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s10cyncrvr
11-08-04, 06:07 PM
I thought I would write this up because it has to be one of the most asked questions about the S-Series trucks. If the administrator thinks it is worthy of a sticky, please make it one.

A majority of 2nd Gen S-series trucks have a problem of the driver-side being lower then the passenger side. This has been called the "Chevy Lean." There are many threads on forum boards as to why this occurs and how to fix it. Often times the information is untrue and people get confused. I've done a lot of research on this topic and have came up with the following information...

1) Does your truck have the "chevy lean"
Almost all trucks do. I have had some people tell me theirs dosn't but everyone I owned has. The lean isn't very noticeable when your truck is stock height, but after you drop it the distance between the tire and fender decreases and it becomes more apparent. The only way to know for sure is to measure from the ground to the highest spot on the fender lip at every corner. You'll probably find that your drivers side is approx. .5" to 1" lower then your passenger side. If it doesn't lean before you drop it, it shouldn't lean after you drop it. If it does lean before you drop it, then it will most likely lean after you drop it.

2) What causes "chevy lean"
This I'm not 100% sure on. The best theory I have heard to date is that the lower control arm spring pockets were stamped differently. There are a lot of myths about what causes it which include: gas tank on the drivers side, your always sitting on the drivers side so the springs wear faster, you have bad shocks, or that it was caused by lowering components. These for the most part are all untrue. Although, always check to make sure your suspension components are in good condition. If your truck is older with high-mileage then it may be that your springs are worn on the drivers side. Put your new suspension components on and re-measure. Also, if someone has lowered it before you, make sure the springs are seated properly in the pockets.

3) How do I fix it
The best way to fix it and level out your truck is to buy a spacer that Belltech sells. part # BEL-4930. Summit sells it along with numerous other companies. This is a 1/2" polyurethane spacer that sits on top of the driverside front coilspring. It will raise the driverside of the vehicle up 1/2" in the front and the rear will raise up some too. Usually this will be enough to level the truck or make it less noticeable. It can be tricky to get in so here are some tips.

- Leave the rubber isolater on the bottom of the coil spring and remove the rubber isolater from the top of the coil spring. This will allow the spacer to slip further down into the spring for better stability.
- Tape or ziptie the spacer to the top of the coil spring. It will want to move around when you try to install it so really get it tight on the coil spring.
- When you install the spring make sure it is seated properly on top. the spacer and the coil should both tuck up into the cup in the frame. Sometimes it feels like it pops into place but when you look it has shifted. Take your time, this is the hardest part of the installation. Using a coilspring compressor greatly helps the installation process.

I don't recommend cutting your passenger side coil to level it out. First, it will cause a different springrate between your two front springs and second, the inner fender is tighter on the passenger side beacuse of the AC box and you may run into issues with rubbing.

4) How do I know if I fixed it
After installation remeasure your height at all 4 corners. If it lifted more then 1/2" on the drivers side, make sure you have the spring seated properly. Give the suspension a few days to settle and remeasure and compare the measurements to your previous ones. After the spacer install my driver's side is till 1/4" lower then my passenger side. This isn't very noticeable at all and should be nothing to worry about.

Hopefully that answers all your questions but if you still have something you are unsure about, post a new thread and someone will try to answer it.

Blazer69
11-08-04, 06:25 PM
wow i have actually had people tell me my truck leans slightly to the right side but i never noticed...maybe it does...

bvr775
11-08-04, 06:41 PM
belltech makes a coil spacer to correct this. call up summit and get the part #. it's cheap and you only need one.

bvr775
11-08-04, 06:42 PM
never mind he posted the part #, but you still have to call because it's not listed in their catalog

ZR1-S10
11-09-04, 12:14 AM
Yeah that's worthy of being a sticky!

XxInFaxX
11-09-04, 04:04 AM
good writeup

T Man
11-09-04, 09:22 AM
i have got a hardcore chevy lean, but suprisingly it is only in the back.

black03zq8
11-09-04, 02:32 PM
No lean here, figured I was going to have one, but once I was done dropping it the damn thing was level. Surprised me cause all my friend's s-10s have the "chevy lean"

By the way nice post man.

T Man
11-09-04, 04:24 PM
if it doesnt lean, it doesnt say chevy!, and it is a pimp lean, not a gimp lean

black03zq8
11-09-04, 04:33 PM
Maybe I have a lean its just not bad enough for anyone to notice. :D

WikedLizard
11-11-04, 12:20 PM
Will that part work for both the silvy and the dime, or just the dime?

Maxx
11-11-04, 12:59 PM
Didn't the zq8's come with a spacer from factory? Well at least the newer ones?

black03zq8
11-11-04, 01:25 PM
Didn't the zq8's come with a spacer from factory? Well at least the newer ones?


Didn't ever think about that, but it's very possible. Like I said I have no noticable lean from the factory stance or after I lowered it more.

s10cyncrvr
11-11-04, 04:41 PM
Didn't the zq8's come with a spacer from factory? Well at least the newer ones?

No. I've known people with ZQ8's that had the lean.



Will that part work for both the silvy and the dime, or just the dime?

I've never heard anyone saying they had problems with the fullsize trucks. The part was designed for the S-Series trucks.

Hammer
01-27-05, 08:17 AM
let me get this right, it is the spring pocket in the lower control arm of the the passenger side is lower than the driverside? I did some measuring myslef this fall and i didn't check the control arms pockets, but i found the upper control arm was farther from the ground than the driverside upper c-arm was. i actually thought that it was the location of the c-arm on the frame. the spring pocket makes sense and an easy manfct screw up. i will have to check again this spring but i believe that the whole suspension setup is located higher on the passenger side. like the upper c-arm blots/brackets are not the same as the passenger side or located the same.

StaticDime96
04-29-05, 11:15 PM
mine barely leans

lowriderbowtie
05-30-05, 10:13 AM
you can also shorten the passenger side spacer sleeve on the endlink bolt for the sway bar and tighten the bolt back up. you will need to chace some more threads on the bolt, or just go buy a new one that is threaded all the way. I solved my lean by doing this back when i was 4/5...but now i only have about 1/16 to 1/8 of a lean, so i dont worry about it.

chevysdime98
06-01-05, 01:07 PM
haha i have a huge lean i havent measured it but if i put a ball on my tonneau cover it flys off the drivers side...n im not talkin just rollin off, im talkin some serious speed haha...n when it comes to the front end i can fit 2 fingers under the drivers side n 4 on the passenger, so yea theres a difference....i always thought it was that the drivers side spring was harder cuz theres always a driver but hey what do i know (not much to be honest haha)

91_4_door
02-23-06, 11:05 AM
my blazer doesn't lean, but we just lowered my buddies 78 Sierra Grande and he leans to the passenger side. Bout an inch difference. lol guess i should read posting dates. before i just jump in with both feet.

89walkthru
12-02-06, 06:13 PM
mines lowered and I've got a really heavy "pimp lean" in the back. I thought that there was something wrong with my truck, I feel better now though

LS1SLEEPER
12-02-06, 08:19 PM
just a side note. the lean isnt just the S-series truck and blazers. and it IS only on the drivers side rear. it is common on ALL rwd chevy cars and trucks. the problem is in the design of the rear suspention geometry. for some odd unanswerd reason its designd that way because the suspension sits level on the ground and the body sits un level. so the off set the difference in the suspesion to give the body the appeared STRAIGHT look. i have had a 67 chevy truck with trailing arms and pan hard bar (stock) lowered a 72 chevy truck lowered with leafs a 75 malibu classic 76 malibu classic an 85 swb full size truck an 87 monte ss. all dropped and all had the lean. even my 86 S10 blazer. at 1/2 drop i couldnt see it. now with the 5/5 drop you can see it a mile away. even my 2000 blazer has it. i dropped it 5/5 on weekend to see what it would look like. i loved it but it still had the lean. i rose it back up because i work out of it every day. and now no lean.

Hammer Head
12-02-06, 08:27 PM
I guess that would explain why my front left is lower since I added the traction bars (w/ a little preload). It must have straightened the rear the same amount & threw the problem forward. Makes sense.

1993blazerlt
12-02-06, 11:10 PM
another reason for the lean is the use of a side gas tank, when full thats a lot of extra weight on the drivers side, plus the drivers seat has a person in it more than the pasanger seat leads to the springs wearing quicker

baggedandcaddied
12-03-06, 03:24 PM
wow talk about digging up and old thread