flipped rear leaf spring

[trips10]

Ive been reading the different post on lowering the rear and read about fliping a leaf over i had a datsun truck that was that way an was fine so my qustion is will it work on my 92 s10 the same. an witch one do i flip

[Big Mack Daddy]

To answer your question, I don't know. In my opinion, if you want to do it on the cheap side, go to autozone and get a set of the $40 lift/lowering blocks and install them. Much easier to do than taking the leaf pack apart...

[BigTruckDrivah]

X2

[trips10]

whats the most block u should run cause its a daily driver but i want to just about scrapin leavel

[Big Mack Daddy]

I would probably go with a 2-3'' block, 2'' will make the truck level (provided the truck is factory height) and a 3'' will make the back 1'' lower than the front.

[neo71665]

You can't flip the leaf on a s-series and even remotely have a good ride. I think there is way too much arch and it will sit the frame on the axle.

Get blocks and don't forget to cut the rear bump stop.

[trips10]

what about pulling a leaf, i got the main +1 and an overload

[Big Mack Daddy]

It's been done before but:

1. You will lose significant ride quality

2. You will lose hauling capacity

3. I think it is only the 4 leaf pack you can remove a leaf from.

I say just go with the blocks and save yourself the hassle.

[trips10]

well i dont lissen very well i fliped my springs an got a 5in drop with no blocks so when its all done it'll be 7 drop with a 2in block

[neo71665]

Oh we got a new one for our thread

[87wildside]

5" drop?
Hell I got springs from a Z83 truck and they have about a 12-16" arch (i'll take pic in the morning).....so, that being said....

http://smiliesftw.com/x/huge_bs_flag.gif

BTW, a spring flip is when you go from either over to under or the reverse. Either for drop or lift depending on the vehicle...not flipping the god damn springs over.

[87wildside]

TrueShhhhhhh!!
Tommy don't like that thread :shake_125

[trips10]

not the hole pack just 1 to dearch them. So if u got 4 srings in a pack or 3 u take the spring pack apart. Then u take the leaf just under the mono leaf an flip it the oppisit way to form a foot ball shape then bolt them all back together an by doing so it flatins spring to lower them. I use to race dirt track in minis and thats how we us to run them and it worked.
RIDE QUALITY depends on shock prefrence QA1 makes a good one or most aftermarket shocks work :o

[TreasonAgainstCaesar]

Pictures of your end result might help.

[Jongo88]

:fcad0cab:

[trips10]

i tride to post pic.s yesterday an i couldnt figure it out so ill try again today ive been taken pics the hole time ive been working on it so got plenty to show

[87wildside]

Ohhh. I thought you flipped the whole spring over...lol Sorry man.

[Mikz86TA]

Sounds as if it puts alot of stress on the springs and would fatigue them

[Jongo88]

i tride to post pic.s yesterday an i couldnt figure it out so ill try again today ive been taken pics the hole time ive been working on it so got plenty to show
Remember.. the search button is your friend..
To post pictures check this out..http://www.s10planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12652&highlight=post+pictures

[trips10]

thank for the info as soon as my sister comes back with the camra ill post all the pic.s ive taken ive got a bunch

[neo71665]

Sounds as if it puts a lot of stress on the springs and would fatigue them



And we have a winner



thank for the info as soon as my sister comes back with the camra ill post all the pic.s ive taken ive got a bunch


Pics of said sister????

[daily driven]

looks great just finished helping trips10 on his rear drop trying to get some pic camera bat was dead and hey neo dont like the comment about my wife find your own women

[spideyjected]

looks great just finished helping trips10 on his rear drop trying to get some pic camera bat was dead and hey neo dont like the comment about my wife find your own women
Thicker skin is needed. We joke around and have fun here, it's what we do.

[daily driven]

Thicker skin is needed. We joke around and have fun here, it's what we do.

its all good just flipping him some back! and trips at my house, hes my lil brother
we finished the rear last night at midnight now just got the front

[Jay-Sliver]

So is this a sister in law? Cuz the rest of this doesn't make sense.



And you counter with.





You see where we lose the relation pattern here. Trips sister is your wife and he's your brother.


My god we just went Springer...... ;)

LOL!
JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

Sorry, had to.

Jay

[daily driven]

Yes, to straighten it out trip is my lil bro and my wife is his sister in-law
sorry bout the mix up

[neo71665]

and i"ve still yet seen any pics of a truck or woman

[trips10]

i got busy workin on my truck didnt make time to post pic.s will try tomarrow been busy sorry

[trips10]

pic.s

[87wildside]

Sooooo.
Where is this chick at lol

[neo71665]

Sooooo.
Where is this chick at lol



:D

[87wildside]

I hope she has big titties.

[87wildside]

http://smiliesftw.com/x/hooray-boobs.gifhttp://smiliesftw.com/x/oh_look_boobs.gif

[trips10]

now now tits drop too but were here 4 s10 suspension.
my brother would probly have a hisie tit if i show pic of his ol lady
lol lol:D:D:D

[trips10]

back to the pic's the rear is done on a fliped leaf an its lowered it about 5.5in dosent look bad for free just my time (an daily drivers)

[87wildside]

Doesn't look safe to me.....

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz206/littlejeff27/leafs001.jpg

[87wildside]

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f12/flipped-leaf-springs-435745/

[87wildside]

And I didn't even post in in it. Aren't you proud of me, Dan? lol

[spideyjected]

My leafs will be flipped one day...




...But the truck will be on it's roof when they are flipped(o;

[CowardlyDawg]

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f12/flipped-leaf-springs-435745/


Jesus, the idiots on that site are rough man. Much more relaxed here lol

[Slacker1357]

Oh dear lord...
I already dont like the way some people lower there vehicles, or even lift them..
But this whole leaf flip thing is new to me...
Why... just why?...
Just seems senseless.
and I dont care if someone has been riding on them for a year...
I agree with that other guy: "Just because you can, doesnt mean you should"
You do this for a cheap drop? If you cant afford the drop, then you cant afford the possible F- ups either... leave it stock, leave it alone until you can do it right

[daily driven]

the leafs on trips doesn't look anything like that


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[dusterbd13]

that thread type is the reason i come over here.

thanks for the entertainment this evening.

[Blaze_x]

I got bored one weekend and had a few extra springs laying around. I have a set of ZQ8 leaves and they have the straight cut overload spring on the bottom. I needed to remove this for clearance for my caltracs that I am building and trying to keep as high as possible. And since this truck is not a daily driver or will I ever have anything more than a fuel cell, battery, and a nos tank... I really couldn't care about how much weight it can haul. I removed it from the bottom and bolted it to the top of the spring pack. PS you dont need a clamp for the ZQ8s cus they are pretty soft. This was pretty easy with the springs off the truck. This gained me about 1" of extra drop. and stiffened up the spring rate since it was reloading the spring. This is what I needed to achieve out of the soft ZQ8s and a sprayed v8. I also did this with a standard set of original springs and got about an inch more out of those too. If you want to do this nicely you will keep overload leaf that you remove from the bottom and place in on the top the same direction that you removed it. This puts much less stress on the spring ends and does not stiffen the spring pack as much. You will not get 5.5" out of this the way that I did but you will see a drop and stiffen the pack a little. I personally would not build a spring pack with that much stress as Trips did but each to his own. I would like to know how stiff the rear rides with that much counteracting forces. I will try to get pics up some time.

[trips10]

well after reading every ones comment im posting my fliped leaf pic. u decide how it looks. the ride is a little bouncy but not bad.

4 leafs are better but more stiffer then 3

click on pic. makes it bigger

[Blaze_x]

Some of the bounce problem is that your shock is so far out of position it cannt work as designed. You would need a much firmer shock to work at that angle. Is that a drop shock or stock length?

[trips10]

stockers the bounce dont bother me i got a lumber rack to put on so it might take some of it away cause i aint never seen a lowered truck with a lumber rack it sweet

[trips10]

after driving 1000 miles its starting to sag down an almost bottoming out under a load but im still running stock shocks an it got a slight vibration between 30/45 mph but sofar so good besides that

[nomaboy]

after driving 1000 miles its starting to sag down an almost bottoming out under a load but im still running stock shocks an it got a slight vibration between 30/45 mph but sofar so good besides that

It is sagging because the springs are not meant to support the truck the way they are mounted. That will get worse.

The vibration is prolly because your U-joints are stressed do to the different pinion angle you have now. That will get worse as well.

BTW, you have very little room for the suspension to work as it is; I would not put any weight back there with the springs flipped like that...If I were you.

[87wildside]

X2.

Better off mono leafing it.

[12sws27]

after driving 1000 miles its starting to sag down an almost bottoming out under a load but im still running stock shocks an it got a slight vibration between 30/45 mph but sofar so good besides that

So far so good? You just blow those 2 issues off like they're no big deal. "so far so good???" More like "So far from good."

I guess the bright side is that with all the money you saved you can afford to buy new pinion bearings, u-joints and a tranny tailshaft bushing after driving around with your pinion angle all fukt up.

[Jongo88]

So far so good? You just blow those 2 issues off like they're no big deal. "so far so good???" More like "So far from good."

I guess the bright side is that with all the money you saved you can afford to buy new pinion bearings, u-joints and a tranny tailshaft bushing after driving around with your pinion angle all fukt up.
None of us know anything. As long as it looks good that is all that counts...

[87wildside]

He was told don't do it.

Oh, I do know everything...lol You can't tell from my posts? I would kick ass on Jeopardy.

[BigTruckDrivah]

nice. you think if I flip the springs on my monster truck it lower it to scraping level?

[87wildside]

No. Leaf springs hate when you try to make them fight themselves.

[Blaze_x]

Any good posts on the monoleaf or the astro van fiberglass leaf spring conversions? wouldnt they be really bad on spring wrap/wheel hop?

[87wildside]

Well a mono leaf that is designed for it should be better but from what I have read the fiberglass mono leaf isn't very good for anything other then problems. Plenty on it at syty.net.
Have heard of the Astro swap but that was at s10f years ago when mono leaf/ bagged was acceptable.

[Blaze_x]

OK so I finally got some pictures taken of my rearranged leaf spring packs. As you can see the drop in not huge. The shorter ones are ZQ8 springs and the taller ones were stock on my 97 with 4cyl reg cab stepside. I have the modified ZQ8 in now and got about an extra 1"-1.5" drop from them, they are stiffer with less axle wrap and there is more room to tuck the cal-tracs that I am working on building up farther off the ground without hitting the overload spring that was hanging down before.

[trips10]

ive gone 3000 miles an it rides fair. but its a little bouncy an it dont like pot holes. im still running them but id recamend some shims to reajust pinion angle cause its got a vibration in 3rd gear an my pinion seal is starting to leak but its an easy fix

[87wildside]

lol

If you put them back I'll buy and send you blocks. Sh!t aint safe bud. I don't care who told you whatever. The vibration and pinion seal agree with me.

What do you need, 3" blocks?

[Bone Crusher]

annnnnnnndddd breathe!!!!

[spideyjected]

lol

If you put them back I'll buy and send you blocks. Sh!t aint safe bud. I don't care who told you whatever. The vibration and pinion seal agree with me.

What do you need, 3" blocks?
We could all chip in...

[12sws27]

Not me....I wanna see what happens...:)

[87wildside]

I don't want to see what happens if he's driving next to a car with kids in it....

[BigTruckDrivah]

I has the 3inch blocks from my old static drop...........




but I too want to see what happens!

[87wildside]

.....

[BigTruckDrivah]

F that! I wanna see what happens when a spring busts and the axle go flying out.

[trips10]

i deciced to do as you all said and get a set of stock springs an blocks its hard on my back id hate to be the reason from killing some one ive just got to find a set of leafs. blocks i can get cheap at the auto parts store

[BigTruckDrivah]

My leafs are gone. Lemme make sure I got those blocks still. My buddy might have grabbed them too.

[spideyjected]

Does Rock Auto have them? Their prices are pretty good.

[trips10]

any help is good help to me thanks

[12sws27]

I'd try S10warehouse on eBay. Maybe you could get the ZQ8 leafs and have a 4.5 drop when you put on the 3" blocks.

[trips10]

i found some in the junk yard today it was a mono leaf an 3in blocks just hope there still their by the time get some cash an they dont want that much i forgot to ask was with some friend a spaced it when we left

[Blaze_x]

mono leaf on an s-10? hmm maybe they just removed all but the main leaf. Are they steel or fiberglass? I know astro/safari had monos but that would take more fab work. IDK but I never get good stuff in the yards around here.

[daily driven]

got that set of for leaf packs on the blazer if they will fit have to see how much to ship to your current stop if you want them