Egr Limiters 4 Sale

[Joker2040]

Ok here is the low down guys... I'm going to make a batch of EGR limiters. I'm well aware of you being able restrict the EGR flow by buying 2 EGR gaskets and a piece of sheet metal. However, if you want an actual machined EGR Limiter like the one shown then post up. I need to get an idea of how many guys want if any.

THIS ITEM IS NOW FOR SALE IN THE S10PLANET STORE LOCATED AT http://store.s10planet.com

http://s10planet.com/forum/Mike/EGR.jpg

[Maxx]

I will take 2... if possible. For my 2001 and my buddies 1998

[Joker2040]

Ok so the list so far is...

1. Maxx -- 2
2. ???
3. ???
4. ???

[steves1991]

Im dumb with motors but what does an egr limiter do??? and what are its benefits??? and why are egr valves so damn hard to change???

[steves1991]

and could you machine out a custom bowtie for an s-10??? like one that has chevrolet etched into it???

[Sparky2263]

Here's what GM says;



General Information

Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) System Descriptionhttp://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/34857699/34858149/34849881/85695907/86454146/98877536
The control module (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/56218937/57612703) command exclusively operates the linear exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) valve (1). The control module monitors the following various engine parameters:

The Throttle Position (TP) sensor

The Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/34857030/34857526))
The Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor
The EGR pintle position sensor
Output messages are then sent to the EGR system indicating the proper amount of exhaust gas (2) recirculation, with intake air (3), necessary in order to lower the combustion temperatures. This electronic metering of exhaust gas is 10 times faster than the vacuum-operated models as well as an improved diagnostic capabilities.

Positioned at the top of the linear EGR assembly are 5 terminal.

http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/34857699/34858149/34849881/85695907/86454146/86454151
A pulse width modulated signal from the VCM enters the valve through an electrical connector which energizes the solenoid, or bobbin and coil, assembly (3). This causes the armature assembly (4), (6) to be pulled upward, lifting the pintle (5) a variable amount off the base.

The exhaust gas then flows from the exhaust manifold through the orifice into the intake manifold. The pintle position sensor (2) reads the height of the pintle, and the control module (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/56218937/57612703) closes the loop on a desired position versus the actual position read. This changes the pulse width modulated command to the solenoid accordingly, until the actual pintle position equals the desired pintle position.

The linear EGR valve is unique in that the control module (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/56218937/57612703) continuously monitors the pintle position. The control module adjusts the pintle position in order to obtain accurate flow, making linear EGR a Closed Loop system.

When the solenoid is de-energized, or the control module (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/56218937/57612703) breaks the circuit, the pintle seals against the orifice, blocking the exhaust flow to the intake manifold.

Purpose

The Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) system lowers the oxides of nitrogen (NOx) emission levels created by the high combustion temperatures.

Operation

The EGR valve (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/34857699/34872079) will open when the conditions of operation have been met. This allows the exhaust gasses to re-enter the combustion chamber. When too much exhaust gas is allowed to enter the chamber, the proper combustion will not occur. For this reason, only very little exhaust gas is allowed to re-enter the combustion chamber.

(Courtesy General Motors)

Now, that's what GM says. Bottom line, allowing exhaust gas (inert air, cannot support combustion) to mix with the incoming air/fuel mixture DOES lower combustion chamber temps. allowing increased timing w/o the associated "pinging". So, it's an easy, popular fix.

Highly effecient engines (Quad-4, Eco-Tec, etc.) don't even use egr valves. Why is that? They are also very powerful (hp per cu. in.). They efficiently burn the a/f mixture w/o the high combustion chamber temps. due to their design (4 valve, overhead cam).

What does this mean for us? Well, it ain't gonna get us fuel mileage points, that's for sure. BUT, by restricting or eliminating egr, we have more oxygen available for combustion. Which means..........

BINGO! The MAF will see more air, allowing for more fuel delivery. We derive our power from the fuel, so, at part throttle, the engine will become more powerful (efficient? ehhh) resulting in part throttle driveability increases.

I restricted mine first, then totally eliminated it. Big difference. But, pre-95 you use a chip to compensate (for elimination). Most 95 and later, you restrict it w/o a program. Works like a champ.

But remember, it does nothing for full throttle as egr has no effect there (no egr operation at full throttle).

[Joker2040]

This mod goes hand in hand with the throttle body restrictor plate mod.

There was at one time a "how to" on doing the egr mod with the one that I'm machining. I don't know where it ran off to though.

[rlith]

how about doing up some of the plates for the 92-95 engines?

[Joker2040]

how about doing up some of the plates for the 92-95 engines?

I'll have to look into this... I don't have one to test it on though.

[Joker2040]

So is it just 2?

[Mike 92S10]

1/8" holes in the plates for the pre '94's works fine. Will only throw a code occasionally. 1/8" mild steel is a decent material to work with. I've made several in the past with no complaints. I don't have time now to make any or I would help ya' out.

[99zq85spd]

Im in for 1

[Maxx]

Don't worry about my order. Getting headers and tuning out the egr.

[T Man]

Cmon guys, help suppport the planet and make it self sufficient.

[DavidH71]

Ill take one for my 98 4.3

[Joker2040]

1. 99zq85spd -- 1

2. DavidH71 -- 1

3. ???

4. ???

5. ???


I'm looking to get atleast 5 before I make some. I'll give it a little bit longer but if I don't get 5 then I'll get you 2 guys the ones you want. I WILL NOT shaft anyone and not provide what I'm offering.

[Sparky2263]

I'll be making one for my 89 TBI (vacuum style, non-electronic) soon. So, if anybody wants one of those (Joker is making the later ones) holla at me.

[DavidH71]

ive been tryin to get one of these for awile, im kinda late on the s10 scene and missed em when they were popular, but i was just wondering about how much they would be, money's not a problem i would just like an idea if ya could. thanks alot man

[Joker2040]

What does $35 shipped to your door sound like?

[viper500hcp]

id like one, but how would i go about paying you for it? i dont have paypal

[DavidH71]

sounds good to me man, cashiers check ok?

[aaflyboy]

i will take one as well .. its for a 1993 s10 blazer .... and i do have pay-a-pal ..... aaflyboy

[DavidH71]

by the way i started a thread in s10forum.com to help get this goin a little bit, i hope it helps

[dustin02sonoma]

yea i seen it

[ssdime8238]

i would like one also....they work on 96 and up right?

[sockjock]

New member here. So do you have the EGR limiters for '95 Blazer 4.3 CPI? If so how much?

[Joker2040]

New member here. So do you have the EGR limiters for '95 Blazer 4.3 CPI? If so how much?

pre 96 is a different limiter but I can do those also. It would be a different group buy. If you want then I can start a thread for you.

[Joker2040]

id like one, but how would i go about paying you for it? i dont have paypal

I'll take a cashiers check or money order... They only thing is you'll have to wait for it to clear before I ship it out.

[Joker2040]

So far the list is:

1. 99zq85spd -- 1

2. DavidH71 -- 1

3. viper500hcp -- 1

4. ssdime8238 -- 1

5. ???

Now this is for the 96-01 limiters. I'll start another thread for the pre 96 ones later today when I get home. I'm at work right now and I don't have any pictures of them on my work computer.

[sockjock]

Yeah...quote me a price and if it's reasonable...I'm in.

ps That's for '95 4.3L CPI

[T Man]

I think sparky was gonna get some cpi ones made up.

[Joker2040]

You are looking at around $20-$25 for pre 96 ones that are CNC machined. Here is a pic of the pre 96 limiter....

http://s10planet.com/forum/Mike/2389CPI_res.jpg

Sparky, if you want to do this then let me know.

[viper500hcp]

Joker, wouldnt the pre 96 work just as well on the 96 up? it appears to be the same shape, whether its the same size, i dont know, plus it would be easier to install the pre 96 ones. at least i would think so

[Joker2040]

Honestly, I'm not for sure. I've never tried it on one. I did the other one on my 2001 because it was easy and just went inline with the actual egr line.

[Joker2040]

I don't have my s10 anymore so I can't test it out.

[Joker2040]

I don't see why wth plate wouldn't fit. So It's up to you guys. I know the plate will work for pre 96 and the fitting will work with 96-01. That being said I'm not going to tell you that the plate will work for 96-01 without testing it myself because I want to be able to stand behind what is sold and guarantee it.

[viper500hcp]

hey joker, i respect that man, so still count me in for the inline fitting

and could you post a how too on this, i figure just remove the belt and ac unit then unscrew the egr and put the fitting it, is it that easy?

[Joker2040]

I didn't have to take off any of the ac stuff or belt. I'll see if I can't get you guys a how to.

[rat]

Both parts shown look to be of very high qualitly, coming from a sumertime machinist. My boss always says if it looks like crap it probably is, but if it looks good it probably is good. Goes for a lot of things.

Joker, wouldnt the pre 96 work just as well on the 96 up? it appears to be the same shape, whether its the same size, i dont know, plus it would be easier to install the pre 96 ones. at least i would think so
The gasket is the same part number, so it would probably bolt on. However the egr valve to a/c compressor braket looks like it could be a problem.

hey joker, i respect that man, so still count me in for the inline fitting

and could you post a how too on this, i figure just remove the belt and ac unit then unscrew the egr and put the fitting it, is it that easy?
That is the easiest way to get to the egr fitting.

A 3/8" socket to remove the belt. And the 4 13mm ish bolts for the compressor. One of them may be imposible to get to with a ratchet, so a 1/2" wrench, or an adjustable can substitute for that one. Don't take any of the fittings off of the a/c compressor, just unbolt it and set it aside with the plumbing atatched. The egr tube is a pain to try to wrastle into place in a cluttered space. It is right under the back of the a/c compressor.

Here is a picture, the egr valve is missing, but you can see the fitting that you have to get to.
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5448/egrlocation2hc.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=egrlocation2hc.jpg)
(click to view full size)

[Joker2040]

We are still at:

1. 99zq85spd -- 1

2. DavidH71 -- 1

3. viper500hcp -- 1

4. ssdime8238 -- 1

5. ???

Who is going to be the 5th person for the 96-01 EGR Limiters?

[viper500hcp]

hey Rat, i already new where it was, but i thank you anyway for taking the time to post, you do a lot of good around the boards, thanx

and Joker, can we still get these even if you dont get your 5?

[Joker2040]

hey Rat, i already new where it was, but i thank you anyway for taking the time to post, you do a lot of good around the boards, thanx

and Joker, can we still get these even if you dont get your 5?

I'd like to get atleast 5 but I'll give it until the middle of next week and see how it goes.

[4lowlife]

Jot me down for one. I'll send money via m/o.

[ssdime8238]

sweet that makes 5....i want one of these bad.

[Joker2040]

Check your PM's

[Texashorsepower]

To answer a previous question - "Will the plate style that goes under thr egr valve with the two egr valve gaskets work"?

YES it works, i'm a machinist myself and made one just like the picture oh, a year or so ago out of T6 6061 Aluminum. It's on my 1997 4X4 Blazer and have had no problems with it.

In my oppinion it's easier to put on, adjust hole size if needed to stop it from throwing any codes, and remove (if ever needed) than the inline pipe fitting and the only thing you need to remove it is a socket the size of the two bolts and 2 mins. (if that) of your time -

I hope this helps make up some minds and answer some questions about the interchange. Have a good one guys & gals ~



THP

[Mike 92S10]

Definitely works. I've made several for different people and have got nothing but good responses. The TBI's are easier to deal with but the CPI's work well to. Their just a little harder to satisfie the old SES light.

[jlp7t]

There was at one time a "how to" on doing the egr mod with the one that I'm machining. I don't know where it ran off to though.

I've got a copy from ages ago. I'll post it on my personal site, someone please take it and repost here on the forums as my IP address isn't guaranteed static and I'm not on here often enough anymore to keep it updated.

http://70.179.99.86:90/EGR%20MOD%20@%20S10PLANET_COM.htm

[kustomizer]

how much you going to be asking for one i have 02 4.3 thanxs scott

[rat]

how much you going to be asking for one i have 02 4.3 thanxs scott
You don't have egr in the first place, so this isn't for you.

[Joker2040]

I've got a copy from ages ago. I'll post it on my personal site, someone please take it and repost here on the forums as my IP address isn't guaranteed static and I'm not on here often enough anymore to keep it updated.

http://70.179.99.86:90/EGR%20MOD%20@%20S10PLANET_COM.htm

Awesome.... I saved it and I'll get it up on here.

THANKS!

[sockjock]

Sign me up for one for my 95 Blazer. PM me when you're ready to proceed. ps what kinda performance gain should I expect and will I notice it on the street?



You are looking at around $20-$25 for pre 96 ones that are CNC machined. Here is a pic of the pre 96 limiter....

http://s10planet.com/forum/Mike/2389CPI_res.jpg

Sparky, if you want to do this then let me know.

[T Man]

Improved throttle response, better mpg

[sockjock]

sounds good...when can I get one? I can do paypal. Somebody hook me up here.

[Joker2040]

sounds good...when can I get one? I can do paypal. Somebody hook me up here.

Ok well I'll start a group buy on these. It will cost $28 and that includes shipping. So if you want one like sockjock then post up.

1. sockjock -- 1
2. ???
3. ???
4. ???
5. ???

[sockjock]

Bump

[99zq85spd]

Just got mine from Joker yesterday and it looks great! Post up people and get one for yourselfs!!

[Finkle]

alrite guys i just saw this post can believe i missed it,
but i was doin a bit of reading, with my wynjammer blower my injectors on my 00 4.3 are already maxed out, how would i go about throwing more fuel into the motor when the injectors cant? or are the injectors gettin maxed out at when i hit 6-7psi?
can we still get some?

[super67chevy2]

Yeah, I missed out on these last time. If your still selling them let me know, I'll take one.

[Joker2040]

Currently the people who want the pre 96 ones are:

1. sockjock -- 1
2. ???
3. ???
4. ???
5. ???

Now the people that want the 96-01 are:

1. super67chevy2 (member.php?u=677) -- 1
2. ???
3. ???
4. ???
5. ???

If and when we reach 5 people in either category I'll get a batch made up.

[Blazer69]

is a plate worth it for my truck? i'm kinda dumb with this stuff

[Rex]

Il take one ans long as itl work on my '96 4.3

[T Man]

is a plate worth it for my truck? i'm kinda dumb with this stuff



Absolutely.

[Joker2040]

Rex and Blazer69 ::: Do you guys want the plate or the inline EGR Limiter? If you read back a few pages you should find all of the info you need to make your choice.

[Blazer69]

whicdh is easier to install? thats the one i'll take...lol

[Joker2040]

I've never installed a plate but most guys say it's the easiest. I've installed several of the inline ones and I've gotten pretty good at installing them. You just have to work with them. If you want some more opinions though just post up a new thread about them or PM one of the guys that just bought one in the last group buy. I'd rather you get opinions from several different people and be happy with your choice then just listen to me and possibly be happy.

[ssdime8238]

just got mine today, looks badass and it wasnt hard to install took like a 45 mins if that. thanx joker

[Finkle]

hey joker i want one for my 2000 4.3L but im just concerned about the fueling q i posted? as long as u think it will be fine with my boosted application put me down man

[rat]

hey joker i want one for my 2000 4.3L but im just concerned about the fueling q i posted? as long as u think it will be fine with my boosted application put me down man
Egr is off durring wot when you are under boost. Seperate systems, you can use the egr limiter no problems. It won't affect your fueling better or worse.

[95sdime]

ill take one...but how much r they? and how easy r they to install?

[rat]

ill take one...but how much r they? and how easy r they to install?
Don't you have a 4cyl? This is for the 4.3's.

[4lowlife]

I installed my limiter by removing the serpentine belt and the (4) 13mm bolts holding the AC compressor down. After a few days, a code came up, egr restriction. I removed the limiter and reamed it out w/ a 5/8 inch masonary bit. I ruined my high temp paint working on it. I smothered some high temp anti seize on it instead. No problems since April 1st.

[Joker2040]

Currently the people who want the pre 96 (plate) ones are:

1. sockjock -- 1
2. ???
3. ???
4. ???
5. ???

Now the people that want the 96-01 (inline just like the batch the other guys bought) are:

1. super67chevy2 -- 1
2. ???
3. ???
4. ???
5. ???

If you aren't on this list and you want to be then simply copy the list and paste it into the quick reply box and replace one of the ??? with your name and how many you want.

[Joker2040]

I installed my limiter by removing the serpentine belt and the (4) 13mm bolts holding the AC compressor down. After a few days, a code came up, egr restriction. I removed the limiter and reamed it out w/ a 5/8 inch masonary bit. I ruined my high temp paint working on it. I smothered some high temp anti seize on it instead. No problems since April 1st.

I have never touched the AC compressor when I installed one. It might make it easier if I did but I always worked around it.

As for the service engine light... Some people get them and some don't. If you just wanted to attempt to prevent it then you could go ahead and drill it out a little more before you put it on to prevent having to take it off and drilling it out then re-installing.

[4lowlife]

EDIT: It was a 5/32 inch drill bit. NOT 5/8! I was tired when I posted that.

I installed the EGER limiter without modifying it to see if the SES would come on. I figured it would. It didn't flash on until about 55 miles after the restricter was installed.
So far no problems. I feel it's a worthy mod.

[Blazer69]

i'll take an inline one....does it come with instructions or anything...if not i'll figure it out

[Blazer69]

let me know who and when to send money and how much

[Joker2040]

Currently the people who want the pre 96 (plate) ones are:

1. sockjock -- 1
2. ???
3. ???
4. ???
5. ???

Now the people that want the 96-01 (inline just like the batch the other guys bought) are:

1. super67chevy2 -- 1
2. Blazer69 -- 1
3. ???
4. ???
5. ???

[Joker2040]

When we get 5 you can send the money to me. It'll be $35 including shipping.

let me know who and when to send money and how much

[Blazer69]

how do these affect emissions? will the truck still pass or not?

[Joker2040]

I've never had to run my truck on an emissions test. Guys?

[Sparky2263]

The measurement would be NOx. If it was high (doubtful) all that would be required would be a slightly larger hole.

[Finkle]

ill take one for my 2000 4.3

[Joker2040]

Currently the people who want the pre 96 (plate) ones are:

1. sockjock -- 1
2. ???
3. ???
4. ???
5. ???

Now the people that want the 96-01 (inline just like the batch the other guys bought) are:

1. super67chevy2 -- 1
2. Blazer69 -- 1
3. Finkle -- 1
4. ???
5. ???

[Blazer69]

not sure if i asked already but do these have instructions or is there a tech article on here for them?

[Joker2040]

http://www.s10planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5165

not sure if i asked already but do these have instructions or is there a tech article on here for them?

[91s104x4]

by blocking the EGR totally on a TBI, will it throw a CEL?

[Sparky2263]

Yes, unless you get a custom chip designed to eliminate the egr (amongst other things a custom chip can do).

[Mike 92S10]

by blocking the EGR totally on a TBI, will it throw a CEL?

1/8" holes are about as small as you go and not throw a code on pre '94 TBI. I still get a SES about once a month. I've had my plate in for about 3 years now.

[kustomizer]

Yeah I Like To Have One Also Count Me In Im In Eastern Kenyucky Thanxs Scott

[Joker2040]

Yeah I Like To Have One Also Count Me In Im In Eastern Kenyucky Thanxs Scott

What year is your truck? If you are talking about the one int your profile (2002) then you won't need this mod.

[kustomizer]

yes i would like to have one for my 02 s-10 with a 4.3 count me in

[Joker2040]

yes i would like to have one for my 02 s-10 with a 4.3 count me in

lol... did you read my post right above yours? If you have a 2002 then you don't need this mod. GM fixed the issue in 2002 so the inline EGR Limiters only apply to the 96-01 4.3L.

[94s10]

1/8" holes are about as small as you go and not throw a code on pre '94 TBI. I still get a SES about once a month. I've had my plate in for about 3 years now.

my 94 TBI threw a code on the highway only with a/c on. a/c off no problems. the truck didnt run any different though with the CEL on. after shutting it off and restarting, the CEL was gone everytime.

btw i have one of the plates made by Mike 92S10. i no longer need it as i am not TBI anymore. if anyone wants it shoot me a PM

[Joker2040]

Who is going to be the 5th person in the list?

What about you other 4 guys? Do you still want one?

[sockjock]

Yeah... I still want one for my 95 and I would also like one for my 97. I think that makes 5 on the 96up list. Let me know when you're ready to do something.

[Joker2040]

The reason I ask is because I'm getting ready to leave for India in about 2 weeks. I'm going there to train some people for about 2 months.

If you want one of the 96-01 inline egr limiters then send me a PM and I'll get with you more on payment info.

[super67chevy2]

Hands down the best $35 I've ever spent. Took me 30 mins. to install, and the gains were well worth it.

[rlith]

Add me to the 92-95 ones... Can you mill the hole at 5/32?

[Joker2040]

How many other guys want the 92-95 ones?

I still have some for the 96-01 yrs laying around if anyone wants one of those.

I need to know soon because it's just a matter of time before I leave for India. I'll have internet access there but I won't be able to get any of these shipped out from there. lol...

[Joker2040]

Make sure you check with me prior to sending money!

[Joker2040]

Ok I have 2 inline EGR limiters left right now.

[EN1Blazer]

If you still have any left I'll take one for my 96.

[Joker2040]

If you still have any left I'll take one for my 96.

Check your email.

[EN1Blazer]

Received EGR Valve today. Looks awesome. Can't wait to install it tomorrow. Thanks Joker2040. Didn't take but 4 day's to receive the EGR limiter. I'll post again after install.

[Joker2040]

If you need any help installing it then hit me up.

[EN1Blazer]

That was the BEST $35.00 that I ever spent on the Blazer! I notice a quicker throttle response, and i notice the power that I gained. Not much, but it doesn't take as much throttle to get going. I reamed it out with a 5/32" drill so I wouldn't have any problems with the computer. I did remove the (4) 1/2" A/C bolts and moved the compressor out of the way. The only thing that I would recommend is to have a 7/8" wrench for the threaded egr pipe. In all it took me about 45 min to 1 hour. By far one of the cheapest mods, and well worth it. Well Joker2040 thank's for the EGR valve. Like I said It was the best $35.00 that I ever spent. Jim

[jlp7t]

I have one of the 96-01 versions of these that I never installed for sale. $30 shipped to the lower 48 states. E-mail jlp7t@hotmail.com if you're interested.

[Krazny]

Any left?

Need one for a 96. . .

[jlp7t]

Mine is sold!

[Joker2040]

I've got one of the S10Planet's left. I'm selling it for $35 shipped. If I was you I would go for the one jlp7t has for sell since it is 5 bucks cheaper.

[Joker2040]

Oh and if more people want some I'll make up another batch. Just waiting on you guys.

[Memphis Raines]

Are there any egr limiters left and will it work on an '02

[j894]

02 shouldnt have an egr,
so you prbobably wont be able to use it

[Joker2040]

02 should have an egr,
so you prbobably wont be able to use it

Correct!

[j894]

Arg typo, I meant shouldn't, have an egr.
dang firefox glitch

[Memphis Raines]

Well I guess next time I will check first. Thanks for the replies. I am just looking for some more low cost hp adds that I can do before I get into the big money adds.

[Rob_0126]

If I buy this 1991 S-10 Blazer, would you be able to machine one up for me? Or do I need another cpu for it to work right?

[j894]

This wont work you you because the EGR system is different on the older models.
You would just have to make a restrictor or blockoff plate out of sheet metal.

[Rob_0126]

This wont work you you because the EGR system is different on the older models.
You would just have to make a restrictor or blockoff plate out of sheet metal.

ok, thanks. I made one for my elky when i had it. Took the old egr spacer, and some jb weld, and made one. lol

Course, they sold some blockers at napa.

[Rob_0126]

This wont work you you because the EGR system is different on the older models.
You would just have to make a restrictor or blockoff plate out of sheet metal.

btw, If I block the egr like I did my 79 elky, would the puter throw codes?

[Sparky2263]

Yup, yup. A code 32 to be exact.

[Rob_0126]

Yup, yup. A code 32 to be exact.

is there a way around this?

[Joker2040]

custom flash

[Rob_0126]

custom flash

meh. I do like the TBI setup but I sure do miss the old carb'd simplicity at times. :)

[droopy89]

For the code being set, would a Hypertech programmer fix that?

[Sparky2263]

No. If you block off the egr you need a custom chip (pre-95) or a custom flash (most 95 and up).

[droopy89]

Where would i get a good one of those flashes?

[regisvu]

just wondering... if i suspect my EGR being faulty, would i be able to use this on my 95, rather than buying a new EGR?

[extremesam]

could you please tell me where i could purchase the egr limiter and how much, 1999 4.3 swaltersmena@aol.com

[Hammer Head]

Does anyone know where I could get one for a 4.8 5.3 6.0 truck manifold? Maybe I just need to make one from a piece of rubber & sheet stock.

[Joker2040]

could you please tell me where i could purchase the egr limiter and how much, 1999 4.3 swaltersmena@aol.com

Thanks for the payment. Your limiter will be sent out Monday morning.

[Rob_0126]

Thanks for the payment. Your limiter will be sent out Monday morning.

Is it possible to trick the computer on a 91 4.3? Maybe some type of device that you could put on the end of the vacuum that goes to the egr valve, so the solenoid will be tricked?

I know slapping an egr valve on there would do the trick but thats a bit expensive and the opening of vacuum would be a problem.

[Joker2040]

Does anyone know where I could get one for a 4.8 5.3 6.0 truck manifold? Maybe I just need to make one from a piece of rubber & sheet stock.

Does this look like the same one on those manifolds? http://s10planet.com/forum/Mike/2389CPI_res.jpg

[Joker2040]

Is it possible to trick the computer on a 91 4.3? Maybe some type of device that you could put on the end of the vacuum that goes to the egr valve, so the solenoid will be tricked?

I know slapping an egr valve on there would do the trick but thats a bit expensive and the opening of vacuum would be a problem.

What exactly do you want to do? Why not have a custom chip?

[Rob_0126]

What exactly do you want to do? Why not have a custom chip?

trying to save money; Ive dumped over 2 grand in my truck so far. It's where I want it to be now; just the engine check light pops on sometimes, and I was told when it throws the code, it changes the spark curve. Just want the computer to quit it. If I could fool the solenoid into thinking the egr is fine, that would work. I was thinking something similar to the egr but of course, not one.

[Rangerfan2.9]

Ill take one for my 1995 4.3 tbi vortec. im not sure which one i need, the plate or the other thing?..also anyone got any reccomendations for a good throttle body spacer for my engine?

[Joker2040]

Ill take one for my 1995 4.3 tbi vortec. im not sure which one i need, the plate or the other thing?..also anyone got any reccomendations for a good throttle body spacer for my engine?

You need one of the plates. Those are $25 each including shipping. My paypal id is mikejohnson2040@hotmail.com If you want to pay using a different method then let me know.

[Rangerfan2.9]

hey does anyone know if this will throw a code on my 95 tbi

[hvdutra]

This EGR limiter fit in a 95 S-10 aut vortec vin"W"?

[Joker2040]

The plates will work for 95's and you shouldn't throw a code. If you do then you can just drill the hole out a little bigger. The inline EGR limiters are for 96-01 trucks.

[jdhogg]

yup ill take one

[hop]

I'd like one for a 93 4.3 vortec if you have anymore. Thanks.

[chevyracing55]

i'd take one for a 99 4.3 if u have any.

[Joker2040]

ok guys... sorry for the delay but this holiday stuff has me tied up.

Anyway, You guys need a total of 2 pre 96 plates and 1 96-01 inline limiter... Correct?

You can paypal me at mikejohnson2040@hotmail.com and I'll get them shipped out as soon as I get them made. It might take just a little bit because of the holidays.

The pre 96 plates cost $25.00
The 96-01 inline limiters cost $35.00

[hop]

1 pre 96 plates pymt in route. Greg

[Rockrz]

02 S-10s with 4.3L don't have EGRs???
What year did they quit coming with an EGR Valve?

I'm just curious cause I'm going to be buying a newer S-10 soon and I'd like to know what year GM started delivering 4.3L engines without EGRs.

[rat]

02 S-10s with 4.3L don't have EGRs???
What year did they quit coming with an EGR Valve?

I'm just curious cause I'm going to be buying a newer S-10 soon and I'd like to know what year GM started delivering 4.3L engines without EGRs.
2002+ for the s10/blazer's. The full size trucks might be different, not sure.

[Rockrz]

k00L, I'll plan on getting at least a 2002 model.
I'd kinda like to get a 2004 model.

Wasn't that the last year they made S-10s?

[j894]

nope I believe there were '04 in the crewcab model only? & i know they had '05 2dr blazers Then it was done

[1badzq8]

does this mod help with performance or what. also how much do they cost

[rat]

does this mod help with performance or what. also how much do they cost
Part throttle response only.

It won't help or hurt 1/4 mile performance in any way as egr isn't active then.

[Joker2040]

also how much do they cost

$35 shipped to your door for years 1996 to 2001

[1badzq8]

are there any real noticable differences(good or bad) i dont want to spend the money if its not worth it

[Joker2040]

are there any real noticable differences(good or bad) i dont want to spend the money if its not worth it

Since I'm selling these I'll let someone else elaborate on this.

[87wildside]

Do you still have the plates? My engine is a '90 4.3

[Joker2040]

Do you still have the plates? My engine is a '90 4.3

Yes... $25 including shipping for the pre 96 plates.

[tinman]

Do you still have the ones for 01 4.3? Thanks.

[Joker2040]

Do you still have the ones for 01 4.3? Thanks.

Sure do! They are $35 shipped to your door.

[tmoney0501]

how hard are they to put in?

[jswag5]

i would like one of the plate ones for my 95 blazer, so pm me and i will get you shipping info and i can get the addy to send a m/o.

[Joker2040]

how hard are they to put in?

Fairly easy but I have installed a bunch of the inline ones so I have it down.

[Joker2040]

i would like one of the plate ones for my 95 blazer, so pm me and i will get you shipping info and i can get the addy to send a m/o.

PM sent

[muslhed]

Are you still selling these? I need one for my 2000 ZR2 Blazer. Also, can I use your Paypal account that was posted back on page 15 of this thread?

mikejohnson2040@hotmail.com

I've been researching this mod for the past several hours, and actually found this website from a literal web of linked threads from various websites! It began from back on the ol' archived ZR2.com....

BTW, this is my first post here! Nice site! http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/Muslhed/Funny%20pics/Emoticons/2thumbs.gif

[87wildside]

Hey, welcome to the Planet!
That is his paypal account but I'm not sure if he currently has any, think he does but not 100% positive. I guess I could have let him answer, oh well

[Joker2040]

As of now... I have 7 inline style EGR limiters.

[Joker2040]

oh and that is the correct paypal address

[muslhed]

I would like a steel one. Paypal payment will be on its' way shortly. Does the $35 include shipping? Thank you!

EDIT: Payment of $35 sent via PayPal.

[muslhed]

Rewceived and installed! Thank you!

[muslhed]

Here's some pics of the EGR Limiter as I received it, painted up and then installed...for those that have not seen it:CLICK (http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/Muslhed/ZR2%20Blazer%20mods/V6%20Motor%20Parts/EGR%20Limiter)

[Joker2040]

Here's some pics of the EGR Limiter as I received it, painted up and then installed...for those that have not seen it:CLICK (http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/Muslhed/ZR2%20Blazer%20mods/V6%20Motor%20Parts/EGR%20Limiter)

looks good

[nmband13]

I'd like a steel one, where do i send the money?
email is: nmband13@yahoo.com

[Joker2040]

You can paypal me ..... mikejohnson2040@hotmail.com

[nmband13]

$35.00 sent via paypal, along with the mailing address

[Joker2040]

I'll have it out Monday.

[rockininthezr2]

im wanting one of those EGR limiters as well. paypal, it is? :)

[Joker2040]

paypal $35 to sales@jokerwebhosting.com for one of the inline 96-01 limiters

[12sws27]

im interested in one of those,but will i need some kinda computer tuning, i have a hypertech III program installed. is that good enough? also how do i mod the tb restictor plate?

[Joker2040]

You don't have to do any computer tuning. As for the TB plate mod just do a search on here and you'll find tons of information.

[FrostEOne]

Joker2040,do you still have these inline 96-01 limiters ready to ship?

[americasfuture2k]

i have a 98 4.3, would that work with an obd II vehical? and is it for this year motor?

[Mikz86TA]

1998 is definately ODB2. Just for reference though, you do have a different ECM/PCM than my 2003. Easiest way to tell is the earlier ECM is black and the later one is aluminum. I believe it has mostly to do with emission controls but if you ever do a PCM/ECM tuner program, there are usually different ones for the different ECM/PCM. I dont remeber the changover year but it was around 2000-2001

[Joker2040]

i have a 98 4.3, would that work with an obd II vehical? and is it for this year motor?

Yes... It will work on 96-01 4.3's. I also have a plate that will work for pre 96.

[vernonblazer]

If this works on a 2000 4.3 vortec, I will take one. Will this cause the computer to throw a code and turn the check engine light on? If not, I will definetly take one. That would definetly help seeings how most of my driving is on local streets.

[Joker2040]

If this works on a 2000 4.3 vortec, I will take one. Will this cause the computer to throw a code and turn the check engine light on? If not, I will definetly take one. That would definetly help seeings how most of my driving is on local streets.

Yes it will work. It shouldn't throw a code but if it does you will have to take the limiter off then drill the hole bigger.

[loren667]

Ill take 1, and also how much will it cost

[Rockrz]

Oh boy...nothing like a Bigger HOLE!!! http://bestsmileys.com/blushing/6.gif

[xtreme2424]

If you still have some,
I would love to get one.
Thanks

[98'S-Dime]

Hey everyone this is my first post on the planet. been a guest for a long time so i figured i might as well get involved a little. if you are still doing the EGR limiters chalk me up for one. thanks

[Joker2040]

I've got a couple sitting around. You can paypal me $35 and I'll ship one to your door... This is for the years 96-01.

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Hey, could you make one for the 2.2L I-4? I've got a '94 that could really benefit from it in drivability.

[Nick207]

Hey Joker, do you still have the '96 and up inline EGR limiters available? If so let me know and I'll Paypal $35 to the address you posted. Thanks.

[Joker2040]

Hey Joker, do you still have the '96 and up inline EGR limiters available? If so let me know and I'll Paypal $35 to the address you posted. Thanks.

Yes sir I sure do!

[Nick207]

Great, thanks, I just Paypaled you $35.

[Joker2040]

I will ship it out in the morning.

[satandole666]

I've got a 94 4.3L. What work (besides installing one of the plates) would I need to do to install this mod? Anything with the computer system?

[Rockrz]

Bottom line, allowing exhaust gas (inert air, cannot support combustion) to mix with the incoming air/fuel mixture DOES lower combustion chamber temps. allowing increased timing w/o the associated "pinging". So, it's an easy, popular fix.

Highly effecient engines (Quad-4, Eco-Tec, etc.) don't even use egr valves. Why is that? They are also very powerful (hp per cu. in.). They efficiently burn the a/f mixture w/o the high combustion chamber temps. due to their design (4 valve, overhead cam).

What does this mean for us? Well, it ain't gonna get us fuel mileage points, that's for sure. BUT, by restricting or eliminating egr, we have more oxygen available for combustion. Which means..........

BINGO! The MAF will see more air, allowing for more fuel delivery. We derive our power from the fuel, so, at part throttle, the engine will become more powerful (efficient? ehhh) resulting in part throttle driveability increases.

I restricted mine first, then totally eliminated it. Big difference. But, pre-95 you use a chip to compensate (for elimination). Most 95 and later, you restrict it w/o a program. Works like a champ.

But remember, it does nothing for full throttle as egr has no effect there (no egr operation at full throttle).

Do '02 and '03 models with 4.3L have EGRs or not???
Someone told me they didn't.

[rat]

Do '02 and '03 models with 4.3L have EGRs or not???
Someone told me they didn't.

No

[Rockrz]

Wow! If '02 and '03 model 4.3L engines don't have EGRs, then they must alot more fuel efficient than previous year models, right?

I hope so...

[Ralph72]

can i get one for my 99 vortech blazer. send me the info to scocope@hotmail.com ill email you back

[boxcarracer963]

i have to take my old egr hose off and put a new one on, so i figured why not get this thing, so i wanna get one of the 96-01 limiters, i dont have paypal but my mom does so ill have her send 35 and have her send my username so u know who its for, thanks

[Joker2040]

Ok guys so I'm out of inline EGR limiters right now. I'm going to make another batch but before I do I need to have at least 10 sold because it is pointless to make just one at a time. This also helps keep the cost of these little boogers down because we only have to setup 1 time and run 10 instead of setting up 10 individual times.

Cost: $35 which includes shipping to anywhere in the US
Paypal: mikejohnson2040@hotmail.com

Below is a list of who has one on order and who has paid. If you want one then go ahead and copy the list below then post it up again with your name added.



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[Hammer Head]

I got the mass email & wanted to let you know I do not need one since my truck is an '02.

[98'S-Dime]

Question. Living in California wont it be difficult to pass smog here with that in?

[Krazny]

Might be interested.

Need to get off my duff and see whats left in the old bank account cause I just bought a 1911.

[csledge]

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[boxcarracer963]

damn i need to replace my egr hose and i just got a fix-it-ticket today for disfunctional exhaust

[BWL_AK_BLAZER]

ok one sec.. kinda new to the s10 world here what is an EGR limiter? I wanna make sure I know what I'm getting before I get too interested lol

nevermind shoulda read first I guess lol

[boxcarracer963]

read the thread

[Y NI Rider]

Ok this might sound like a stupid question but a freind said that 01' - 03' modles are diffrent than 96' - 00' and my truck being an 01' so would it work on my truck?
Oh and I have read the thread. And if it does work why did they remove it for years 02' - 03'.:confused:

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Hey Joker, whadabout guys like me who have only the non-stepper motor EGR on a 2.2L? Can or will you make one for us or what?

[Low594]

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[Joker2040]

Hey Joker, whadabout guys like me who have only the non-stepper motor EGR on a 2.2L? Can or will you make one for us or what?

I haven't really looked into the 2.2's. Is yours a 94?

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Yes, it is... why?

[jman340]

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[White-V-6-S-Ten]

I have an 03 4.3 I dont know if one would work for me and to tell you the truth i Really dont know what they do in the first place.....
Maybe someone can let me in on it thanks!

[boxcarracer963]

u dont have it, 96-01 have it

[northcoastrides]

Although the 5.3 in my dime has no emissions the Astro I just got does and is in dire need of better throttle response and mpg so I'm in...Thanks Joker

[Joker2040]

Updated list... Be sure and add your name and the status of your payment.

If your paypal email address is different from the one listed on s10planet please shoot me a pm with your paypal address. So far I have the following accounted for and paid in full.

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[kissmyss97]

Sorry dudes, already fixed that thing. But good looking out!!!http://www.s10planet.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[csledge]

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[Nickelin'Dimer]

Nevermind Joker, I've already got my sights on a header that will do & require the same.

[rockininthezr2]

you can add me to the list :D . id be happy to help out and ill be getting what i need. i appreciate the email, Mr. Johnson.


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[shaved_ss]

Alright guys,,,,i read through about 7 pages and now im goin crazy. I have a 94 S10 4.3 vortec....i dont know what cpi or anything is since i havent touched the motor yet and new to this, but i wanna get rid of this anoying damn egr. If i get this will i have to get anything programed on the computer or what? I wanna get rid of the egr but yet not have a check engine light always on....i dont dig a night light on the dash. lol.

[FIRME4LIFE]

you can add me to the list :D . id be happy to help out and ill be getting what i need. i appreciate the email, Mr. Johnson.



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[shaved_ss]

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[shaved_ss]

Alright, ive read more. I guess the light just comes on at times im guessing with this mod. Oh well....my egr is F*ed up and i need a fix A.S.A.P. How soon can you get one to me for my 94 4.3 CPI???

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Shaved, replace the valve first, then do the mod. Or at least get some acetone and clean the valve you have with a good soak (Remember: the pintle end only, not the diaphram!).

[shaved_ss]

Will you post up how i clean it, step by step....im new to this engine. You ask me anything on a LS1 and i can handle it....but im not familiar with this egr mumbo jumbo. lol. My camaro is too new to have messed with it.

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Not familiar? Then do a search on this board for a "sticky" done by Jedi Master. That will fill you in on how it works and what it effects when it does work right (And what it effects when it doesn't work right!;) ). As for the soak, just unbolt, set in foil tray filled shallowly with acetone (Available at your local hardware store) so that only the base sits in the liquid to about 3/4 way up the base. Rememeber, you don't want this stuff getting on the diaphram otherwise you will need to get a new one! Let it soak overnight. The next day remove it from the pan & work it back and forth by hand several times by grasping the diaphram with your thumbs on the side with the vacuum nipple and your fingers against the actual diaphram part pushing the diaphram "up" with your fingers then releasing. Then reset the valve back in the acetone as previously instructed to sit for several more hours. Do this repeatedly until the you feel the diaphram/valve move freely up & down then reinstall with a new gasket.

There! That wasn't so hard now was it? If your valve still don't seat fully and causes problems like a code or rough idle, just get a new one and install it as there is probably too hard of carbon built-up on the pintle valve to clean off in any way that would leave the valve reusable.

[Joker2040]

Ok guys we need just a few more people...


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[shaved_ss]

Thanks man, i appreciate it.

Not familiar? Then do a search on this board for a "sticky" done by Jedi Master. That will fill you in on how it works and what it effects when it does work right (And what it effects when it doesn't work right!;) ). As for the soak, just unbolt, set in foil tray filled shallowly with acetone (Available at your local hardware store) so that only the base sits in the liquid to about 3/4 way up the base. Rememeber, you don't want this stuff getting on the diaphram otherwise you will need to get a new one! Let it soak overnight. The next day remove it from the pan & work it back and forth by hand several times by grasping the diaphram with your thumbs on the side with the vacuum nipple and your fingers against the actual diaphram part pushing the diaphram "up" with your fingers then releasing. Then reset the valve back in the acetone as previously instructed to sit for several more hours. Do this repeatedly until the you feel the diaphram/valve move freely up & down then reinstall with a new gaske

There! That wasn't so hard now was it? If your valve still don't seat fully and causes problems like a code or rough idle, just get a new one and install it as there is probably too hard of carbon built-up on the pintle valve to clean off in any way that would leave the valve reusable.

[kidknicky]

I'm interested in getting a bit more punch outa my 4 banger. It's a '96 EXT cab with 4 cyl automatic with overdrive. Would this work in my truck ?
Regards,
Kid

[chaos308]

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[Joker2040]

2 more people...

[Joker2040]

I'm interested in getting a bit more punch outa my 4 banger. It's a '96 EXT cab with 4 cyl automatic with overdrive. Would this work in my truck ?
Regards,
Kid

No. The inline EGR Limiter is for the 96-01 4.3L.

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Someone should design one for us 4-cyl guys, please!

[Joker2040]

Still waiting on the last 2 people.


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[Joker2040]

still waiting....

[northcoastrides]

Come on people step up..heh heh... I just had to pull the intake off my Astro, replacing leaky gaskets "what a PITA" sure would have been nice to have the limiter right now I'm really not looking forward to going back in there, but such is my luck I couldn't wait I was loosing too much coolant out the tailpipe. And what a crap design those factory intake gaskets are once the composite gasket starts to break up at the thermostat port the coolant gets sucked through the gasket along the silicone strip right into the intake port

[Joker2040]

Ok guys I guess we aren't going to wait on the last 2. I'll get these made up ASAP and get them shipped out to everyone.

[northcoastrides]

Sweet! Thank You Joker

[Chile S10]

does anyone knows how much power will I earn on my S10 vortec 4.3 1995 engine ??? any dyno tests available?

Thanks for the answer...

[boxcarracer963]

does anyone knows how much power will I earn on my S10 vortec 4.3 1995 engine ??? any dyno tests available?

Thanks for the answer...
its not a mod for horsepower


Joker, So we should be getting the limiters pretty soon?

[Joker2040]

Joker, So we should be getting the limiters pretty soon?

Yes. I will be shipping them out very soon.

[mjkmn_97]

You seem very knowledgable about egr ellimination. I swaped an 88 blazer 4.3 with a 94 vortec. The 88 motor used a mechanical egr and the 94 uses an electronic. Now you said that you can elliminate the egr with a chip for the computer. HOW?? Where do I get the chip and what do I put in place of the egr. Can you help please??

[bespurcell]

I can't help you with your question but, I will say "Welcome to the Planet."

[Joker2040]

You seem very knowledgable about egr ellimination. I swaped an 88 blazer 4.3 with a 94 vortec. The 88 motor used a mechanical egr and the 94 uses an electronic. Now you said that you can elliminate the egr with a chip for the computer. HOW?? Where do I get the chip and what do I put in place of the egr. Can you help please??

You'll have to put a block off plate in place of the limiter (Which I can get for you.)... As for a custom tune... There are several out there. Make a thread about custom tuning software and/or custom chips and you should get several different opinions.

[65cfleetside]

I would like one also.

[Joker2040]

I would like one also.

The inline ones for 96-01 4.3's are $35 including s/h. If you want one then all you have to do is paypal me at mikejohnson2040@hotmail.com. Make sure that you have your correct mailing address in paypal and please put your username in the comments section of the payment.

Thanks!

[Joker2040]

If you guys don't get your limiters by the end of next week PM me.

[Cameo_S10]

If you guys don't get your limiters by the end of next week PM me.

LOL:D

[Joker2040]

What's so funny?

[Cameo_S10]

What's so funny?

You changed that...it said next year. LOL:D

[twisted'87blaze]

so what would i have to do to either limit or eliminate my egr on a 87 2.8l?

[Low594]

Got mine in the mail, yesterday! Thanks! Just gotta get it put in!

[Joker2040]

so what would i have to do to either limit or eliminate my egr on a 87 2.8l?

Never looked into doing it on a 2.8

[Joker2040]

Got mine in the mail, yesterday! Thanks! Just gotta get it put in!

Cool! There is a how to thread on here explaining the install.

[twisted'87blaze]

it looks exactly liek the egr on my 4.3l 1990 engine so i woudl think its the same setup only difference is it is on the back side of my intake the 4.3 is on the front

[Low594]

Cool! There is a how to thread on here explaining the install.

Couldn't find the thread, even using the search. Gotta link? or is it in the middle of this thread?

[boxcarracer963]

got mine yesterday, looks nice, thanks joker

[bespurcell]

Couldn't find the thread, even using the search. Gotta link? or is it in the middle of this thread?
It's in this thread.

[Joker2040]

Couldn't find the thread, even using the search. Gotta link? or is it in the middle of this thread?

http://www.s10planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5165

It's actually the 2nd thread from the top in the S Series How To section

[shipper]

Did I overlook the dollar amount? If I did, pardon me. I am interested. Always looking for easy, bargain power.

[Joker2040]

Did I overlook the dollar amount? If I did, pardon me. I am interested. Always looking for easy, bargain power.

$35 including shipping

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Uh, I take it there's not enough interest in a pre-'96 2.2L EGR limiter since I haven't heard any feedback on it. From anyone.

[Joker2040]

Uh, I take it there's not enough interest in a pre-'96 2.2L EGR limiter since I haven't heard any feedback on it. From anyone.

Not really...

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Damn, guess I'll need to fab one on my own (Or have someone do it).

[shipper]

OK Joker, you got me. Put me down for one. It's about the only thing left I can do without going internal. Get back to me with an address to send a MO. Thankx for making this for us. We all want the HP but we aren't all blessed with the know-how or the equipment.:D

[Joker2040]

OK Joker, you got me. Put me down for one. It's about the only thing left I can do without going internal. Get back to me with an address to send a MO. Thankx for making this for us. We all want the HP but we aren't all blessed with the know-how or the equipment.:D

PM sent

[boxcarracer963]

I just wanted to add that this was hands-down the easiest/fastest mod for my truck yet. Took me about 5 minutes and i was taking my time.

[Black99]

will you put me down for one? I'll send payment via paypall when you tell me i'm on the list :D

[12sws27]

I just wanted to add that this was hands-down the easiest/fastest mod for my truck yet. Took me about 5 minutes and i was taking my time.
u removed ur ac compressor right? if so that why it took five minutes. not that it take all that much longer with the ac system on its just hard to get to it with the compressor and the thermostat housing in the way.
just thought id post incase someone was thinking "why the hell did it take me so long?" :D

[Joker2040]

will you put me down for one? I'll send payment via paypall when you tell me i'm on the list :D

Check your PM's

[rockininthezr2]

just wanted to say thanks Mr. Mike. I'll be putting my Limiter on next week. Don't we need to open it's port a little more than what it is with a drill or is it set to go?

i saw Brule (HenryJ.) mention that his was setting a code for restricted EGR flow when he first got one a long while back.

[Joker2040]

If it throws a code you can drill it out a little bigger.

[boxcarracer963]

u removed ur ac compressor right? if so that why it took five minutes. not that it take all that much longer with the ac system on its just hard to get to it with the compressor and the thermostat housing in the way.
just thought id post incase someone was thinking "why the hell did it take me so long?" :D
I don't have a/c anymore so I took my a/c delete pulley off, so its basically the same way, I thought that was the only way to do it till I read up on it lol.

[Black99]

I got mine today and installed it! Took about 30 min after figuring out what to take apart and how. (the pressure on the a/c compressor scared me for a while till i just said f-it and pulled it off PSSSS!! :eek: )

I noticed a decent increase in accel (but that's just from the butt-dyno maybe). but i know now that my engine's getting cleaner air so that's a good thought. Next i'm gonna do the TB plate mod without fear!!

A good buy overall for the easy price and simple install.

[boosted_4.3]

put me down for one.

[Joker2040]

put me down for one.

You can purchase them from http://store.s10planet.com.

[1low_s10]

Im interested but need to know some things.1 does it goe into the slot where the egr valve is?Im sure this doesnt replace the egr valve(sorry dumb statement).what year is this for?I have a 98 2.2efi.and finally what is the price?

[Joker2040]

Im interested but need to know some things.1 does it goe into the slot where the egr valve is?Im sure this doesnt replace the egr valve(sorry dumb statement).what year is this for?I have a 98 2.2efi.and finally what is the price?

Won't work on a 2.2... If you go to http://store.s10planet.com it will give you some info about it and tell you what year that it's for.

[1low_s10]

dangit...lol was hoping it would but oh well thanks anyways man

[SCredneck]

Is it possible to still get the plate for a 95 TBI 4.3??

[boosted_4.3]

why cant i make the purchase on the egr limiter

[Joker2040]

why cant i make the purchase on the egr limiter

When you add it to your cart and check out what does it say?

[SCredneck]

Is it possible to still get the plate for a 95 TBI 4.3??
????????

[Joker2040]

????????

Yes it is. I will add them to the store soon.

[SCredneck]

Thanks....anxiously waiting. I think I have seen them somewhere else a while back, can't remember where, but would rather buy it here to help support "the family".

[boosted_4.3]

When you add it to your cart and check out what does it say?


it ether tells me that it dosent reconize my card, or that the ccv and card number dosent match. its the same card i used to get the sticker, so i know it works. and i cant rember my pay pal info.

[Joker2040]

Thanks....anxiously waiting. I think I have seen them somewhere else a while back, can't remember where, but would rather buy it here to help support "the family".

added to the store

[Joker2040]

it ether tells me that it dosent reconize my card, or that the ccv and card number dosent match. its the same card i used to get the sticker, so i know it works. and i cant rember my pay pal info.

I use a 3rd party company (Paypal) to verify credit card info. You could also send a check or money order.

[boosted_4.3]

sweet. i gota wait till next pay check to do that. my son and my family just got back from the hospital

[chaos308]

Got mine installed last week. Unbolted the AC compressor.
Wasn't difficult to do.

It got rid of the "flat spot"/hesitation at about 20-30% throttle.

Oddly that "flat spot" wasn't there if the temps were below ~ 50 deg F or if I had seafoam in the tank.

What can I expect it to to do MPG ?

Thanks !!!

[bespurcell]

I've heard it drops mpg a little. I don't know if it's noticeable though.

[s10-den]

so,what does this do?

[bespurcell]

It does this.Here's what GM says;



General Information

Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) System Descriptionhttp://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/34857699/34858149/34849881/85695907/86454146/98877536
The control module (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/56218937/57612703) command exclusively operates the linear exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) valve (1). The control module monitors the following various engine parameters:

The Throttle Position (TP) sensor

The Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/34857030/34857526))
The Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor
The EGR pintle position sensorOutput messages are then sent to the EGR system indicating the proper amount of exhaust gas (2) recirculation, with intake air (3), necessary in order to lower the combustion temperatures. This electronic metering of exhaust gas is 10 times faster than the vacuum-operated models as well as an improved diagnostic capabilities.

Positioned at the top of the linear EGR assembly are 5 terminal.

http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/34857699/34858149/34849881/85695907/86454146/86454151
A pulse width modulated signal from the VCM enters the valve through an electrical connector which energizes the solenoid, or bobbin and coil, assembly (3). This causes the armature assembly (4), (6) to be pulled upward, lifting the pintle (5) a variable amount off the base.

The exhaust gas then flows from the exhaust manifold through the orifice into the intake manifold. The pintle position sensor (2) reads the height of the pintle, and the control module (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/56218937/57612703) closes the loop on a desired position versus the actual position read. This changes the pulse width modulated command to the solenoid accordingly, until the actual pintle position equals the desired pintle position.

The linear EGR valve is unique in that the control module (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/56218937/57612703) continuously monitors the pintle position. The control module adjusts the pintle position in order to obtain accurate flow, making linear EGR a Closed Loop system.

When the solenoid is de-energized, or the control module (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/56218937/57612703) breaks the circuit, the pintle seals against the orifice, blocking the exhaust flow to the intake manifold.

Purpose

The Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) system lowers the oxides of nitrogen (NOx) emission levels created by the high combustion temperatures.

Operation

The EGR valve (http://motoralldata.com/alldata/MOTOR~V31464278~C37357~R0~OD~N/0/77993956/78154671/92727709/92727711/34853741/34857029/34857699/34872079) will open when the conditions of operation have been met. This allows the exhaust gasses to re-enter the combustion chamber. When too much exhaust gas is allowed to enter the chamber, the proper combustion will not occur. For this reason, only very little exhaust gas is allowed to re-enter the combustion chamber.

(Courtesy General Motors)

Now, that's what GM says. Bottom line, allowing exhaust gas (inert air, cannot support combustion) to mix with the incoming air/fuel mixture DOES lower combustion chamber temps. allowing increased timing w/o the associated "pinging". So, it's an easy, popular fix.

Highly effecient engines (Quad-4, Eco-Tec, etc.) don't even use egr valves. Why is that? They are also very powerful (hp per cu. in.). They efficiently burn the a/f mixture w/o the high combustion chamber temps. due to their design (4 valve, overhead cam).

What does this mean for us? Well, it ain't gonna get us fuel mileage points, that's for sure. BUT, by restricting or eliminating egr, we have more oxygen available for combustion. Which means..........

BINGO! The MAF will see more air, allowing for more fuel delivery. We derive our power from the fuel, so, at part throttle, the engine will become more powerful (efficient? ehhh) resulting in part throttle driveability increases.

I restricted mine first, then totally eliminated it. Big difference. But, pre-95 you use a chip to compensate (for elimination). Most 95 and later, you restrict it w/o a program. Works like a champ.

But remember, it does nothing for full throttle as egr has no effect there (no egr operation at full throttle).

[01blzxtreme]

so for anyone who has this egr on their s10 was the difference noticeable....is it worth the 35$

[Nickelin'Dimer]

For give any dumbness to this question, but is there one for, or can be used on, the '96-up 2.2L?

[tonylinc]

mine is a 1991 4.3 w/TBI, should I use one of these? Thanks

[87wildside]

You can. This is the one you would need.

http://www.s10planet.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52552&postcount=32