Turbonoma's MPFI Edelbrock info

[gotswrv]

Okay, I figure this should be half here and half in the forsale section... If needs moved feel free.

We'll start here...
The manifold Tony is getting off me is much more than what most will want. He has requested a VERY complete package. Everything from the manifold, to regulator and injectors. I plan on most people wanting to pick there own brands, colors, sizes, etc... I don't have a problem getting/giving quotes for these other parts, but plese be aware it all adds up.

I can make more of these. Tony's is the 2nd, 1st is setting in a buddy's garage waiting on me to kick him in his ss, the 3rd is near completion and has been put on hold to get Tony's out sooner. I think the 3rd could be done within 2 weeks easy. I need to get a new spacer made before I get back to the 3rd as one of you has shown intent in buying it.

The manifold gets bungs welded in, plenum divider milled out, carb pad machined to level, The outer bolt pattern milled out and helicoiled with the thread straight up, minor clean up work to milled areas, rails, rail standoffs, throttle body spacer, TB to spacer gasket, spacer to manifold gasket, fittings to adapt the stock lines to -06AN, and standard injector connectors. All coatings, polishings, etc. are extra and not done in house. This means I'll charge you what they charge me and there will be extra delay. There is a polished 2114 now from edelbrock, I also have a local guy to polish, and others for powdercoating and anodizing.

I would love any questions as well as ideas you may have. I will be trying to get a little space to get some pics up. And I'm hoping very soon get one of these installed.

Again I hope this is the correct place for this. I have been getting a lot of questions from several boards so I thought I should start a thread. Poor Tony's threads are being whored to death.

[damon96706]

Looks very nice to me. How will you wire the injectors into the current wiring?

[gotswrv]

The stock injectors are a high impedence 12v unit just like many aftermarket units. Each injector uses a seperate pair of wires in the harness. One simply takes the wires going into the factory spider and runs them to the new injectors. I include the connectors to the new injectors. You made need to lengthen some of the factory wiring. This approach work only if your truck has 6 injectors stock. For TBI, etc. your gonna be a bit on you own, as to what will be the best approach for you.
A tuning program (TunerCat, LS1Edit, etc.) should be used to adjust the ECU for the new injectors.

I would like to try and answer all question not of a personal nature on this thread. You can also PM me, or E-mail at gotswrv@hotmail.com (gotswrv@hotmail.com) to get info for a specific package more or less than the standard issue.
I PayPal. I've found this the best way to go as a buyer. I would not ask for anyone to send money in the mail, as I do not care for that myself. I am setup to accept credit card payments thru PayPal.


Thanks for the questions Damon,
Sam

[94s10]

again i wish i didnt have a TBI. i'm gonna take your advice when i eventually do this and run a vortec ECU with tunercat, one question though, my truck is a manual, if i use an ECU from an auto truck, can the auto tranny programs be removed from the ECU by tunercat?

[ZR1-S10]

Sounds good, may have to wait awhile but I'll want one someday. I'll want full feedback and a dyno sheet before I put down $650.

[slowzq8]

damn I wish I had some money

[gotswrv]

again i wish i didnt have a TBI. i'm gonna take your advice when i eventually do this and run a vortec ECU with tunercat, one question though, my truck is a manual, if i use an ECU from an auto truck, can the auto tranny programs be removed from the ECU by tunercat?

My 00' 5spd 2wd came factory with programming for an auto. It also thinks its a 4wd?... Be to be clear, yes TunerCat will let you handle that.



I'll want full feedback and a dyno sheet before I put down $650.

I agree. I've been pushing my buddy to get his on to my old truck and get some numbers. I really think there should be a good gain. Now he's gone and changed exhaust again so we'll have to get new baseline numbers. I would like to get one on at 100% before letting to many of these out into the world.

Sam

[Supercharged-ZQ8]

What would it be to get a fully bolt-on manifold, including injectors? Basically, pull the old one off and put the new one on -- with nothing else needed aside from gaskets? Preferably 32 lb/hr injectors (but with the current/stock TB). . .

And, is there a way (aside from TunerCat) to accomodate the EGR? Specifically, any way to avoid throwing a code? If not, what is done with the EGR tube?

I was trying to achieve this with AFI, but I no longer know what the status is with it. . . A 100% bolt-on would move nicely -- especially if it overcame several of the inherent problems with these trucks (EGR being the biggest).

I'm VERY interested. . . As soon as you find out what the gains are (if any -- the fact that the injectors can be upgraded is enough to catch my interest) post 'em up!

[gotswrv]

What would it be to get a fully bolt-on manifold, including injectors? Basically, pull the old one off and put the new one on -- with nothing else needed aside from gaskets? Preferably 32 lb/hr injectors (but with the current/stock TB). . .

And, is there a way (aside from TunerCat) to accomodate the EGR? Specifically, any way to avoid throwing a code? If not, what is done with the EGR tube?



I just got another inquiry for a setup that is very similar. I'll work up a price. It's a bit of a suprise to me that there is so much intrest in packages. I had though most would want to shop around and get this brand, that color, etc.

As for the EGR, I've not really put any thought to it other than with an ECU editing program. I expected that the only person's interested in this would be one's who have already done alot of custom work and little things like mounting the coil, moving the intake tubing aft a few inches, and EGR removal would not be an issue.
There are a few places that you could send off and have this done. But in the end you'll pay TunerCat prices and have to ship back and fourth. I had also thought most who'd be interested would be working with forced induction, and wanting to run an ECU editor.

It needs to be understood that even though you take one off and bolt the other in it's place you must be able to tune. There are also going to be things to dealt with such as the TB moving aft in the bay a little, the coil pack needing mounted somewhere, TB bracket needing bend and a hole drilled in it, you'll need a filler neck and new upper hose, etc...

Not trying to turn anyone off here. It isn't good to let people get in over there head either.

Sam

[Supercharged-ZQ8]

I just got another inquiry for a setup that is very similar. I'll work up a price. It's a bit of a suprise to me that there is so much intrest in packages. I had though most would want to shop around and get this brand, that color, etc.

As for the EGR, I've not really put any thought to it other than with an ECU editing program. I expected that the only person's interested in this would be one's who have already done alot of custom work and little things like mounting the coil, moving the intake tubing aft a few inches, and EGR removal would not be an issue.
There are a few places that you could send off and have this done. But in the end you'll pay TunerCat prices and have to ship back and fourth. I had also thought most who'd be interested would be working with forced induction, and wanting to run an ECU editor.

It needs to be understood that even though you take one off and bolt the other in it's place you must be able to tune. There are also going to be things to dealt with such as the TB moving aft in the bay a little, the coil pack needing mounted somewhere, TB bracket needing bend and a hole drilled in it, you'll need a filler neck and new upper hose, etc...

Not trying to turn anyone off here. It isn't good to let people get in over there head either.

Sam
Understandable. I'm not adverse to moving and modifying things (as if that fact isn't self-evident), but my thought is for the "general populace." The manifold on the 4.3 is the biggest limitation to ANY power gains to be had -- and more than a few non forced-induction members want more out of their motors than the stock manifold can provide.

When I first contacted AFI about a manifold project, the thought was a complete "bolt-on" package (even though most bolt-ons are FAR from being bolt-on!). With a little research and a little more machining, this Edelbrock manifold could very well be made into a virtual bolt-on. . . With adequate documentation/instructions, it could be done. A little extra machining could accomodate for the coil bracket. I haven't delved deeply into the workings of the EGR, but tapping a point into the manifold where the stock manifold has the inlet for the EGR tube, and some machining of the manifold where the valve itself mounts could be a possibility that would overcome the problem. . . POSSIBLY, that is. And including a filler neck for the upper hose could easily add value and ease of installation.

I can see a definite demand for a manifold and a desire for as close as possible to a bolt-on installation. I have thought about attempting a similar project myself, but do not have access to machining facilities or the knowledge to utilize them even I did have access. But, I DO figure things out -- given time to look and ponder. . .

With 19 lb/hr injectors, the ECM (in stock form) should be able to handle the upgrade -- for those that would need larger injectors, TunerCat is the best option. It's the other items that need dealt with (the end consumer could handle other changes with injectors, tuning, etc.).

Ah, the mind is whirling! This definitely needs explored further. . . From what I'm seeing, the EGR is the biggest liability with the current design (for those without tuning capabilities). A filler neck and upper radiator hose are simple enough to add-on -- it's just a matter of part numbers and additional cost. And even with the TB relocated, the stock intake and most aftermarket intakes should have enough "room" to accomodate. And including a TB bracket that is bent and drilled appropriately is also easily overcome. . .

What I'm thinking is that a lot of people -- if they're going THIS far -- would pay a little extra for an simpler install than "get off cheap" and have a harder install.

I may be dreaming, but I see a lot of potential in this design -- with some slight modifications, and depending on power gain, of course. But, then again, the Edelbrock manifold has GOT to flow better than this stock piece of junk -- and better flow is what power is all about!

[Supercharged-ZQ8]

Questions, though:

What is the p/n of the filler neck?
P/n of the upper hose?
What's involved with bending and drilling the TB bracket?
Have you dealt with the intake tubing? What is involved/how far is it moved? Any difficulties?
Any other issues you see with it? Hood clearance, other mounting difficulties, etc?
Lastly, what is the overall cost?

I'm asking because I'm definitely wanting one. . . I'm looking into Tunercat as well, but I always try to "keep an eye out" to help others with their hobby as well, and the EGR is what I see as the biggest difficulty (aside from tuning, that is). Tuning may or may not be an issue -- for those with forced induction, there are a couple options -- and the ProFlash that is included with the Wynjammer kits MAY be able to be tuned for the appropriate injectors. . . And since the ProFlash is available separately, that presents another option for tuning as well. . .

Again, my mind is whirling!

[ZR1-S10]

If you can add the egr fix, TB brackets, and all the little things SuperchargedZQ8 said and get aleast 10rwhp more on a N/A engine I will pay $800!

[biglouie_underpressure]

800 for 10hp huh?

[ZR1-S10]

Well you get more then just 10hp. 10hp is for the better air flow, but the inproved fuel and tuning makes for the rest. And I will be getting a Wynjammer (hope to win it!) so I'll need the higher injectors, and I want to see a gain now before going blown.

[gotswrv]

Questions, though:

What is the p/n of the filler neck?
P/n of the upper hose?
What's involved with bending and drilling the TB bracket?
Have you dealt with the intake tubing? What is involved/how far is it moved? Any difficulties?
Any other issues you see with it? Hood clearance, other mounting difficulties, etc?
Lastly, what is the overall cost?


I do not have one of these installed yet. The only one that is local to me is being SC so making the stock tubing work isn't an issue. I don't even know anyone with an S that has the stock intake tubing filter stuff installed anymore. I am hoping to find someone that has the old factory stuff laying around.
The purpose that got me on this project was to allow fueling to open a new window in Vortec V6 forced induction performance. I truely do not understand why one would spend this kind of money and use a stock size injector. Or do this without the intent of tuning. If you don't have a need for a larger injector, why spend all that money.
As far as the TB bracket goes, I bolted it to the TB letting it hang below it's horizontal mounting surface. Then I draw a line where it needs bent. Put it in a vise and bend it. Then cut the tab to length and round the corners. Place the bracket on the TB with the TB bolted to the spacer. Eyeball the hole threaded in the spacer and drill an oversized hole. I send a button head for this so the hole can be much larger than the bolt, making it easier to line up.

The filler neck is just a standard small block unit. Summit has something like 20 different one to chose from. Once I get a local intake installed I plan on offering a part number for the hose used as well as what style and angle filler neck was used.

The TB is about the same height as stock and moved aft. Clearence should be better than stock as the hood ramps down towards the front.

If the overall cost is to include the hose,filler neck, injectors, bracket, reflash, pump, regulator, lines, fittings, along with the standard manifold setup... I'm gonna have to get this setup to go through speed smy buddy's hop. I'm just a guy who happen to be able to make our hobby work. I am not a retail shop. I have no way to handle keeping track of all of that. I am scheduled to sit down and talk with these guys on Monday. We'll work up some pricing as well as try and come up with a timeframe for online ordering.

Not trying to turn anyone off, just being upfront. With so many years, and changes from the factory, as well as the custom stuff done, it's very hard to know what will work for everyone.
Simply put I'm not ready to handle taking orders on setups this complete. I will work to get a system setup to be able to do this. Didn't anticapate a responce like this until after a few had snuck out and showed good results... It would be in all's best intrest to get more hands on time before letting to many of these out.
I will get a price to include 32# injectors, Aeromotive regulator, fittings and lines, and new throttle body bracket in the coming week. I don't know if there is a universal place to mount the regulator... Maybe I could work out a way to secure it to the manifold.

Sam

[gotswrv]

If you can add the egr fix, TB brackets, and all the little things SuperchargedZQ8 said and get aleast 10rwhp more on a N/A engine I will pay $800!

I have no way to find out what is need for the EGR. My old S-10 is too far from stock to think it is a good model. The 04' Blazer doesn't have it. As for the power I hope for atleast that. Time will tell.

Sam

[biglouie_underpressure]

would be nice to have some real hp flow gains from a boosted 2114 vs. stock, but then again it's boosted! my 2114 should be finished in a month with no mods need for fuel lines or harness.

[gotswrv]

would be nice to have some real hp flow gains from a boosted 2114 vs. stock, but then again it's boosted! my 2114 should be finished in a month with no mods need for fuel lines or harness.

I very interested in how that looks. I have a very strange idea in mind.

[Supercharged-ZQ8]

I do not have one of these installed yet. The only one that is local to me is being SC so making the stock tubing work isn't an issue. I don't even know anyone with an S that has the stock intake tubing filter stuff installed anymore. I am hoping to find someone that has the old factory stuff laying around.
The purpose that got me on this project was to allow fueling to open a new window in Vortec V6 forced induction performance. I truely do not understand why one would spend this kind of money and use a stock size injector. Or do this without the intent of tuning. If you don't have a need for a larger injector, why spend all that money.
As far as the TB bracket goes, I bolted it to the TB letting it hang below it's horizontal mounting surface. Then I draw a line where it needs bent. Put it in a vise and bend it. Then cut the tab to length and round the corners. Place the bracket on the TB with the TB bolted to the spacer. Eyeball the hole threaded in the spacer and drill an oversized hole. I send a button head for this so the hole can be much larger than the bolt, making it easier to line up.

The filler neck is just a standard small block unit. Summit has something like 20 different one to chose from. Once I get a local intake installed I plan on offering a part number for the hose used as well as what style and angle filler neck was used.

The TB is about the same height as stock and moved aft. Clearence should be better than stock as the hood ramps down towards the front.

If the overall cost is to include the hose,filler neck, injectors, bracket, reflash, pump, regulator, lines, fittings, along with the standard manifold setup... I'm gonna have to get this setup to go through speed smy buddy's hop. I'm just a guy who happen to be able to make our hobby work. I am not a retail shop. I have no way to handle keeping track of all of that. I am scheduled to sit down and talk with these guys on Monday. We'll work up some pricing as well as try and come up with a timeframe for online ordering.

Not trying to turn anyone off, just being upfront. With so many years, and changes from the factory, as well as the custom stuff done, it's very hard to know what will work for everyone.
Simply put I'm not ready to handle taking orders on setups this complete. I will work to get a system setup to be able to do this. Didn't anticapate a responce like this until after a few had snuck out and showed good results... It would be in all's best intrest to get more hands on time before letting to many of these out.
I will get a price to include 32# injectors, Aeromotive regulator, fittings and lines, and new throttle body bracket in the coming week. I don't know if there is a universal place to mount the regulator... Maybe I could work out a way to secure it to the manifold.

Sam
Sam, I'm thinking the old cliche "if you build it, they will come. . ."

I understand being conservative about it -- being untested and all.

Let me look through my spare/stock parts. . . I know I've got the stock aribox, but I don't think I've still got the plenum itself. . . Yeah, I've got the stocker airbox and stocker rubber flex tubing, but no MAF or bonnet/plenum. If you need them, you can have them.

All that $$ and work to use a stock injector? N/A -- the 19 lb.hr injectors can support up to 275 hp or so -- beyond that, an upgrade is necessary. The main purpose of the manifold is better flow for people that are N/A. It's for the forced induction folks that the better injectors are needed.

This idea you mentioned in reference to Louie's post has me interested as well. . . PM me if you don't want to publicly post it -- I'm interested in hearing what you've got in mind. . . I have a few ideas of my own that may help out. . . I honestly think it is VERY doable -- just a little work/research involved. And, coming in at the price-point that I THINK you're contemplating, you're guaranteed to sell more than a couple of them -- extra money for mods!

[gotswrv]

The idea I have in mind could be considered butchery. Cheap, but all bad. I'd hope that our friend here has a better solution than I've just pictured.


I do understand that above say 180-200 at the tire the cam and intake are very much in the way. Also nitrous fans would be much better off being able to run a per port setup. I guess this approach was just way off what I intended as well as expected. Nothing wrong with it, just different than my brain picture. I would have to think that reguardless, some tuning will be needed. I will be having talks with my friends about this as well, they currently mail off a chip or two for the Stang guys so they'll better know what can be safetly done there. TunerCat should allow for this to be very reasonable. Most likely we'll try a few eBay store sales using generic #32 setups as well as just the machined stuff, without anything Summit carries.

I am still at a loss for how to handle pre-made braided hose to the regulator. There are so many places it could end up.

As for the EGR I may not be willing to deal with that right away. Maybe after some sleep I will see the light or whatever...

Goodnight all,
Sam

[gotswrv]

Within the next weeks I hope to have one on, and before and after baselines. Might be the end of the month.

[ZR1 S10]

How much for a set of rails?

[biglouie_underpressure]

I very interested in how that looks. I have a very strange idea in mind.
yo hit me up boosted was supposed to help me but he doesn't think my idea will be clean. my intake could be installed in a DAY!!! with no need for fuel rails or wiring! send me your e-maill addy so i can send you a pic of my pimp injector boss/holder.

[biglouie_underpressure]

the cost would look like ....140(6 bosses)
2114 intake 230
injectors 500 (injectors and fittings)
Not bad at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ZR1 S10]

Dunno if you delt with the egr yet, but theres one of those carb spacers that has an egr fitting on it some where in summits site.

[gotswrv]

How much for a set of rails?

If you've got the rest handled why couldn't you make those as well? The rail stock can be had for 10-20 dollars a foot.

Reason for me saying this is it may be dificult to make them for you and get it right without being able to take some precise measurements. My rail spacing is very likely not the same as yours.

Sam

[gotswrv]

gotswrv@hotmail.com

[gotswrv]

Okay, the first is a pic of what is included in my most basic setup. I know that most aren't interested in this. I thought it would be good for a few to see where I'm coming from. Powder coating is not included. Basically it's all the parts to let someone shop at a normal vendor and buy normal parts.

The second is what Tony's got coming. I'm not going to give and exact price but expect around $1500+ for something this complete and set to kill. Of course smaller injectors, and regulator, as well as leaving the Y-block off, and not getting the coating would drop the price a bit. Tony's setup to never have to think about fuel again(minus his stock lines from the tank).

I will be working on a price for a setup with half the injector of Tony's #65s. I'm sure this will help on price. Will give that info as I work it out.

Sam

[damon96706]

The "complete setup" looks sweet, Sam. Good job!

Damon

[ZR1 S10]

Hmm how much for the setup minus the:
fuel lines, regulator, & adaptor.

Just the intake, rails, gaskets :), and 74lb hr injectors.

[Sy-Clone]

Hmm how much for the setup minus the:
fuel lines, regulator, & adaptor. Just the intake, rails, gaskets :), and 74lb hr injectors.
Why are you going with 74# injectors man? You're not running more equipment
than what I have. 65# injectors are good for 500+hp. PEACE>Tony :confused:

[gotswrv]

Hmm how much for the setup minus the:
fuel lines, regulator, & adaptor.

Just the intake, rails, gaskets :), and 74lb hr injectors.

I'll try to work something up. To use up those #74 injectors your gonna need to buy my Oddfire crank :0

[gotswrv]

I'm through with the initial "beta" stuff for now. There are a few guys whom I think will be key on getting this worked out for all. They will be getting there's as soon as I can get them done. With the info they provide I will be able to create a product that should fill everyones needs. I really appreciate everyone being so enthusiastic about this. I'm stopping distribution until I can make sure it proves itself. I in no way wish to sell anyone something that doesn't perform as intended. Please bare with me as this is currently my hobby and doesn't pay any part of the bills.
I will be working hard to get a 100% "kit" figured out. EGR is still quite iffy, but I do have a local truck that I'll be putting one of these on with EGR. The owner has NO intention of keeping the EGR but I will be able to try and figure out how it can be done. The radiator hose is an easy fix for those with E fans. For those without I'll be working on a fix for this as well. I'd like to mount both the coil and the FPR above the distributer. If anyone would be against this please send a pic of why. I think I can share the space with a SC kit Mach filter. As far as I can tell that would be the most universal mounting position. Next to the heater box is another promising location. A picky drag strip will not allow a firewall mounted FPR.
I have talked with my friends with the speed shop and they are working with me to get this working for all. Much thanks to them for there support and to all of you.

Sam

[ZR1 S10]

Like I said all I need is the intake, rails (hold downs too), gaskets, and injectors.

syclone the reason I say 74 is because thats what all the syty guys recomended. And who knows more about turbos then them? :) I'm shooting for 550rwhpish and I guess thats what I'll need for 625+ish at the crank! :eek:

Hey gotswrv now that I'm going with a FAST, Accel Gen 7, or Commander 950. I could run that oddfire if I can find a dist for it! hmmmmm :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[gotswrv]

Well I only want $600 for the crank! That could really make buying a new distributer from GM easy enough.

I had the rails held to the adapter plate.?! I'm gonna guess your planning on going the way of hte 4 barrel TB?

[biglouie_underpressure]

yea i'll be running 1000lb injectors i hope it will be enough fuel for my 2000hp beast.

[nomaboy]

hey zr1 s10, if you get a new intake, let me buy the one you are runnin now. i like that, it is a cool set up.

[ZR1 S10]

Well I only want $600 for the crank! That could really make buying a new distributer from GM easy enough.

I had the rails held to the adapter plate.?! I'm gonna guess your planning on going the way of hte 4 barrel TB?

I dunno yet I gotta talk to boosed because I'd really like to keep my ls1 tb.

But which of those gm distributors are for the oddfire 90* v6??

[gotswrv]

I got to looking on your site. Is that the one someone else did and then sold(boosted)? Why do you want to change?
If you can read dial calipers then I have no problem making just rails, I'll make the manifold and rails too. We should probably take it to PM's or e-mail if you're serious though.

gmpartsdirect has them under; Performance>Electrical Ignition Gauges> Distributors P/N 10051133 boy is it a hogh dollar number. The crank as well as my Baer's, and a bit of my other stuff will be eBay'd soon.

Sam

[ZR1 S10]

pm sent :D

[extreme gmc]

i just spent 10 minutes reading thru all of this and am now interested in purchasing one of your manifolds, depending on how truly bolt on it is. my question is, how hard would it be to reuse the stock distributor? also, when it is considered, ready, you would include a list of other aftermarket parts needed along with recommended brands and part #s, correct?
thanx!!!
Charlie

[gotswrv]

I can't see any reason the stock distributor wouldn't work. That is what I had planned on running.
As far as I can tell the EGR is the only thing that will pose a problem. I'm not sure if I will be trying to tackel that right away or not.
My goal was and is to provide a manifold that allows one to use whatever aftermarket vendor and brand they choose. I don't really have a preference. The individual project usually dictates the colors, that will many times sets the brand... But the injectors will be standard "domestic" injectors, meaning about anything rated in #'s that doesn't claim to be a special anythin, and the fittings are good ole 1/2" npt and -06AN.
Since this project has become a public one I now understand that tweaking the TB bracket and making a generic coil/FPR mount are also things I'll need to do.

Currently I'm waiting to put one on so get the coil mount figured out. This truck also has EGR so I'll be able to get a better idea of what is involved with this as well.

Sam

[extreme gmc]

egr? whats that??? (in case you couldnt tell, i am being sarcastic)

[gotswrv]

To me EGR is a switch/DTC one turns off when adjusting for the larger injectors...

[Sy-Clone]

Well guys this is your chance to get Sam's intake at a considerable savings compared to the one from AFI. Wow!it blew me away to find out AFI was using
the 2114 Edelbrock for their project. I had believed all along that it was a custom unit. Sam's workmanship speaks for itself. So now is the time to get a
good deal on an excelent piece of equipment.PEACE>Tony ;)

[gotswrv]

Well here is a follow up...

Finally some dyno numbers. Not big gains in the peak power, BUT good gains overall. The power is really extended out as well as making some low end torque gains. I am pretty happy with the layout of this setup. All is pretty easy to work with. The K&N was easily adapted, I do think the stock filter system would be an issue.
Injectors were from an LT1. Tuning/Install done at MC Racing by Nick. Using a Dynojet, Autotap, and TunerCat.
We also have another one(2114 MPFI) running(my old S-10) that is waiting on a tune. Results from that will follow. I am buying the S-10 back and will be getting a cam (thinking a 260HR) before it even gets back to my house... I do think the cam is really the hold up on power with these engines. Of course I will post for that as well.

Any questions? please ask... I will not be making these for at least a while, I am trying to get a proper shop in order, work on my own toys, and get a car ready for a nice cruise on next years "Drag Week". Between all this ,a family ,and a few V8 MPFI conversions already lined up, try me in the spring... We'll take it from there.

Take care all.

Sam

[Sparky2263]

If you look at the gains alone, it doesn't seem like much. But take a close look at the area under the curve. It's gotta be at least 35-40% larger. THAT'S impressive as it is where you truly pick up in an acceleration contest.

[Sy-Clone]

Well guys you wanted results and now you have them. The Edelbrock works! Dan
just needs a better cam to wake it up. And Sam's intake is far and away better than
what AFI is offering in quality and price. This is just what is needed to take our pint
size 350(minus two)to the next level. I've been working a long time on my TurboNoma but I can assure you that when I hit the streets, I'll be dusting a few
muscle cars and trucks. I still have a bigger turbo on the shelf(62-1 T4)for fase II of
my project plus better ss headers waiting to be made. Good things come to those
who are willing to wait. PEACE>Tony :seesaw:

[ZR1-S10]

Great! I live just 1 mile from MC Racing and I'm glad to know if you build the manifold they can tune it right. Come spring when your ready to make more convertions I'll give you a call for one.

[gotswrv]

Your not in my old house are you??? I used to live a few blocks away.


Sam

[Maximus]

Good things come to those
who are willing to wait. PEACE>Tony :seesaw:I tell ya Tony you have WAY more patience than I ever will lol.It will be cool to see it when it's all done.

[nomaboy]

you guys are makin me want to spend my money again..........