Different Blazer same project so I see no need in starting another thread.Just ordered all the parts for a 3 3 drop for her,hope I got all the parts.Heres the list.
Spindles
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G705/
Springs
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BEL-4200/
Front shocks
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BEL-8007/
Rear shocks
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BEL-8530/
I already have 3" blocks,see anything I missed?Before I put all this in I plan on completely rebuilding the front end.

[Danzcameo]

Hey Rick I see your collection is growing! decent find.:)

[oddball]

Hey Rick I see your collection is growing! decent find.:)Thanks Dan,I thought so.I was just glad to find a 2dr 1st gen that some one like me had not got a hold of yet!

[oddball]

Well my pile of parts didn't go down,but I did get one thing accoplished.Charles and I swapped the ds door out today and put new pins and bushings in.Next get the other door done and move on to the rest of the front clip.Pics.

This is what the problem was,the door side half of the hinge broke.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/bike%20and%20me/th_2009_0219bikeandme0008.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/bike%20and%20me/?action=view&current=2009_0219bikeandme0008.jpg)

BEFORE
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/bike%20and%20me/th_2009_0219bikeandme0002.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/bike%20and%20me/?action=view&current=2009_0219bikeandme0002.jpg)

AFTERhttp://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/bike%20and%20me/th_2009_0219bikeandme0005.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/bike%20and%20me/?action=view&current=2009_0219bikeandme0005.jpg)

[oddball]

A little more progress and an after pic.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0221bikeandme0002.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0221bikeandme0002.jpg)

[oddball]

Decided I had to get some of these parts out of here,since I have a weekend off WOO HOO!!Drop in progress.This is my first go at working on suspension,Had no Idea you had to PRESS the lower ball joint out and back in.Lee informed me of this.FUKIN great! I should have called BEFORE I took it apart!lol.No big deal,still got a little accomplished,installed new upper ball joint and new Belltech 1" drop coil spring.Pic.

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0224Mistress0012.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0224Mistress0012.jpg)

Since I was in the mood,I did the 3" drop on the rear,3" blocks,with 2.5* pinion shims,Belltech nitro 2 drop shocks.Pics.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0224Mistress0013.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0224Mistress0013.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0224Mistress0015.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0224Mistress0015.jpg)

I have a press coming later today so I can do the ball joints and the Belltech 2"drop spindles.

Before(Rear)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0224Mistress0001-Copy.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0224Mistress0001-Copy.jpg)

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0224Mistress0003.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0224Mistress0003.jpg)

After(rear)
This is in the air w/ the blocks,shims,and shocks installed and the suspension uncompressed wheel well gap about the same as it was compressed before blocks.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0224Mistress0016.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0224Mistress0016.jpg)

Rear sitting back down on its tires.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0224Mistress0017.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0224Mistress0017.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0224Mistress0018.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0224Mistress0018.jpg)

Had no coil spring compressor,So i just put a pipe jack under the lca take everything loose,then screw the pipe jack down,pry the old spring out,throw it in the floor push the new one in screw the jack back up untill I can put the end link back in the sway bar.No problem!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0224Mistress0011.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0224Mistress0011.jpg)

New Belltech old stock spring.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0224Mistress0009.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0224Mistress0009.jpg)

[spideyjected]

Did you have to rent a Ball joint press or do you know someone who has one?
The uppers and lowers are riveted on 4X4's. I did lower ball joints on my el camino, they pressed in. It's a cake walk with the press.

[spideyjected]

Are you still planning to keep the 4 door or are you gonna sell it?

[oddball]

A friend of mine is bringing a press over.Yeah the uppers were riveted in,the lower is pressed in,Parting out the 4dr.Want the back doors?Lee has already asked for the front doors and front clip off the red one,I'm going to use the front clip off the blue one.

[12sws27]

A friend of mine is bringing a press over.Yeah the uppers were riveted in,the lower is pressed in,Parting out the 4dr.Want the back doors?Lee has already asked for the front doors and front clip off the red one,I'm going to use the front clip off the blue one.
Pics of you pressing the old ones out and the new in?

[oddball]

Pics of you pressing the old ones out and the new in?My buddy is supposed to be bringing one,well,ok,I got to go rent one,will take pics when I do it.Looks like the 3" drop in the back is going to be ok,may have to use a little taller tire than originally planned though.

[Bone Crusher]

Didnt Cody already take pics of a ball joint removal with the C-clamp press that he rented?

[Bone Crusher]

Ricky....that looks way better now. Good job man

[12sws27]

Didnt Cody already take pics of a ball joint removal with the C-clamp press that he rented?
You know what? He did, didn't he.. I forgot all about that.

[oddball]

Well finally got done,Getting the ball joint out was no big deal,press worked great,only took a few min.Getting it back in was a whole different story......anyway Its done.pics
Rear dropped front still at stock hieght.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0225Mistress0001.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0225Mistress0001.jpg)

New balljoints,1" drop coil,2" spindle.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0225Mistress0008.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0225Mistress0008.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0225Mistress0010.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0225Mistress0010.jpg)

Pressing out old balljoint,
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0225Mistress0011.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0225Mistress0011.jpg)

Finished.Springs,shocks,spindles.
Before.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0224Mistress0001-Copy.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0224Mistress0001-Copy.jpg)
After.http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0225Mistress0014.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0225Mistress0014.jpg)

[oddball]

Hmmm,looking at pic,I need more weight up front to compress the springs,2.8 aint heavy enough.

[Hammer Head]

Sweet

[spideyjected]

Hmmm,looking at pic,I need more weight up front to compress the springs,2.8 aint heavy enough.
It's getting more engine anyway, right?:cool:

[12sws27]

Give it time. The coils will settle a little bit. Did you measure before and after?

[oddball]

It's getting more engine anyway, right?:cool:This is true!

[oddball]

Give it time. The coils will settle a little bit. Did you measure before and after?Measure?Ummm,well,no...:o

[spideyjected]

Measure? WTH is that?

[oddball]

Measure? WTH is that?WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING MEASURE(ment)!lol.I'll just wait,I'm not worried about that extra inch!lmao

[12sws27]

When I dropped mine I measured before and after. But it was all for no reason because by the time I measured the after I had forgotten the before....

As the springs get broke in it will lower a little more. You probably didn't get a full inch out of the springs. My 3" springs after a short while gave me another 3/4" drop. When I first did them the front looked and felt a little high.

[oddball]

When I dropped mine I measured before and after. But it was all for no reason because by the time I measured the after I had forgotten the before....

As the springs get broke in it will lower a little more. You probably didn't get a full inch out of the springs. My 3" springs after a short while gave me another 3/4" drop. When I first did them the front looked and felt a little high.I did measure,but I measured for the 4dr,I think I originally made the parts list for the 4dr with the 4.3 not a 2dr with a 2.8,don't really know if there is a different part # for the two,kind of immaterial now!Don't really matter.the 4.3 is in the works,prolly after the first of the year.IIRC I looked at them and the new spring was physically shorter than the original.I think I took a pic of them side by side.Any way.it don't really matter now,I have rubbing issues though.

[oddball]

Ok,rubbing issue.
235/75r15
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0225Mistress0018.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0225Mistress0018.jpg)

Temporary fix,225/70r15
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0225Mistress0022.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0225Mistress0022.jpg)

Changing tires.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0225Mistress0019.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0225Mistress0019.jpg)

Looks pretty meskin,but it solves the problem for now and answers a question,that being how tall a tire I will be able to run on the vette wheels.

And what it looks like with 2 different types of wheels and 2 different size tires,kinda like a refugee from a junk yard!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_2009_0225Mistress0020.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=2009_0225Mistress0020.jpg)

[spideyjected]

Your jack rocks!

[oddball]

Your jack rocks!Thank you!Jack's,both blazers are in the air.

[jgx421]

nice looking drop on the blazer, ricky....

[oddball]

nice looking drop on the blazer, ricky....Thanks John2,I'm dieing to see it with the c5's !Next comes al the body parts,since I can do all that and not spend any money.Front clip,passenger door,tail gate,may even put the roof rack on it just so I don't have to fill in the holes in the roof.I know,I'm lazy!lol

[oddball]

I ordered a floor shift console and floor shifter off ebey on the 14th still not here.How long does a seller have to get your stuff to you.Anybody know.said it was coming ups.

[TreasonAgainstCaesar]

I think it depends on how long the seller states it will take him to send it... but there is more info listed here:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/item-not-received.html

The other thing is that if you need to file a claim through paypal, there is a certain time window that you have to be able to do that. I think you need an a recent transaction on your account to get more info on that, but here is some of the basics
https://www.paypal.com/helpcenter/main.jsp;jsessionid=sgrGKpvCQTnW2dPkPkJtr2qnJsYsBj d5swb93pHPQyRQH2MzypTJ!897088208?versionpath=HELPW EB-600-20091026-1&ft=browseTab&_dyncharset=UTF-8&cmd=_help&countrycode=US&isSrch=Yes&t=solutionTab&ps=solutionPanels&solutionId=10180&locale=en_US&sidetopic=800036

[northcoastrides]

Hmmm,looking at pic,I need more weight up front to compress the springs,2.8 aint heavy enough.

2.8 aint big enough period..looks way better dropped I always liked 1st gen (2wd-2dr)blazers

[oddball]

I think it depends on how long the seller states it will take him to send it... but there is more info listed here:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/item-not-received.html

The other thing is that if you need to file a claim through paypal, there is a certain time window that you have to be able to do that. I think you need an a recent transaction on your account to get more info on that, but here is some of the basics
https://www.paypal.com/helpcenter/main.jsp;jsessionid=sgrGKpvCQTnW2dPkPkJtr2qnJsYsBj d5swb93pHPQyRQH2MzypTJ!897088208?versionpath=HELPW EB-600-20091026-1&ft=browseTab&_dyncharset=UTF-8&cmd=_help&countrycode=US&isSrch=Yes&t=solutionTab&ps=solutionPanels&solutionId=10180&locale=en_US&sidetopic=800036 (https://www.paypal.com/helpcenter/main.jsp;jsessionid=sgrGKpvCQTnW2dPkPkJtr2qnJsYsBj d5swb93pHPQyRQH2MzypTJ%21897088208?versionpath=HEL PWEB-600-20091026-1&ft=browseTab&_dyncharset=UTF-8&cmd=_help&countrycode=US&isSrch=Yes&t=solutionTab&ps=solutionPanels&solutionId=10180&locale=en_US&sidetopic=800036)Thanks for the links Jason.I checked out their procedure,sent the guy an email and in less than 10 min he responded.Said He had a hard time finding a box big enough and actually had to use 2 different boxes,I assume one for the onsole and one for the shifter,with an apology for not informing me of this problem,oming fedex should be here any time now,he says.Hope he aint bs'n me.

[oddball]

2.8 aint big enough period..looks way better dropped I always liked 1st gen (2wd-2dr)blazersI really wish it would have come down a little further in the front,but,all in all I'm pleased with it. Agreed.Building a 4.3 for it,finally found someone locally to build my heads yesterday.Little over 300$ to install the 2.02 and 1.60 hardened seats and a triple angle valve job.Thought I was going to have to ship them to Fla,still might.bought new es end links yesterday at auto stoned.Front sway bar dia.,anybody know right off hand?I know....use the search button.

[neo71665]

easiest way to measure sway bars is with a crescent wrench. Put it on the bar and tighten it up then pull it off and measure that. Our bars are measured in mm. I think first gens had anything from 25 to 35 in the front, just depends on the options.

[oddball]

easiest way to measure sway bars is with a crescent wrench. Put it on the bar and tighten it up then pull it off and measure that. Our bars are measured in mm. I think first gens had anything from 25 to 35 in the front, just depends on the options.Thanks DJ,never thought of that.Redneck calipers!lol.I will have to see if the one on the front of the 93 is bigger than the one on the 87,then see if auto stoned has the greaseable es poly bushings for it,they had 7/8ths and one a little over an inch on the shelf yesterday when bought the new es end links

[oddball]

Finally found a junkyard full of s10's and blazers,and camaros and firebirds and cavi's and sunfires.Some were picked over pretty good,but lots of good stuff left over,3 s10's with 5speeds.gonna get a set of real nice sunfire seats for 50$
http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/junk%20yard/

[oddball]

Well as you can see in my avi the 4dr has officially become a parts blazer.Have spent part of yesterday and today(got rained out) removing the front clips so I can swap the 93 front onto the 87 and get the left over 87 parts ready to relocate to colder parts of the country.going to pull engine and tranny pretty soon.Got to try and get the 4dr stripped pretty quick,I need her parking space,bought a '94 GMC Safari XT today good engine,cold air,hot heat,nice interior,4 new tires,and a bad tranny.200$ and a new,but cheap,Wal Mart battery.No,I am not going to tinker with it,put a tranny in it and drive it,THEN i can REALLY get down to what I really want to do with the blazer.BTW,are those AWD?Lee mentioned that it could possibly be AWD,I don't know anything about them.

[12sws27]

Yeah some of those vans are AWD. IDK which ones.

[oddball]

I really doubt that it is or he prolly would have said,may be he just don't know it is......

[trusconi]

check if it has front axle shafts if it does then see if it has a 4wd button. if it has a transfer case with no 4wd button it is prolly a AWD.

[oddball]

Oh yeah,found a really nice set of gray leather seats at j/y in a Maxima i'm going to get.

[oddball]

It takes me a while to get things done,but eventually they get done,the front clip swap is no exception!So far the only difference I have found in the two front clips is minor differences in the core support,the grill from the 93 wouldn't go on the 87 core support for lack of certain mounting holes missing.I could have modded it and made it but saw no need with having the one that fit correctly with all the right holes.Swapping out core support,fenders,grill,hood,cowl(thing under the wipers),bumper,doors,and tailgate.Going to add the hid's,and flexalites,and possibly add the msd coil and 6a box.Anybody notice I didn't mention inner fenderwells?Pics.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_152.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=152.jpg)http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_149.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=149.jpg)http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_146.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=146.jpg)http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_Frontclip001.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=Frontclip001.jpg)http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_Frontclip002.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=Frontclip002.jpg)

[oddball]

Yes,there is a 4.3 manifold for it....http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Detroit-Diesel-4-71-Blower-Rat-Rod-Supercharger-used-GM_W0QQitemZ250543361490QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBoat_Pa rts_Accessories_Gear?hash=item3a558c4dd2

[spideyjected]

Hey Ricky fyi, there seems to be NO o rings on the spider legs, that or they are the wrong ones. They should be snug in there but move in and out pretty freely. I'm guessing they leaked and then killed the pump. But the iac works REALLY good as does the cruise control woot WOOT!

[87wildside]

blue>red...lol

Looks good.

[oddball]

Hey Ricky fyi, there seems to be NO o rings on the spider legs, that or they are the wrong ones. They should be snug in there but move in and out pretty freely. I'm guessing they leaked and then killed the pump. But the iac works REALLY good as does the cruise control woot WOOT!Merry Christmas!See if you can find some of the right O rings.

[oddball]

blue>red...lol

Looks good.Easier than I expected.figured I would have to put shimms and other crap in there to make things line up,but,so far so good.

[trusconi]

it says Typhoon and syclone but i wonder if they would work? http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cst/full.aspx?page=140

[oddball]

it says Typhoon and syclone but i wonder if they would work? http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cst/full.aspx?page=140If you are looking at putting this on the blazer in your sig,yes it should work .It says it is a direct bolt on replacement part,just made by Holley.The one I am going to try and use is a stand alone system from Holley.The the throats on it are the same size as the secondaries on a quadrajet.http://www.holley.com/types/Pro-Jection%202-Bbl%20Throttle%20Body%20System.asp

[trusconi]

i was talking about the o rings for dt4ts blazanche

[oddball]

i was talking about the o rings for dt4ts blazancheOOPS! Sorry misunderstood!

[oddball]

Finally got the front clip changed except for the bumper and the plastic thing on the bottom of the bumper.

[spideyjected]

Woo Hoo! Enter it in TOTM we need a first gen (o:

[oddball]

Woo Hoo! Enter it in TOTM we need a first gen (o:Not yet,we has long way to go!Nothing to talk about.An 87 2dr with a 93 front clip,3/3 drop(spindles,shocks,and blocks),mega mile 2.8,2 different style rims with 2different size tires and no fenderwells,I aint even got the door cut for the fuel pump yet!

[Bone Crusher]

pics?

[oddball]

pics?Umm,hehe,I,umm seem to have forgotten that huh..........Be right back<grabs camera>.............

[spideyjected]

Umm,hehe,I,umm seem to have forgotten that huh..........Be right back<grabs camera>.............
lol:o)

[oddball]

Ok I gots pics,got distracted,had to stop and take pics of the loading operations of a vessel we are sending to Egypt.I thought I was going to get by with not having to change the core support,not so.Tho 93 grill did not fit the 87 core support very well,the 87 did not have some of the holes the 93 grill need to mount up.I changed the core support,both fenders,both doors and hood.Going to use the 93 bumper and plastic thing under it(need a new one of those).Ran all the wiring for the front end inside the ds fender and stashed the leftover plugs for the cruise control in there too.Next up will be ac delete,possibly look into moving the rad into the space the ac condenser was taking up,relocate battery behind passenger seat where back seat is right now,locate non ac heater box.Just working on things that don't cost anything or very little right now until things start picking back up again.Ok pics.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_Egypyianvesselandfrontclip009.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=Egypyianvesselandfrontclip009.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_Egypyianvesselandfrontclip010.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=Egypyianvesselandfrontclip010.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_Egypyianvesselandfrontclip011.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=Egypyianvesselandfrontclip011.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_Egypyianvesselandfrontclip012.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=Egypyianvesselandfrontclip012.jpg)
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/th_Egypyianvesselandfrontclip013.jpg (http://s433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/?action=view&current=Egypyianvesselandfrontclip013.jpg)

[spideyjected]

It's the "Captain America" edition Blazer!

[oddball]

I guess I need to find some white parts huh?

[Jongo88]

Looks goos Ricky.. It all lines up good too. I like that grille...

[oddball]

Looks goos Ricky.. It all lines up good too. I like that grille...Thanks John.The grill was one of the main reasons for changing the front clip,that and it don't have multiple layers or paint to sand off when the time comes to paint it!I really thought it was going to need a bunch of adjusting,but it was straight bolt up,used the marks from the bolts where it bolted up on the 93 and it lined right up.

[Bone Crusher]

Good job man.....its coming together slowly but surely

[oddball]

Thanks Chris,Yeah,slowly but surely,that's me!

[Hammer Head]

Ricky, give Lee a call & talk him out of the non-a/c heater box (firewall) I left him w/. I also have a new heater core here for the a/c delete 1st gens.

[87wildside]

I'll try to talk him out of it for Ricky...hehe

[oddball]

I'll try to talk him out of it for Ricky...heheHe kinda mentioned he had one the other day,hell,I didn't even know there was such a thing!

[oddball]

Ricky, give Lee a call & talk him out of the non-a/c heater box (firewall) I left him w/. I also have a new heater core here for the a/c delete 1st gens.What ya want for it Jason?Money is kinda tight right now,but shoot me a price and I'll get to it soon as I can.was going to change the rad and heater core anyhow,then realized they are 2 totally different rads,soit stays till I get to the engine.

[oddball]

Just ordered the uca's from UB machine,heads and intake are going to the machine shop this week to have all the Comp Cams stuff and Manley ss 2.02/1.60 valves put in.Plus for another 100$ they will do the gasket matching on intake and the heads,400$ total.I actually expect it to go higher because I'm sure I forgot something,I always do.....Traded the last s10 I bought for a complete 92 p/u with a na non-balance shaft 4.3,this should give me a good wiring harness to work with.....no computers,right?Once I get the front end done,and the heads back the lower end is next.

[Hammer Head]

Having the 'computer situation' I missed that post. You still want the heater core? I don't have the a/c delete box because Lee took that. PM me, I'm sure to get a message that way.. or call me.

[oddball]

Are the Howe tall lower ball joints for 78-88 G-bodies the ones I need from ppm?What bout uppers?Eric,where are you........

[rentedmule]

Those should be the ones you need. Is PPM selling them yet? If you ordered the UB upper arms built for metric tall ball joints than the replacement S10 tall upper BJs from PPM should fit. You'll probably get your UCAs before I get mine (I ordered them at the end of November)!

[oddball]

Those should be the ones you need. Is PPM selling them yet? If you ordered the UB upper arms built for metric tall ball joints than the replacement S10 tall upper BJs from PPM should fit. You'll probably get your UCAs before I get mine (I ordered them at the end of November)!End of Nov. !WTF!You are just over the border,not half way around the fvckin world!They told me about 2 weeks for mine.Not sure if they are or not,it just says pre-order,get you name on the list.Hope I ordered the right ones(uca's),Talked to Tony Told him what Eric told me and he looked up what Eric ordered and that is what I ordered,like I said I hope I got the right stuff.Just going to go to the parts house and buy the C10 uppers and order the tall lowers,just tryin to make sure before I spent 85$ each on the wrong parts.Thanks Tyson.

[rentedmule]

They messed up my order at UB so hopefully they'll arrive soon. If I need to change my lower ball joints I want to get the tall versions and I don't have much confidence that PPM is going to release them any time soon. They've had that pre-order out forever and they keep pushing them back 2 months at a time. They were supposed to be out last summer!

[oddball]

Well,not a lot to update,but I'm working on it.I don't get to get on much any more so here is what has been happening to Rick lately.
1.Bought an '02 Buell m2 Cyclone for 2 grand.Pic of GF and the Attention Whore.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/02%20Buell/280.jpg
2.Uca's from UB machine came in last week,I hope they fit as nice as they look!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/384.jpg
3.Heads are in the shop,went buy yesterday and took some pics.Not completed yet but looking good.Gasket matched.Intake ports before and after.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/336.jpghttp://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/390.jpg
4.2.02/1.60 stainless Manley valves and bronze guides.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/389.jpg
5.Bought a complete long block(non balance shaft),this is the block and crank I am going to use for my engine.The pistons,connecting rods,and cam from this engine will go into the '98 block along with the old style heads,buy a 2111 Edelbrock to top it off.Yhe only thing fancy in that engine will be the CompCams push rods and CompCams full roller rockers(Thanks Chris).This engine is for someone else,which buys me a complete wrecked 98 or 99 454 1 ton dually.My engine gets the afore mentioned heads with 1.6 CompCams ultra pro magnum full roller rockers,beehive springs,retainers,and locks.Pistons will be 10.5:1 forged flat tops with 6" H beam rods,fully balanced,and cross drilled.Going to try and go pick up the 1ton next weekend if I don't have to work.Cam...I guess we will never know how the 266 runs because I'm going to have it reground to a small base circle,with the 1.6 rockers it should come out to be about .575 on the lift and a bit longer on the duration,may have to play with the push rod length a little.And sprayed,100-150 shot.
6.Bought this just because it was cheap 150$
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/386.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/388.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Mistress/387.jpg
I am going to try and start being here more often,bit I'm tired,getting too old for this sh!t !!Later Rick

[spideyjected]

It is always good to hear from you.

[Jongo88]

Good to hear from you..

[Bone Crusher]

Nice bike, cool heads, very nice truck......and quit working 100 hours old man

[rentedmule]

Nice control arms, they look familiar!

[BigMoney]

Good to hear from you, Rick. What are your plans for that old Army truck?

[12sws27]

Hey Ricky!

[oddball]

Tyson-I'll get mine put in when I get my engine finished and have the front clip off,do it all at one time,so, I assume you finally got yours.Beautiful pieces of work,may order another set for the s10.
Anthony-IDK,but for 150$ I couldn't just let it sit there!Thinkin 12v Cummins(again),if it is a complete Dodge drive train it may not be too hard,it's hard to tell about those old things.Depending when it was made,there is no telling what kind of parts they threw together to build that truck,then again,may just throw a basically stock 318 in it,rv cam,electronic ign.,an Edelbrock w/ some kind of a 600cfm carb and call it good.
Scotty-Hows things bro?Hope all is well down yall's way,ok here,just tired.

[oddball]

Again,not much of an update,but here goes.Heads are done,those are the 98 vortec heads(400$).
Took my 98 balance shaft engine to my engine builder had it bored .30 ,bought an early model non balance shaft long block with a .10/.10 crank kit.
Had him tear it apart and use the heads,connecting rods and pistons with the 98 block and kept the .30 over non balance shaft for engine #2.
The heavier early model crank will be easier to work with when it goes out for balancing since the rod throws have not been hollowed.Hopefully it wont have to be welded on,just drilled or the balance job goes from 150$ to 300$.
The 5.7" H beam connecting rods(450$) should be in any time,was going to use 6",but he was concerned about the reciprocating weight,so we stay with 5.7".I believe he said they were Mahle rods.
Pistons will prolly be KB's.
So far having the heads built,buying a long block,having it torn apart,having the 98 torn apart,bored and put back together I'm at about 1500-2000$ on both engines.Pics.
.30 over,CompCams 1.52 full roller rockers(thanks Chris),stock length CompCams pushrods,oe cam.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/engine1/engine1186.jpg

CompCams 1.52 full roller rockers.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/engine1/engine1188.jpghttp://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/engine1/engine1187.jpg

head casting #
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/engine1/engine1190.jpg

Block casting #
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/engine1/engine1191.jpghttp://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/engine1/engine1192.jpg

[spideyjected]

It's a shame to put valve covers over those...

[oddball]

It's a shame to put valve covers over those...Is'nt it though........Plexiglass?How ya been Eric?

[oddball]

The next one gets 1.6's.,still gotta go to the junk yard and get a set of steel valve covers for it.

[Danzcameo]

Thats lookin good! Nice-I cant believe how tight the head clearance is around the pushrods, no room for bending those-

[oddball]

Thats lookin good! Nice-I cant believe how tight the head clearance is around the pushrods, no room for bending those-I noticed that too,makes ya wonder why you have to have self aligning rockerarms,pushrods can't go anywhere!The other heads will prolly have to be opened up because of the lift I'm going to have.

[Danzcameo]

Yeah even the older stuff was tight clearanced too, and i'm sure you'll have to enlarge those if you step up the lift. looks like a crazy little 4.3 though :)

[oddball]

Other than the rockers,pushrods and the bore it is stock.#2 is going to be the crazy one.Forged flat tops,H beam rods,Balanced,cross drilled crank,small base circle cam,heads done with 2.02/1.60 bronze guides gasket matched,and spray the piss out of it!

[Bone Crusher]

Can I have them back now? :(

Im glad they are finally mounted. Never noticed the 1.52 stamp on them but then again I never really took them out of the box. Good to see parts being used :D

[oddball]

Can I have them back now? :(

Im glad they are finally mounted. Never noticed the 1.52 stamp on them but then again I never really took them out of the box. Good to see parts being used :DLemme think on it..no..lol. Actually I only noticed them when I started taking pics.

[oddball]

Went to machine shop today,my connecting rods are in(Eagle H beams),talked it over and decided on KB pistons,dropped another 500$.Soon as we get the pistons,balancer and flex plate all will be sent out for balancing,and block will get bored.That's about it for right now.In the mean time I'm going to try and get tires,spacers and front end rebuilt.
Eagle "H" beams,yeah,I know you've seen'em before....
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/delete408.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/delete407.jpg

[87wildside]

Damn Ricky, you aint skimping on nothing.

[spideyjected]

I've never seen them before, wow they are purdy though!

[oddball]

Damn Ricky, you aint skimping on nothing.There is a HEALTHY shot going to go on this engine,trying to make sure it survives!

[oddball]

I've never seen them before, wow they are purdy though!Thank you Eric,they are nice.

[oddball]

Couldn't find any 4.3 pistons,not in stock or back ordered,my engine builder found me a set of Keith Black Icons for an sbc in Dallas,they should be in today.Got a set of 8 for like 10$ more than buying a set of 6 for a 4.3,crazy or what!Next week,balancing and regrind cam.BTW,the 266 will stay a 266,we both realized at about the same time,can't use that cam in this block,yeah I knew it,wasn't thinkin!SO i'm sending a stock cam to regrind,it will come back something like a CompCams 280,duration anyhow,lift will be .540,Compcams 280 is .525...GREAT,now I got a cam and nothing to put in,means I gotta build another one!lol

[Bone Crusher]

Wait, you cant use that 266 I sent you? How you doing BTW Ricky?

[oddball]

Wait, you cant use that 266 I sent you? How you doing BTW Ricky?Nope not in this block,early model non balance shaft,cam is shorter.I'll save it for ya,if I don't use it by the time you start looking at cams I'll send it back to ya!I'm doin pretty good Chris,things are about to kinda level out for a while,I think!Glad to hear the business is picking up,Good for you!Be back in the hot rod game in no time!I'm looking forward to seeing what this one is going to do.

[Bone Crusher]

Thanks man....I am getting anxious to see what your motor will produce too.

[oddball]

Not really sure what to expect out of it,no idea,I would LIKE to see close to 250 or over,may be expecting to much though IDK.Gonna have a butt load of money in it though!Ehh,it's only money!

[Bone Crusher]

I was expecting 245-250 with that 266 cam and the P/P and head work. I think you should at least expect that if not more with the bigger bore and 280 cam

[oddball]

Trying to think conservatively,actually,I'm still shooting for what my 1st or second here said,just getting there in steps.BTW,I aint against getting there by hittin the button either!

[oddball]

Just got some pics from my engine builder.
Not much to see except the work on the exhaust port,and the behive springs holding the ss Manley's in.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/engine2001.jpg

KB forged Icon pistons.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/engine2002.jpghttp://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/engine2003.jpg

Crank,bob weight,and cam are on their way to Dallas for balancing and regrinding,should start engine assembly next week.

[Hammer Head]

Sweet!

BTW, I'll have that heater core out by the end of the week. I went scrappin on my days off..

[oddball]

Sweet!

BTW, I'll have that heater core out by the end of the week. I went scrappin on my days off..Cool thanks Jason.Now I got 2 sets of backseat crap,If I cn just get around to getting back to work on my blazers!

[oddball]

Question/opinions.....If I were to put a 4.3 in in place of a 2.8,with a set of 2" drop spindles do yall think I could expect about 1" of compression out of the 2.8 springs,thus getting a 3" drop with just a spindle change?If so,how springy do you think it would be,and how easily do you think it would bottom out,thinking about the 83 s10.

[rentedmule]

From the listed weights I've seen the 4.3 is about 125 lbs heavier than the 2.8 so I'd say about 1" is right.

[oddball]

Kinda what I was thinking.Wonder how bouncy it would be?

[oddball]

Crank is back from balancing.Had to add a little weight to both ends,kinda expensive,but WTF,hot roddin aint about the money,it's about the end results.Cam is supposed to be back today or tomorrow,then the top end will go on. Pics of lower end.

Icon's in their new homes.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/lowerend002.jpg

Studded mains and H beams.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/lowerend001.jpg

[Bone Crusher]

Bling Bling

[Jongo88]

Lookin dam good....:jawdrop:

[oddball]

Thanks Chris,John.I was beginning to think I was wasting my time updating!ANYHOW,someone correct me if I am wrong.My understanding is that my rockers will NOT fit under the vortec rocker arm covers,but they WILL fit under the steel rocker arm covers off my 93 cpi,correct?Or do I need to start searching for some taller valve covers?

[spideyjected]

WHAT?? I made your engine my avatar! Those are some nice looking parts. I can't wait to see it all in action!

[oddball]

WHAT?? I made your engine my avatar! Those are some nice looking parts. I can't wait to see it all in action!Lol.It didn't go un-noticed either!That was the last place I expected to find a pic of the lower end of my engine!I really have no idea what to expect out of it,honestly,hoping for somewhere in the 275hp range,then I won't have to use so much N2o to get to my 400hp goal.This engine is going to see 400hp,one way or another.I don't care how.

[12sws27]

Ricky I'm always watching. I just hold back posting a lot to keep peoples threads on cluttered unless I have a good question or something better to say then, "Awesome!" :D

Popular option says that the steel center bolt OEM valve covers will fit full rollers with the poly locks. No experience with it though. Just what I've heard on the forums. There are also shorter poly locks out there.

[Danzcameo]

Keep'em (pics) and updates coming, we is watching-:)

[oddball]

Ricky I'm always watching. I just hold back posting a lot to keep peoples threads on cluttered unless I have a good question or something better to say then, "Awesome!" :D

Popular option says that the steel center bolt OEM valve covers will fit full rollers with the poly locks. No experience with it though. Just what I've heard on the forums. There are also shorter poly locks out there.Thanks Scotty,on both.That is what I've heard also,find out pretty soon hopefully.I wish I could find some of the old Fel-Pro cork racing gaskets,they were 1/4" thick.I used to take 2 sets and a tube of 3m yellow weather stripping adhesive and make one set,yellow glue them to the rocker arm covers leaving the head side dry,you could use them over and over as long as you didn't over torque them.

[oddball]

Went to Oreallys and ordered the Moog equivalent of the fa903 ubj for my UB machine uca's today,took one of the uca's with me to make sure I got the right ones.

[oddball]

Ok,got the c10 bj's,perfect fit Fvkers shorted me on nut,no problem,Fastenal is right down the street.Long block is completed.Cam came back a little smaller than expected but I aint btchin,for 75$ and with the 1.6 rockers gives me almost identical specs as the CompCams 280.Oil pump will be a Melling select high pressure pump,water pump is going to be Electric since this is not going to be a DD and be all manual,and use a low mount alt.Basically there will not be much to see under my hood but engine,such as it is.
Long block.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/longblock001.jpg

[Bone Crusher]

Man those rockers and timing set sure do look pretty

[Bone Crusher]

Oooh and the push rods

[oddball]

Oooh and the push rodsYou already saw yours,This is the SECOND engine,timing set IS pretty though Chris!Those are 1.6's...

[Bone Crusher]

Quit confusing me then....LOL

[Tink]

NICE. Where have I been that I haven't been looking at this thread lately? Work... damn job keeping me too busy for the Planet!

[oddball]

NICE. Where have I been that I haven't been looking at this thread lately? Work... damn job keeping me too busy for the Planet!Thanks Tink,I had to start making time to come to the planet,should be sleeping,but I don't need that much sleep!


I guess I am to the point,or almost to the point that it is time to tear the blazer back a part again.This time it will be on jack stands,just jack stands not pipe racks,because it will be a bare frame and fire wall up front.EVERYTHING is coming off.
Once the engine and trans are out and the front clip has been removed,again,going to pull the whole front end off and replace with all ppm stuff.Pull all the new brake stuff off the 93(bearings/rotors/pads) and put them on here.PARTS NEEDED-Manual steering box and manual brakes master cylinder.I'll play the rest by ear...

[oddball]

Bidding on a full set of c5 brakes,4 calipers,4 rotors,4 brake lines,so 100$

[King_Ice_flash]

That should make it stop! I would like to see what you come up with for brackets. I thought about doing the same thing a while back.

[oddball]

That should make it stop! I would like to see what you come up with for brackets. I thought about doing the same thing a while back.Brackets?Be right back....

[oddball]

C5 conversion brackets, B/G body, S series (http://www.flynbye.com/catalog/i37.html)
Zinc coated steel brackets
Mounting hardware included
Powdercoating available Item #BGSC5Bkt Price $75.00 http://www.flynbye.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/BGSC5Cweb.jpg.w180h135.jpg (http://www.flynbye.com/catalog/i37.html)

[oddball]

So far I'm the only bidder.....

[oddball]

Well,someone wanted those really bad,I lost 'em at 325$,oh well.How is this for prices,set of rears(calipers only)60$ + shipping and 100$ + shipping for a set of fronts w/ abutments?will still have to buy pads and rotors,and prolly lines.Thoughts,opinions?

[87wildside]

Those prices sound good to me.

Not going to get to ship out those brackets for you today. See my post in the whore thread.

[oddball]

Those prices sound good to me.

Not going to get to ship out those brackets for you today. See my post in the whore thread.Bout damn time you answered!lol.I saw you on,was waitin to hear before I went back to the buy it now thing.I hate fukin auctions.No problem bro,when ya get to,it don't get in no bind over leftover parts!

[87wildside]

If you use the rear brackets I'm sending they take 98-02 Camaro or Firebird parts.

[oddball]

If you use the rear brackets I'm sending they take 98-02 Camaro or Firebird parts.Just went back and looked,both sets are rears:(,one set just said c5 the other ones w/ the abutments said 97-04 c5 ls1 calipers,whats the difference or is there?

[87wildside]

Nothing.
I think Persio has a couple of sets of front calipers and abutments.

[oddball]

Nothing.
I think Persio has a couple of sets of front calipers and abutments.
I think you are right,I believe I remember reading that somewhere.Going to go check up on camaro and firebird parts.

[oddball]

100$ for a set of 02 z28 calipers?

[87wildside]

do they come with the abutment brackets?

[oddball]

No,calipers only.

[87wildside]

The abutments are harder to find that's why I asked.

[oddball]

Complete kits for a little over 200$,but I don't need the whole kit.

[87wildside]

http://www.amazon.com/Dorman-619-002-Caliper-Bracket-Assembly/dp/B000C17G5Y%3FSubscriptionId%3D1SMHVJB6RMHMQJTXCX02 %26tag%3Dstreetperformance-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165 953%26creativeASIN%3DB000C17G5Y&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.google.com/products?q=DORMAN+Part+%23+619302&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=yTv1S7PmHoH48Aad-9X9Cg&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CC4QrQQwAA

[oddball]

SO,buy a set of calipers and go to Amazon for the abutments,and you got the rest,other than pads?

[87wildside]

I don't have rotors either, just the backing plate and parking brake stuff. You need the calipers, abutments, pads and rotors.

[oddball]

I don't have rotors either, just the backing plate and parking brake stuff. You need the calipers, abutments, pads and rotors....one part leads to another!lol

[Zygoat]

u two want a room or something?

[manofthehour114]

That engine looks great! There aren't too many guys that build up V6s. I can't wait to see the end result. I was always curious about building up the one in my truck.




u two want a room or something?

LOL!!

[87wildside]

u two want a room or something?http://smiliesftw.com/x/greddygreddy.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

[oddball]

u two want a room or something?You pivot man?

[oddball]

That engine looks great! There aren't too many guys that build up V6s. I can't wait to see the end result. I was always curious about building up the one in my truck.





LOL!!The guy that is building my engine says the term hot rod v6 is an oxymoron,trying to prove him wrong!

[87wildside]

The guy named hotrodv6 is a moron...lol. Long story.

[oddball]

Ok get money order today,in the mail Monday,c5 calipers be here in a couple of weeks,that's the plan(thanks Persio).Still looking for ls1 rear calipers and abutments....anyone?Run over and see my engine builder tomorrow,see how things are going.I know someof you are going"WTF is takin that guy so long"I'm getting a pretty good break on the labor by waiting on him to take care of his more important customers,meaning he is doing mine in his slow time,no big deal.I have more frontend parts to get so I can rebuild it while the engine and front clip are out/off.I know I've said this somewhere before but I'm bored and drinkin guinness.Gotta go look for steel 1st gen rocker arm covers.

[oddball]

Just ordered the ppm tall lower bj's and the delrin lca bushings from Southwest speed.BTW,I'm a dumb ass been searching all over for the Camaro rear brake set up,I forgot,I gots one in the back room,just add blazer and pads.

[Bone Crusher]

haha...you have so many parts you dont even know what you have. Its time for a check list Ricky!

[oddball]

haha...you have so many parts you dont even know what you have. Its time for a check list Ricky!I really wish I was more organ ized,But,I am me,and this is how I do things......Not a real plan,but I do get where I want to go..........eventually!lol.BTW,The brakes were hiding under the UB uca's...:cool:One more thing,actually got an e mail from ppm saying they got my order,and of course took my money,got same from SwS,but they don't take money till they ship.

[oddball]

I gotta stay off ebay!Just bought a 82-87 completely rebuilt floor shift steering column with the wiper delay for 145$,185$ shipped,kinda late to be askin now,but,how is the for price?I thought it was ok,since it is the first one I've seen for my blazer.Either way it's on it's way.

[87wildside]

Shoulda bought mine. Nobody would touch it. sold on egay for like $75 shipped :(

[oddball]

Shoulda bought mine. Nobody would touch it. sold on egay for like $75 shipped :(Didn't know you had one or I would have.Sure would have rather given you the money than someone I don't know!

[oddball]

The delrin lca bushings came in yesterday,That was REALLY fast.Southwest Speed.

[12sws27]

The delrin lca bushings came in yesterday,That was REALLY fast.Southwest Speed.

Why'd you decide to go with the delrin over the steel?

[oddball]

Here is a post from my build thread on pts10 that pretty much helped make up my mind,made sense to me...
"lower bushings I'd go with delrin. Steel is fine for the uppers, but delrin will have just a little bit of give on a really harsh hit that may help keep something from breaking. Avoid poly unless you don't mind getting under it every two to three weeks to grease them. Poly will bind if it's dry. Delrin, depending on the grade, is self lubricating, you could technically do without a brass bushing against the bolt, but you're better off with. If you can get a hold of some, the bolts with zerks and grease passages would be helpful for greasing the brass. That combined with a press in delrin bushing will mean all the rotation will be done in greased brass against steel, and the delrin will just handle lateral loading."

[oddball]

Well,I moved both blazer back home again so I could work on them.removed the back seat and seat belts to make room for the batteries and amps,more on that later.I ordered a new oil pan,timing cover and bolts,mid mount alternator bracket,and a set of valve cover,undecided on which electric water pump to use.I pulled on of the steel valve covers off for a test fit on engine #1 with the 1.52 rockers on it,no good.If it won't clear those it wont clear th1.6's.........SO,as I see it here are my options:
!.A set of these.
http://aussiespeedusa.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=1&category_id=2&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2
2.My engine builder says he thinks he knows someone with aset of sheetmetal cover or can make them.
3.Bust my damn tig rig out and build'em my damn self!they only cost like 23$ a set for the stamped steel,buy 2 sets and make one out of them!

[oddball]

Well got my water pump 115$ shipped.Now all I need is the painless relay harness for it.
http://i.ebayimg.com/13/%21Buj%28jp%21CGk%7E$%28KGrHqYOKiwEvP%28++plnBM%21 yj6YjUg%7E%7E_35.JPG

[87wildside]

Build the covers yourself!

They are all anyone will see when you pop that hood and it's just more bragging rights.

[spideyjected]

Build the covers.

[Zygoat]

build the covers.


i mean X3!

[12sws27]

I'm with stupids^^^^^ Build yer own covers!

[87wildside]

I not stupid, you are :D

[12sws27]

I not stupid, you are :D

Yes I am...but yeah you are two...:p

[87wildside]

*too*

:(...lol

[Bone Crusher]

Yes I am...but yeah you are two...:p


*too*

:(...lol


LMAO

[oddball]

Sometimes....I REALLY wonder about you guys<shakes head>
Ok,first thing I got to do is talk with our machinist,and give him one of the steel covers so he can make a copy of the mating/gasket surface out of plate to accept the thick rubber gasket that those covers use,1/2" plate,that way after the welding they can be put back on the mill and trued up again to remove any warping that will occur.
2 piece,internally recessed flange with a removable top?I think so,that way if I screw up on the bolt holes I only have to scrap the top and not the whole thing.
So when the new set get here I give him one of them for a pattern,and go fron there.I checked yesterday and there is a local store(Atwoods) that has assorted small sheets of light gauge steel that will be perfect for a project like this.This should be interesting.

[87wildside]

You don't need the part to capture the gasket unless you are a homo and never used Indian head gasket glue (or whatever it's called). Glue that sh*t with RTV.

[spideyjected]

Sometimes....

If you only wonder about us SOMETIMES, then I wonder about you (o;

[oddball]

If you only wonder about us SOMETIMES, then I wonder about you (o;Makes me wonder too.

[87wildside]

If you only wonder about us SOMETIMES, then I wonder about you (o;X2


Makes me wonder too.WTF Rick? you callin us homos?...fvcker...lol

[oddball]

X2

WTF Rick? you callin us homos?...fvcker...lolLook homo,I didn't call you a homo,you brought the homo into this conversation,THAT does make me wonder.......lol

[oddball]

The ppm tall lower bj's came in Friday and no one in the office bothered to tell me I had a package!Less than a week from order to delivery,almost as fast as Sw.speed!Timing cover and bolts shipped yesterday(summit),so did the oilpan and the valve covers(CFR performance),all due to show up Friday.I think the steering column shipped yesterday as did the water pump.

[oddball]

Steering column,timing cover and bolts came in yesterday.Water pump,oil pan and rocker arm covers should be here today.Fedex sucks!They bent the sh!t out of the flange that bolts to the floor board,nothing a sfh won't fix,but still....anyway,it looks almost new,hardly any key scratches on it!Glad the turn signal and tilt levers were not on it!

[87wildside]

They bent mine too...lol

Brake parts will be there next week :D

[oddball]

They bent mine too...lol

Brake parts will be there next week :DAt least they are consistent!Ok,cool.If I dont work all weekend,I'll get that sending unit out for ya.

[Zygoat]

wth is an sfh?

[87wildside]

stupid fvcking hammer

[Zygoat]

ooo. i only use a bfh, hence the confusion.

[TreasonAgainstCaesar]

Does the sfh just swing a little slower?

[Zygoat]

or sideways.

[oddball]

wth is an sfh?Small fuking hammer.

[oddball]

Pics of parts listed earlier
I know ya done seen the water pump.Tilt floor shift steering column,both from ebay.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Parts/009.jpghttp://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Parts/014.jpg

Timing cover and bolts from Summit.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Parts/013.jpg

Oil pan and rockerarm covers from CFR Performance.Yes,I am still going to take a shot at building a set of them.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Parts/011.jpghttp://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Parts/012.jpg

Tall lower bj's from PPM
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Parts/010.jpg

Thanks to Persio my c5 calipers will be here next week,thanks bud!
And this should be in next week.http://www.atlanticspeed.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=3729&idcategory=98
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Parts/ZEX_82040.jpg

[Zygoat]

i need to upgrade my brakes badly.

that stuff looks good.

[oddball]

i need to upgrade my brakes badly.

that stuff looks good.Thank you,not really that expensive either. Going to use the c5's on the front that I am getting from Persio,getting the brackets for those from Eric(pee),going to swap rear ends,use the 93's rear since it has the 4 bolt backing plates and put the torsen,3.73's and Lt1 conversion on the it.The girl in the front office is going to get tired of signing for my packages!

[12sws27]

It's like X-mas once a week! :)

[oddball]

It's like X-mas once a week! :)Nice to have only 2 bills to pay and make decent money.

[rentedmule]

I have a progressive N2O controller that would go great with that setup....

[oddball]

I have a progressive N2O controller that would go great with that setup....Really...........................

[rentedmule]

I have a jacob's mastermind - timing retard, window switch, fuel pressure safety switch and progressive controller in one. With the move I'm offloading lots of my parts so I don't have to move them. The plastic cover on the side is cracked but it is new so I assume it works

[oddball]

I have a jacob's mastermind - timing retard, window switch, fuel pressure safety switch and progressive controller in one. With the move I'm offloading lots of my parts so I don't have to move them. The plastic cover on the side is cracked but it is new so I assume it workspm sent.

[oddball]

Cool, I like a good nitrous build.Only weak spot I can see is the crank and the mains,but,if the sy-ty guys can do what they do,I should have no problem with 400-425hp on the lower end.......we'll see.

[oddball]

Just in from Fla. ,thanks Persio!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Parts/001.jpg

[Bone Crusher]

Damn he didnt even clean them up for you....WTH?!

LMFAO

[oddball]

Little brake and clutch cleaner,red caliper paint,and a tiger disc,look like new.Brackets rotors,pads,and hubs,I'll be in business.This all started with some bad o-rings............

[firefighter]

Damn he didnt even clean them up for you....WTH?!

LMFAO



WTH? Was I supposed to buff them? LOL

Actually Thank You Ricky.

Just as an FYI, if you are looking to get rid of the Vette logo all it takes is about 5min with a DA sander and some 220 grit.

[oddball]

WTH? Was I supposed to buff them? LOL

Actually Thank You Ricky.

Just as an FYI, if you are looking to get rid of the Vette logo all it takes is about 5min with a DA sander and some 220 grit.No,actually,I think the corvette peekin out from behind the c5 wheels will look good.The tiger disk was just to take the paint of the corvette after I paint them.

[TreasonAgainstCaesar]

I agree--leave the 'corvette' on 'em.

[oddball]

I agree--leave the 'corvette' on 'em.Right!takin the vet of 'em would be like buyin a set of brembo's and takin the brembo off....

[oddball]

Waiting on the alt bracket from Summit and the zex from Atlantic Speed......and some un-engine related goodies from Ks.;)

[BigTruckDrivah]

damn, all new tin, brackets, i cant wait to see this thing together.

[oddball]

damn, all new tin, brackets, i cant wait to see this thing together.That makes 2 of us.

[12sws27]

I can wait....mainly because I have to....I really don't want to wait though...

So Ricky....when are we gonna see things start coming together? Your truck is going to be fun! :)

[oddball]

I can wait....mainly because I have to....I really don't want to wait though...

So Ricky....when are we gonna see things start coming together? Your truck is going to be fun! :)Patience young jedi<best drunk yoda voice>.........always wanted to type that.......A few more things have to come in from various parts of the country before it all comes together,Believe it or not,there is a method to my madness.The engine is basically completed.Last time I talked to my machinist he was finishing up gasket matching the intake.BTW,the Fedex guy was here yesterday,
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Parts/N20001.jpg

[Bone Crusher]

This thing is going to be nasty

[oddball]

This thing is going to be nastyLooking for unsuspecting mushtangs........awww,come on,it's just an old 2dr blazer w/ a v6.........flips arming switch........

[Bone Crusher]

Yes the gas is very fun but too addicting for me. I was filling up a bottle 1 to 2 times a week.

[oddball]

Yes the gas is very fun but too addicting for me. I was filling up a bottle 1 to 2 times a week.I suspected as much!Good thing it aint going to be driven a lot!

[oddball]

BTW,found another 1st gen 2dr prolly going to buy.Maybe an Ls?

[oddball]

Yes the gas is very fun but too addicting for me. I was filling up a bottle 1 to 2 times a week.NOTE TO SELF:NEED MORE BOTTLES.

[Zygoat]

Yes the gas is very fun but too addicting for me. I was filling up a bottle 1 to 2 times a week.

bet that got expensive.

[oddball]

bet that got expensive.Hmm,have no idea how much it even costs to fill the bottle,for that matter WHERE to get it filled,more notes to self...

[87wildside]

BTW,found another 1st gen 2dr prolly going to buy.Maybe an Ls?
They even have a carb intake for them :D

[oddball]

They even have a carb intake for them :DEdelbrock 2111,this one has already had an engine swap,it is a 4.3 not a 2.8,w/ tbi.Going to be dd.......I SWEAR..............I will only do the servicing on it.No drop,nitrous,nothing...........It'll be here tomorrow........

[oddball]

Oh yeah,one more thing,prolly picking engine up from engine shop next weekend.My builder said that if I wanted to build a 4.71 blown 4.3,I had to find someone else to build it he would not do it,something about pissing that much money away on a v6........

[Tink]

We would build it for you... as you know we piss our money away on motors no one else would give the time of day. ;)

[firefighter]

LOL Tink.....

[87wildside]

Edelbrock 2111,this one has already had an engine swap,it is a 4.3 not a 2.8,w/ tbi.Going to be dd.......I SWEAR..............I will only do the servicing on it.No drop,nitrous,nothing...........It'll be here tomorrow........I ment for the LSx...:D

[oddball]

I ment for the LSx...:DOh,ok.Yeah the Ls is still just a thought,have other trucks to build before that thought even fully surfaces.454 s10 is next.

[firefighter]

How about a 454 LSx?

[oddball]

We would build it for you... as you know we piss our money away on motors no one else would give the time of day. ;)Thank you Tink,My engine builder is a v8 guy,and very good at what he does,not really open to the idea of highly modded v6's,says hot rod v6 is an oxymoron.I disagree.Owww.....305 remarks?lol.point taken.

[87wildside]

How about a 454 LSx?X2. Easy if you have $ to spend. Hey Rick, you need help spending more money like you did on the front end just let me know bud :) I'll build my dream truck through you :D

[oddball]

X2. Easy if you have $ to spend. Hey Rick, you need help spending more money like you did on the front end just let me know bud :) I'll build my dream truck through you :DAfter the drive train is completed,then the suspension phase starts,so far what I have gathered up for the front end is just the beginning,The budget for this blazer is when ever I decide to quit spending money on it.BTW,does UBM have part#'s for the tubular lca's on the blazers or do I have to call and talk to Tony again?I have no concept of moderashun,and have very few billsLeaves quite a bit to play with!

[Tink]

Thank you Tink,My engine builder is a v8 guy,and very good at what he does,not really open to the idea of highly modded v6's,says hot rod v6 is an oxymoron.I disagree.Owww.....305 remarks?lol.point taken.

To me that is odd... true hot rods started out as small motors - small bore V8s, V6s, straight 6s. I'd love to build a 4.3L, but don't have anything to put it in... maybe my Camaro?

[oddball]

To me that is odd... true hot rods started out as small motors - small bore V8s, V6s, straight 6s. I'd love to build a 4.3L, but don't have anything to put it in... maybe my Camaro?Need another dime?I just got another one,like I really need it!If you come get it,I'd even let go of the s10(82 or 83,not sure which)lol.Some think that if it aint a big bore v8 it's a waste of money,I actually love the sound of many small pistons maving REALLY fast,that is why I really hope this engine will make power up to at least 6500rpm,should be real close to it,7000 would be so cool!really don't see it though.

[Tink]

LOL. I'd love to have the Blue one... it matches mine. ;) Too bad you are so far away. Unfortunately, I don't have the $ for another project right now as the tranny is suspect in the 4 door.

I'd love to build more small bore V8s, just to see what they can do...

[oddball]

LOL. I'd love to have the Blue one... it matches mine. ;) Too bad you are so far away. Unfortunately, I don't have the $ for another project right now as the tranny is suspect in the 4 door.

I'd love to build more small bore V8s, just to see what they can do...I got a spare 700r,think it's been worked on,very solid 1-2 shift,does not just "slide" into any gear,yup,to bad you are so far away.lol.I'm kinda like that right now with the v6.

[oddball]

Summit finally shipped my alt. bracket,2 weeks later.Going to use Atlantic Speed from now on.

[87wildside]

I finally shipped your caliper brackets and the LS1 backing plates...lol. Sorry it took so long but that was a heavy box to carry for 4 miles. :D

0309 1830 0000 8849 0562
http://trkcnfrm1.smi.usps.com/PTSInternetWeb/InterLabelInquiry.do

[Bone Crusher]

cool we can all track it together.....LOL

[Jongo88]

LOL.. I just did that...:D

[87wildside]

See, I do live in Newark :D

[firefighter]

funny chit..... lol

[Zygoat]

im tracking it too, that way ill know when its delivered and i can take if off your porch before you get home.

[87wildside]

That's a far ass drive...

[Jongo88]

Yea it is...:D

[oddball]

im tracking it too, that way ill know when its delivered and i can take if off your porch before you get home.Tis quite dangerous to enter my yard and try and snag said parts.

[oddball]

I finally shipped your caliper brackets and the LS1 backing plates...lol. Sorry it took so long but that was a heavy box to carry for 4 miles. :D

0309 1830 0000 8849 0562
http://trkcnfrm1.smi.usps.com/PTSInternetWeb/InterLabelInquiry.do
DAMN ERIC!Just come down and I'll give ya the damn blazer,You gotta buy the gas though to get home!

[BigTruckDrivah]

ive already told him to come get my truck before i hack it up too bad. he said it was too far to ride. :(

[oddball]

ive already told him to come get my truck before i hack it up too bad. he said it was too far to ride. :(1st gen are meant to be chopped up,I aint even got started yet.Ride,as in pedal?

[87wildside]

1st gen are meant to be chopped up,I aint even got started yet.Second gens make you cut them
Ride,as in pedal?Yes :D

[BigTruckDrivah]

start peddlin before my truck is a total loss. lol

[rentedmule]

Hey Ricky - I sent the nitrous controller yesterday afternoon but I forgot the tracking # at home. I'll get it to you ASAP

[oddball]

Hey Ricky - I sent the nitrous controller yesterday afternoon but I forgot the tracking # at home. I'll get it to you ASAPThanks Tyson!Told my engine builder I had a controller coming and he said that was a very wise investment for the amount of nitrous that I was about to use!lol

[oddball]

Second gens make you cut themYes :DThat is why I like the 1st gens,they were made to chop up and mod,2nd gens make you chop 'em up.......then throw 'em away and get a 1st gen!lol

[oddball]

Well the alternator mount finally came in,now I got to order the drive kit for it,one part leads to another!Nitrous controller will be here soon,thanks Tyson!After more research it appears that to make sure my engine lives long enough to make it to the dyno,there is quite a bit that goes into making a safe delivery of 125hp shot of n2o,the sticky in sprayed section is very informative,I hope this is not a plumbing nightmare!May have a "HELP!" thread in sprayed section!lol.It appears that the trunion bearings on the ultra pro magnum rocker arms are MUCH bigger than on the regular pro magnum rockers,the braces inside the rocker arm covers won't fit between the rocker arms,going to cut them out and do some work inside,if that don't work.....back to building my own,which if our machine shop don't get up and running soon is out of the question,or ordering from down under,300$ plus shipping later!Ehh it's only money!

[87wildside]

Did you get the caliper brackets? :D

[oddball]

not yet,prolly today,you'll know.....pics!

[87wildside]

Your item was delivered at 1:10 PM on June 21, 2010 in KILGORE, TX 75662. :o

[oddball]

:oREALLY?I looked for it in the office!Worthless b!tches what did they do with my parts!

[BigTruckDrivah]

Your soo close I could spit on ya Ricky. We need to meet up.

[87wildside]

I'll fvcking kill them cause I didn't put insurance on it...

[BigTruckDrivah]

I'll fvcking kill them cause I didn't put insurance on it...

while your down here, can i add someone else to that list? :cool:

[oddball]

I'll fvcking kill them cause I didn't put insurance on it...Put the machete away,they came in yesterday!Newest batch of parts in from yankee land!lol.
C5 brackets and ls1 backing plates.Pics.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Parts/camerapics3006.jpg
BTW,there is a funny story that goes with this!get the Paul Harvey in VIP!

[oddball]

Your soo close I could spit on ya Ricky. We need to meet up.DUDE!I have said the same thing to you a couple of times,my number is in vip,gimme a call and we'll try to meet up.Looks like I may have the WHOLE 4th weekend off.

[BigTruckDrivah]

Hell ya niccah!

[oddball]

Hell ya niccah!Never had GF out for a long ride,that would be a good one.Don't know my way around over there you would have to meet me someplace easy to find.

[oddball]

Just came from the machine shop,engine is all buttoned up,valve covers and all,so,the stock valve cover DO fit over the ultra pro magnum rocker arms with some trimming in the bracing on the inside of them, finish paying that up and next comes the trans,while trying to get every thing figured out for the front end and brakes while all the sheetmetal is off.

[Hammer Head]

Sweet!

[BigTruckDrivah]

Nice. We should meet up in Dallas. Maybe go to a comedy club or something.

[oddball]

That would be cool,but I aint too fond of getting too far away from her,specially in the DFW area.

[Tink]

Pictures of the motor?? ;)

[oddball]

Pictures of the motor?? ;)I forgot my stupid phone when I went over there yesterday,kinda glad I did though,was a VERY soggy ride home!He is supposed to send me some today.Not really much to look at,all black except for the intake,the electric water pump,and the red bowtie and "Chevrolet" on the timing cover.It does look very nice with all the new sheet metal though.

[oddball]

I have the Zexel and 3.73's.I'm going to put the zexel in for sure,not so sure about the 3.73's though.My engine builder made a good point the other day.I am getting rid of the 700r for a th350,no more overdrive.So the th350 with the 3.73's would keep the engine wound pretty tight most all the time,AND,I would have to go through the whole setting up the gears thing vs. just swapping in the zexel and putting the shims back where they came from for the 3.42's.Any thoughts on this?

[oddball]

255/40/17=Front ,275/40/18=Rear

[oddball]

Going to order parts to finish c5 conversion on front,are these what I am going to need,plus rotors and pads and lines?
http://www.flynbye.com/catalog/i137.html
Rotors should just be able to go to the parts house and ask for 97-04 vette rotors,right?Recommendations for pads.any ideas on the lines to get?

[oddball]

Jacobs Nitrous Mastermind came in from Canada yesterday,Thanks Tyson!

[oddball]

Ok,well,here it is approximately 2500$ later,and this is what I have,actually I built 2 of them for that,this does not include the head work.I think I have done pretty good so far,still not done.Pics.I'll have better pics after I go pick it up.My machinist sent mr these via cheap phone!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/Newengine001.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/Newengine002.jpg

[Bone Crusher]

Sweet

[spideyjected]

Ok,well,here it is approximately 2500$ later,and this is what I have,actually I built 2 of them for that,this does not include the head work.I think I have done pretty good so far,still not done.Pics.I'll have better pics after I go pick it up.My machinist sent mr these via cheap phone!
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/Newengine001.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/Newengine002.jpg
Wrong oil pan for my truck Ricky. Don't worry, I'll change it out. :D

[firefighter]

looks badass Ricky.

[oddball]

I guess it looks as badass as a v6 can.lol.Staying away from chrome,prolly going to paint the water pump black and paint the Weiand red like the bowtie and Chevrolet on the timing cover.and leave the intake as is.I actually have the whole weekend off,going to attempt to get some stuff done.Gotta go buy an engine stand and 4 sets of jack stands.

[oddball]

looks badass Ricky.Thanks Persio.

[oddball]

Wrong oil pan for my truck Ricky. Don't worry, I'll change it out. :DI have 2 more 4.3's they all have the wrong pan:(

[oddball]

Went and picked up my engine today,bolted the JBA's to it,had to see what they looked like on it,taped off all the holes and shrink wrapped it,going to get the th350 out and ready to got to the shop this week.When it comes back it should have the converter with it(3200 stall) and have the mid length tail shaft on it,that way I won't have to change the drive shaft,at least that is what I am told.New Holley will be here Monday.Still several things to get :
1)New radiator,going to have to modify the core support for that though,I believe the one I am going to get is about 3" taller than stock.
2)Manual steering box
3)Manual Master cylinder
4)Make a decision on what shifter to use with the th350
5)Finish gathering the parts for the c5 swap.Tried calling Flynbye and emailing and got a response to neither.Fuk it, I'll go somewhere else.
6)Engine mounts,may try building those,Was going to buy the Baja Customs,rethinking that after the problems DOJ had with them.
Other than the engine mounts none of the above will stop the installation of the engine and trans,but am going to hold off because much of it will be much simpler without the engine in the way,such as the brakes,control arms/bushings/ball joints,yall get the picture.I'm sure there are things that I am forgetting but that is more than enough for right now,still got to get the blinkers fixed on the 88 so I can get it all legal. ANYWAY,pics.
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/homeagain001.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/homeagain002.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/homeagain005.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/homeagain006.jpg

Sleeping,dreaming,patiently waiting on it's first taste of 93 octane and laughing gas...
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq56/oddball0757/Engine2/homeagain007.jpg

[oddball]

Keep trying to get outside to work on the blazers,every time I set foot out the door it starts raining harder,and both shops are full!

[Bone Crusher]

Engine is looking sexy!!!

[oddball]

Thanks Chris,It will look much sexier sittin in the engine bay all dressed up.

[Dogsofjune]

5)Finish gathering the parts for the c5 swap.Tried calling Flynbye and emailing and got a response to neither.Fuk it, I'll go somewhere else.
6)Engine mounts,may try building those,Was going to buy the Baja Customs,rethinking that after the problems DOJ had with them.


Welcome to my world. Nobody has **** for these things.

Get the Baja motor mounts, just be prepared to modify them to work. Still a good buy. Doubt you will find better out there.

[oddball]

Welcome to my world. Nobody has **** for these things.

Get the Baja motor mounts, just be prepared to modify them to work. Still a good buy. Doubt you will find better out there.Really all I want from Flynbye is the hubs,but I think our machine shop is up and running.I'm going to talk to our machinist and see if he can turn the rotors off and make me a set of hubs out of the rotors I have,Eric sent me the the measurements on how to have them cut.If he can cut them down you want a set,I got plenty of rotors!I have no problem modifying crap right out of the box,I have the whole front clip off(just finished removing it 30 minutes ago) so it won't be that big of a deal,I don't think those are made for a 1st gen any how,but they will be when I get finished.I gotta learn how to run a Bridgeport,we have some very thick chunks of A106 out back.

[12sws27]

I want your water pump. :)

[oddball]

I want your water pump. :)It's only 16gpm,but considering that the 4.3 only holds about 3(+-) gallons of coolant it has the ability to change the water in the block and radiator almost 6 times a minute,more than sufficient.That was the very 1st on on the list at egay when I looked for electric water pumps.115$ shipped.Think I did pretty good.BTW,sorry,NO,you can't have it.lol

[12sws27]

It's only 16gpm,but considering that the 4.3 only holds about 3(+-) gallons of coolant it has the ability to change the water in the block and radiator almost 6 times a minute,more than sufficient.That was the very 1st on on the list at egay when I looked for electric water pumps.115$ shipped.Think I did pretty good.BTW,sorry,NO,you can't have it.lol
Well at $115 I might just be able to get my own one day. Maybe in the far future I'll do a e-fan/e-water pump all at the same time. Probably do a Alt upgrade while I'm at it I guess. Sound like a future product to me. Now off to find that part # I said I'd find that I forgot all about.....:o

[oddball]

With the e-fans I got from D Caf,the e-water pump and the rad that I think I am going to use,it should stay quite cool,The rad is a couple of inches narrower but about 3" taller all aluminum triple pass.http://www.daymotorsports.com/product/1401/PRO-TEK_TRI-PASS_RADIATORS

[12sws27]

Are you just installing the zexel or gears too?

[oddball]

Just the zexel,keeping the 3.42's.

[12sws27]

Just the zexel,keeping the 3.42's.

So all you really need is Carrier bearing part numbers and maybe axle seals if they're leaking. One sec...I'm digging right now. I'll have it in a sec...or minute..or 5...:)

[oddball]

Yeah,using the th350 so no more od,3.42's should keep the rpm's up pretty high as is.Going to do all the bearings and seals since I am going to have it apart anyway.

[12sws27]

Yeah,using the th350 so no more od,3.42's should keep the rpm's up pretty high as is.Going to do all the bearings and seals since I am going to have it apart anyway.
If you end up changing all the bearings and seals then you'll have to set up pinoin depth and everything that is involved with changing gears. So it's either a lot of work or more money you have to pay someone to do it for you. I personally wouldn't spend much on a rear that might not hold up. I'd just get carrier bearings/races and only change the other stuff if it's needed.

I ordered this kit way back when I thought I was going to install the 3.73's. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MGR-R75GRMKT/

IDK yet what just the part# for the bearing is. I thought I had it some where but I can't find it...still looking though. I do know you could just go right down to auto zone and get them. Don't go to Advanced. They don't have Timken bearings.

[firefighter]

If you are going to do all that especially to a 7.625 rear use a SOLID PINION SPACER instead of the crush sleeve/spacer gimmick.

[oddball]

If you end up changing all the bearings and seals then you'll have to set up pinoin depth and everything that is involved with changing gears. So it's either a lot of work or more money you have to pay someone to do it for you. I personally wouldn't spend much on a rear that might not hold up. I'd just get carrier bearings/races and only change the other stuff if it's needed.

I ordered this kit way back when I thought I was going to install the 3.73's. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MGR-R75GRMKT/

IDK yet what just the part# for the bearing is. I thought I had it some where but I can't find it...still looking though. I do know you could just go right down to auto zone and get them. Don't go to Advanced. They don't have Timken bearings.I see what you are saying,might wait on that,my boss says he has a 9" out of a bronco,going to see what the measurements on it are before I get really involved in this rear end.

Persio,If I use this,where would I find this solid spacer at?

[firefighter]

Try these guys they are a pretty good source for all things differential.


http://www.drivetrainspecialists.com/categories/gm/gm-75/products/product-1781.html

[12sws27]

I see what you are saying,might wait on that,my boss says he has a 9" out of a bronco,going to see what the measurements on it are before I get really involved in this rear end.

Persio,If I use this,where would I find this solid spacer at?

I got one I can send ya. I also got part of and install kit. But IMO, if you're gonna dump money into a rear, might as well be one that is going to hold up to a lot of abuse.

That why all I did was throw a $100 Zexel in mine and called in a day. If I start getting real serious, I'll get a 8.5 Gm, 12 bolt GM, 8.8 or 9" ford.

I here you can shorten a 8.8 explorer rear easy. Not sure but I think only one side needs to be shorted because the diff is off center. That's only if you really want it to be the same length your 7.65 is. I've seen a lot of guys just bolt them in there the way they are.

I'm sure it wouldn't cost anymore to have a 8.8 shorted, and the axles drilled for a GM lug pattern then it would to mess around building a 7.65.

[oddball]

I agree.May go over to the bosses house and measure the 9",I'll never know if I wait on him!lol.I think I'll pull the one out of the 93,put the zexel in it,and like you said,call it a day,see how well it holds up.

[firefighter]

That's what I did too. Threw a zexel in it and when it goes I'll have to do the 8.625" I got sitting there.

[oddball]

Yup,that sounds like the plan.it should hold up for a while anyhow.

[oddball]

Funny how we buy other parts,we really don't need and have them "sitting there" just in case the one we have breaks,in reality we are hoping the one we have breaks giving us an excuse to upgrade!

[firefighter]

Funny how we buy other parts,we really don't need and have them "sitting there" just in case the one we have breaks,in reality we are hoping the one we have breaks giving us an excuse to upgrade!

absolutely...... lol