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I want to bag the front for right now but i was wondering where to get a kit at for just this or if there is even a kit or if this is even a good idea. Theres a blazer close by that has the rear static dropped like 6 inches or so with blocks and drop leafs and the front is bagged and was wanting to do the same. Who makes a good kit for this and how hard is it to do? Ive been looking at the air ride technologies stuff and it looks fairly simple but Im always a skeptical buyer. As far as bagging the front goes what sort of problems will I encounter as far as like bottoming out or whatever in the rear? Should I do something for the back or how should I static drop the rear enough to make the truck look level but still be a safe drop. My truck is a 99 x cab. Ive heard so much about people mono-leafing and 4 inch blocks and all kinds of other stuff like that but Im just going for something that will function and be within my price range. I only make 6 somethin an hour and Im a full time student so Im just lookin for the cheap lowering but still safe and functional. Any ideas?
jason at suicidedoors.com has a front only kit. its not on his website, but if you call him he will tell you about it.
from everyone i have heard loves Jason, says he is awesome when it comes to customer service.
lowriderbowtie
04-29-05, 01:37 AM
i beleive jason was offering what he called the "s10 forum special" for the front end
it came with bags, cups, lines, 4 valves, viair 450, 8 gal. tank, gauges, switch box...pretty much everything you need to lay out the front of an s10. He was giving it away for like $610 shipped. you should call him and see if he still has it going on
that was quite a while ago. but jason is such a cool guy he would prolly still give it to you
OMG! All that for $600 somethin. Ive heard he was really cool and I was gunna prolly order my stuff through him anyways but hot damn only $600 somethin to do the whole front up with guages and everything. Thats a deal if Ive ever heard one. Ill have to call him once I get my graduation money in which will be in about 2-3 weeks and see what he says.
Well also how many inches of drop is this goin to give me? I wanna lay level and I have a 2/3 on it right now (spindles and 3 in blocks).
As far as the back goes what is the best way to lower the back? I saw a blazer that had a huge set of blocks like 4 in and Im guessing drop leafs and it looked like it was pretty sound except for the huge blocks and the fact that the leafs were like about 2-3 inches from bottoming out. Any ideas?
Minitrucker4lyfe
04-29-05, 10:27 AM
Yeah man definately give Jason a call he is the man. I have ordered alot of stuff from him.
lowriderbowtie
04-29-05, 11:27 AM
that kit from jason will sit you as low as possible...you would have to take out your inner fenders to get the full effect. with it all aired down, it would probly be the equivelnt of an 7-8" drop in the front
And ive called him recently just to see if he is still selling that kit cheap, and he still is! this was only back in february. hell of a deal for sure
lowriderbowtie
04-29-05, 11:30 AM
for the rear, AirRide Technologies makes an air over leaf kit for our trucks...ive seen people completly lay the truck on the ground with this setup in the rear and some sort of setup in the front. its really cheap to..
www.ridetech.com (http://www.ridetech.com) its part number ark2004 i beleive
Sweet deal. As far as the inner fender wells being removed does that mean if I get 18s on low pros that Im gunna have to remove um (sorry if this sounds stupid to ask). Is there anyway to still have fenderwells or are there replacement ones available to put in instead of not having any at all?
As far as the airoverleaf thing goes is that reliable or how does it work? Im gunna check it out on the site but sometimes they dont explain for **** about the products they sell.
you would have to take out your inner fenders to get the full effect.
well it depends totally on his tire size, and if he has drop spindles. if he has a 17 inch rims and the right tire size, he will lay his crossmember before his tires hit his wells. most likely any bigger tire/wheel combo will rest on the wells when aired out
Sweet deal. As far as the inner fender wells being removed does that mean if I get 18s on low pros that Im gunna have to remove um (sorry if this sounds stupid to ask). Is there anyway to still have fenderwells or are there replacement ones available to put in instead of not having any at all?
well all trucks are different. like i said, on average a 17" rim with low pros are about the max you can go before they hit your wells when layed out. my truck has a little more room, i run 18's with a 235/40 tire and my wheels hit my wells, but it still lays my tranny crossmember on the ground right as they rub. my plan is to use some trailer fenders as replacement wheels wells. much like i did in the bed of my truck
lowriderbowtie
04-29-05, 11:51 AM
you can leave your fenderwells in if you like, but if you wanted to lay it flat on the ground, they will get in your way
the air over leaf systems works by taking your stock leaf pack and removing all but 1 leaf (mono leaf), the bag brackets go on next, and then you can stick a 3-4" block on top of it all. you will however need to notch the rear frame if you wanted it to lay out.
they have a decent picture on their site..you just have to picture a block under that axle to get you low...then when you want it back up in the air, PSST..you set.
http://www.cardomain.com/id/low89_s10 this guy here has the air over leaf setup, and he gets it pretty low..mine you, he doesnt have a notch in the back, so if he did, the rear would be about 3" lower
lowriderbowtie
04-29-05, 11:53 AM
and ya, it does depend on your wheel and tire size..i forgot to account for that
Yeah I have spindles in the front and 3 in blocks in the back. If I have to take the wells out then I will but I wanna have that closed off from the engine so trailer fenders will work I guess but will I have to relocate anything in the engine bay area (I have a v6 if that means anything). Im guessing that Ill have to cut the bumpstops out and put news one in which is all cool with me but am I gunna need or is it recomended to put in tubular control arms? Any ideas?
lowriderbowtie
04-29-05, 11:55 AM
no you dont need thoes...its completly up to you
stock control arms work fine
Yeah I have spindles in the front and 3 in blocks in the back. If I have to take the wells out then I will but I wanna have that closed off from the engine so trailer fenders will work I guess but will I have to relocate anything in the engine bay area (I have a v6 if that means anything). Im guessing that Ill have to cut the bumpstops out and put news one in which is all cool with me but am I gunna need or is it recomended to put in tubular control arms? Any ideas?
yes you will have to relocate alot. what year is your truck? your ABS will have to be moved as well as your ECU, coolant overflow bottle, washer fluid bottle and other stuff i'm forgetting. what wheel/tire combe are you planning on running? if its a big combo then there is even more work involved in getting it to lay
Sweet. Ok as far as the AIROVERLEAF setup goes I looked and the website and found a picture of what it is and it looks like it is a really good setup and is relatively sheap so Im thinking Ill prolly go with that to then but my next question is that on the description it says to remove a couple leafs from the leaf pack ,and Im guessing their talking about the stock ones, because the bag will restore lost load capacity so... Are drop leafs a waste then to or should I invest in them also just to keep my ride from riding like **** or is it a waste?
My truck is a 99 noma x cab and Im planning on running 18s and the right size tires to keep my speedo in sync so Im guessing something along the lines of a 245/35 or 245/45 idk what is closer to the stock wheel tire height but thats what Im looking to match up.
i think you will be fine with the stock connecting leaf and the overload leaf. keep in mind that a 3/4 link is a MUCH better way to do it. i considered getting the air over leaf, but i decided to do it the right way first and not sink any money into the air over leaf kit. but its all up to you
What setup did you run instead? I wanna do a full air ride but Ive never undertaking anything that big before and I dont wanna sink a bunch of money into this with somebody installing it for me so Im trying to just go straight bolt ons that I can do myself.
i saved for a bridge kit and his bolt on 3 link kit. well its about 90% bolt on. i'm running bags over the axle. yeah if your having someone instal it for you it really makes the price jump. but bolt on kits are more expensive then weld on kits. if you want to do a 3/4 link, and your having a shop do it, it may be cheaper just to get a weld on 4 link and let them install it.
if you go the air over leaf route, why cant you install it yourself? theres nothing to it really and it would save you some cash
lowriderbowtie
04-29-05, 06:27 PM
true...the best way is 3 or 4 link, but for the price of the air over leaf, its not really alot of cash and you can alway upgrade in the future.
and ya, just break your stock leafs down to the longest and shortest, stuff a block in there, and your set. its better to use your stock leafs cause they are stiffer than drop leafs...and stock leafs are free, drop leafs arent
have fun with it man
Minitrucker4lyfe
04-29-05, 06:38 PM
Why don't you checkout the air ridetechnologys roadgrater kit it is a really really nice bolt on kit and it will lay.
I think I might just hold off and do it the right way. I can go bolt on with that roadgrater kit and itll be bad ass and hopefully easy enough to do. Hopefully in the time between me saving my money and when I can actually afford to buy a kit the roadgrater will be one upped by some other kit and I can afford to buy it because they make it cheaper..... haha like thatll happen. Ohh well til that day I can only hope.
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