mother !@#$%R

[nomaboy]

went to IRP tonight. ran a best of 15.499@88.93 kinda disapointed me. i ran 15.999 last summer and hear are the mods that got me to 15.499
:4.10 gears with posi
:msd 6A
:better flowing exhaust
:better flowing intake
:245/50/16 tires instead of 255/60/15(the 245 are a little shorter)
:traction bars
their is absolutly NO problem with traction...those bars do a good job
all this added up to about $2000 and i got .5 sec. out of it???
i am begining to think i picked the wrong vehicle to mod-out


ok. guess i am done *****ing now :o

[JROD©™®]

haha...well the dime is a brick on wheels...to get very noticeable improvements on your probably will have to do some heavy duty mods...supercharge it, engine swap. something like that. your time could also be affected by the conditions...one of the mods around here has a pretty quick time...it says so in his signature...


damnit man...i was wrong...it was maximus and i misread...


93 S10 4.3 AT-Edelbrock air cleaner,K&N filter,MSD coil,Taylor spiro-pro wires,egr mod,vette servo,Flowmaster exhaust,3.73 gears,limited slip rear
2001 Trans Am WS6 LS1 M6-LS1 edit,K&N filter,SLP lid,SLP bellow,LS6 intake,ThunderRacing 224 cam,Comp Cam valve springs,SLP balancer pulley,SLP headers,SLP loudmouth exhaust,MagnaFlow race muffler,Taylor spiro-pro wires,Hypertech 160 stat,Denso iridium plugs,Centerforce DF clutch,BMR subframe connectors,4.10 gears,and nitrous waiting to be installed-12.36 @ 113.55

thats his LS1 WS6 time... :o

[Sparky2263]

What was your 60' time? What rpm's are you shifting? What is your 1/8 et and mph?

[Sparky2263]

The air density was -401 ft. at IRP tonight, MINESHAFT AIR! It should've been hauling ass.

[nomaboy]

60 ft. time was 2.235
1/8 was 9.946 @ 69.68
shift at about 5100rpm

[Maximus]

I wish my S10 was as fast as my TA.The daily driver would sure make my commute to work fun as hell lol.

[nomaboy]

yea it should've been hauling ass. i thought going from 3.42 to 4.10 alone would have givin me .5 sec. i just can't wait till i get my cam thrown in on sat.

[Sparky2263]

For a stock converter the 60' ain't bad. A good converter would shave .15-.2 off your 60' which would translate to .3-.5 reduction in ET. That's really not the issue though. With the air you had tonight it should've been hauling ass putting down some nice numbers.

Random thoughts;
Headwind?

Exhaust restriction at the y-pipe/muffler?

Tire pressure/Alignment?

Any extra weight added?

The suspension mods you have make it very tight not allowing it to "work" but you don't have traction issues so that's moot.

[Sparky2263]

Cam is gonna make the 60' worse w/o a stall converter. Don't be surprised to see an increase in mph w/o a corresponding decrease in ET.

60' time is THE most important.

[ZR1-S10]

Mrfrosty is right! And how about putting your ET in the Timeslips area? That area can always use more!

[joker2040]

Must be nice to have traction! MrFrosty you still got me beat until I get some slicks then I'm coming for you. lol...

[bvr775]

your shifting at 5100 right? back off of that a little. your engine is good for 3500-4000 after that your not makeing anymore torque. You need torque to move mass.
I see headers in your sig and a 6a box. those are pretty significant mods for an 01s comp to handle and may actually be costing you HP. You may need to hookup a laptop and you'll definatly need a couple of pulls on a dyno to see were your at. I do see the a shiftkit in there to and wondering if you had the servos done as well. you could have a slip between 2 and 3 gear.

[Sparky2263]

Must be nice to have traction! MrFrosty you still got me beat until I get some slicks then I'm coming for you. lol...

I got your slicks here Joker. Gainesville raceway is a sweet track and Florida such a fine vacation destination ;).

Hit me up!

[nomaboy]

a little windy but not too bad
no extra weight
the exhaust is still a little restrictive but i am getting that fixed. it goes 1 1/4 head pipe on each side to 1 1 1/4 pipe then to a 3" pipe into 3" flowmaster out 2 2 1/2 turndowns.
that is the same y pipe that i was runnin last year though.

so what your sayin frosty, is that with the cam i will gain MPH but lose E.T.?
i guess i will have to get a 2500 stall converter. my current one stalls at 2100

i did notice a gain with my msd when i put that on. it felt like it went through the top end faster. No servo, i dont' want to do too much damage to the internals of the transmission(reaction sun gear shell) has a history of cracking on pre 02' models with hard shifts it does hit 2nd and 3rd hard though
cant really control shift points. if i manually upshift before 5100 then it won't shift until 5100

and yes, it is awsom being able to floor it right off the line. it really pushes your butt to the seat. those kumho's are nice with the trac bars.

[nomaboy]

oh yea, the only thing is that i forgot to take my tailgait off. i took it off last year but i don't see it making that big of a difference

[Sparky2263]

so what your sayin frosty, is that with the cam i will gain MPH but lose E.T.?
i guess i will have to get a 2500 stall converter. my current one stalls at 2100

i if i manually upshift before 5100 then it won't shift until 5100

Your 60' will slow but you'll make up for it at the top end. I highly recommend the Yank or the Vigilante. Only 2 companies with billet front covers AND converter dyno's. Tested before you get it. Mine's a 3200 Vigilante. Actual stall is only 'bout 2800 though 'cause they rate 'em for V-8's.

I shift mine at 5500-5600 but I have full length headers and true duals. If you let the trans. shift itself it may want more rpm's than you've been giving it. Worth a shot. Nothing beats on track testing.

[nomaboy]

yea. the trans at full throttle shifts at 5100 rpm. except for 3-4 shift. if i put the truck in drive and punch it all the way too the floor it will shift into 2 @5100 3 @5100 and 4 @4000
i don't know why it does that early 4th shift but.....maybe a throttle position sensor although i changed that about 6 months ago.....
as for the converter i don't want a stall that high because it gets drivin on the street a lot. and i don't really want to spend 800 bucks for one but if i have too i will , just take some time though.

[Sparky2263]

Mine is a daily driver. I avg. about 17-17.5 and I drive it like I stole it. Keeping the lock-up function is critical to keeping your fuel mileage.

I think your engine now wants more rpm's, I really do. May have moved the torque peak up high enough you're falling on the front side of it at the shift. That would easily explain the less than expected gains. Stick it on a dyno and see. Our local dyno is 3 pulls for $75.

[nomaboy]

i drive mine like i stole it too and even when i don't i am lucky to hit 13 MPG.
i will have too find a dyno around here. that is a good idea you have. that would show my torque curve and such.
although if i could get around the rev limiter, how much rpms could my engine handle without going BOOM?

[Sparky2263]

My rev-limit was 5500. I expected it to pull to 6000 but it won't. Had to raise it though because I kept hitting it. 5600 is about the limit n/a and 5800-6000 on nitrous.

I use a fluidamper (small block chevy 8") for extra insurance but we're good to 6500 at least. More than that and I'd want a balanced assembly.

[joker2040]

I got your slicks here Joker. Gainesville raceway is a sweet track and Florida such a fine vacation destination ;).

Hit me up!

I'm going to hit you up ASAP. I need to take a vacation anyway.

[XxInFaxX]

I'm going to hit you up ASAP. I need to take a vacation anyway.


i say we put a tent on the lift in sparky's garage and you can sleep there!

[Sparky2263]

He can sleep in the motorhome ;).

[joker2040]

Snap...

[black_ss_blazer]

went to IRP tonight. ran a best of 15.499@88.93 kinda disapointed me. i ran 15.999 last summer and hear are the mods that got me to 15.499
:4.10 gears with posi
:msd 6A
:better flowing exhaust
:better flowing intake
:245/50/16 tires instead of 255/60/15(the 245 are a little shorter)
:traction bars
their is absolutly NO problem with traction...those bars do a good job
all this added up to about $2000 and i got .5 sec. out of it???
i am begining to think i picked the wrong vehicle to mod-out


ok. guess i am done *****ing now :o

Them 4.10 gears might be killing you a little....Do you still have Torque management..???
I put in my 3.73's and my truck pulled like a mother before the gears all the way up to 4800-5000, after the 3.73's went in the truck falls hard on its face around 4000-4500......alot of people I have talked to about this problem says its the torque management in the computer, noticing the truck reving quicker and it starts to pull timing out sooner........just a thought.

[Sparky2263]

.alot of people I have talked to about this problem says its the torque management in the computer, noticing the truck reving quicker and it starts to pull timing out sooner........just a thought.

VERY interesting. I'm gonna look into that.

Anybody else on this theory?

[nomaboy]

well to be honest, it pulls a lot better through the rpm range with the 4.10 than with the 3.42. i see your point though. i will soon find out. in a couple of weeks i am getting the ls1 edit and will be able to get rid of that damn TM.

[nomaboy]

--just a side note--i do have my computer programmed for 4.10 instead of 3.42

[black_ss_blazer]

--just a side note--i do have my computer programmed for 4.10 instead of 3.42

So you dont have torque management anymore.....??...or your speedo is corrected for the 4.10's ...??

[joker2040]

i think he means the speedo is corrected for the 4.10's.....

[joker2040]

keep me posted on the 4.10's

[Hammer]

you definitely need a tune. i suspect it might be running rich and the timing probably could be adjusted too, tq managment is killing your 60'

sparky, when do you see valve float on the stock setup?

[nomaboy]

damn piece-o-crap superchips tuner takes care of the timing and fuel curve. as for the TM....an LS1 edit ought to solve that little bastards problem:)

[nomaboy]

and i definatly love the 4.10s by the way. got about .3 out of them

[Sparky2263]

and i definatly love the 4.10s by the way. got about .3 out of them

Timeslip puhleeeeeze!

Glad to hear they worked for ya'. Dying to put 4.10's back in mine

[nomaboy]

R/T- .428
60'- 2.226
330- 6.397
1/8- 9.911
1000- 12.938
1/4- 15.499
MPH- 88.93
crappy R/T i know