StreetTrucks mag article on 2.2L

[gold2200flex]

I noticed while looking through a magazine rack today that the July 2006 issue of StreetTrucks mag had a article SERIES on how to squeeze some horespower out of our little 2.2 4 bangers. It says that their website is streettrucksmag.com. I tried to go there and all it says is Coming Soon. I am interested to see where the next few atrticles go to. Will you guys help me to keep track on this article right here on this thread?
Thanks
P.S. They are showing DYNO!!! results for each of their tune ups! yey!

[sdime03]

I love my 2.2 but I do have to admit it is weaker than most and have almost maxxed out on bolt on's all i have left is a alternator pulley which is next and a header...sometime I'm hoping to get a 2.2 and build it up for higher perf.....bored,balanced,eagle rods,ARP bolts and studs,P&P EVERYTHING,ported intake manifold, basically ALOT of work and some decent hp outta a N/A 2.2 it's either that a build up a different truck mine has been totaled before so the frame isn't so strong....but yea i've been trying to keep up on that but for me $400 for 14 hp is WAY too much money for the hp gain...Off topic but if you drop it and put some wider tires on it...it is a curve machine I have hung curves at 50 that are rated at 25mph w/o the tires making a sound also have hung a curve rated at 35 at 75 w/o a sound sorry about getting off topic

[gold2200flex]

Hehe Yeah my truck hangs curves pretty good too. Especially for a truck. lol I personally like the sound of any hp gain that is reliable. I sold my 2002 5.3L Silverado with tan leather and billet grill etc. etc. just to get this little cheapy gas sipper. I am saveing so much money now too. My insurance is about half as much and now I don't have that $250 a month car payment anymore. I also don't have that weekly heart ache of filleing up that 42 gallon gas tank anymore. 42 X 2.70 = over $113!!!! I do miss that awesome power though. I do still have my toys to pull now though too. So anything and everything I can get is VERY much appreciated. Right now I just have the power of a 1950's V-8 lol. Not to bad when you look at it like that! lol I'll place any more info I get on that follow up over the next few months though ok.

[zeke2422]

i love my 2000 s-10 2.2L extreme. its lower it corners good and i took my friends focus that was supped up , in the first 2 gears. its paid off and looks great washed, but yes i wish it got more hp but with out losing gas mileage. i am going to try to turbo mind after i close on my house. let me know what you guys are going to try to get more hp out of your s-dime.

[white00s10]

do a 2.2 ecotec swap.

Mounts and a bellhousing adaptor will allow the motor to bolt right up

built 2.2 ecotec > built 2.2 OHV

Built 2.2 ecotecs respond VERY well too boost

Im planning on doing a 2.2 ecotec swap as soon as i find a 2.2 s-10 5 speed :cool:

[gold2200flex]

hehe yeah I think a turbo running 6 psi is the best way to go. So long as the setup is set to boost low with a straite-through flowing exhaust. I am thinking about studying up on www.turboS-10.com (http://www.turboS-10.com) . I am going to try to study up on what all they have in their setup. That way I can just buy it peice by piece on my own and copy it sort of and do it for about half of the price. I don't want to use the same turbo though. Theirs does spool up and is at full boost at 2700 rpms from what I hear. What I am wanting to do is import a turbo off of the 3cyl VW Lupo from europe. I still want to do the flow #s though to see if it can handle a engine with our amount of displacement. If I can run as high as 4500 rpms with it then it would be fine. The differences that I have seen between the turbos are.... the VW has ball bearings and the mitsubishi turbo in the turbos-10 package has washer type bearings.... the VWs fins in the boost side of the turbo actually change shape at low rpms to give it boost at rediculasly low rpm speeds even for the 1.0 or so engine it is on.... and the actual size of the turbo is smaller on the VW I think. I think I read that it still pumps out 13 psi though so it should be able to handle the 6psi I want to use on my larger engine. I might not be able to go above 4500 rpms though (I honestly don't know yet), which is fine because I never go above that anyway. I bet my engine could be almost at full bosst at idle with that setup.lol It would be awesome for towing... but most importantly... gas mileage!.... I want to either put in a 6 spd tranny so I can idle down the freeway at 2000 rpms like the V8s do... or just change out my 5th gear ratio. That way I would go from 3500 rpms to maybe 2200 rpms.... which would increase my mileage by 1/3!!!

[gold2200flex]

I agree... an ecotech swap would be awesome too!

[Maxx]

I came across that page about 2years ago when it was under construction. Let me read it now....

[Street Truckin']

hehe yeah I think a turbo running 6 psi is the best way to go. So long as the setup is set to boost low with a straite-through flowing exhaust. I am thinking about studying up on www.turboS-10.com (http://www.turbos-10.com/) . I am going to try to study up on what all they have in their setup. That way I can just buy it peice by piece on my own and copy it sort of and do it for about half of the price. I don't want to use the same turbo though. Theirs does spool up and is at full boost at 2700 rpms from what I hear. What I am wanting to do is import a turbo off of the 3cyl VW Lupo from europe. I still want to do the flow #s though to see if it can handle a engine with our amount of displacement. If I can run as high as 4500 rpms with it then it would be fine. The differences that I have seen between the turbos are.... the VW has ball bearings and the mitsubishi turbo in the turbos-10 package has washer type bearings.... the VWs fins in the boost side of the turbo actually change shape at low rpms to give it boost at rediculasly low rpm speeds even for the 1.0 or so engine it is on.... and the actual size of the turbo is smaller on the VW I think. I think I read that it still pumps out 13 psi though so it should be able to handle the 6psi I want to use on my larger engine. I might not be able to go above 4500 rpms though (I honestly don't know yet), which is fine because I never go above that anyway. I bet my engine could be almost at full bosst at idle with that setup.lol It would be awesome for towing... but most importantly... gas mileage!.... I want to either put in a 6 spd tranny so I can idle down the freeway at 2000 rpms like the V8s do... or just change out my 5th gear ratio. That way I would go from 3500 rpms to maybe 2200 rpms.... which would increase my mileage by 1/3!!!

How much do those turbo kits run for? (the ones on the turboS-10 website)

[Sparky2263]

http://www.dts2.net/turbos%2D10/

Don't hold your breath.

[sdime03]

Those turbo kits are a little over 3,000$
http://www.maximumboost.net/index.php?cPath=21_350_353_354&osCsid=cb5fd9b3abbfd3ee61a5450c4a62d5e5
They carry turbo kits for a lil bit cheaper

[Grimm Noma]

you may want to try stsperformance.com as they actually have the parts you would need for a power gain.

[boxcarracer963]

aye man just to let u know this last post was over a year ago...

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Yes, and the price for the Stage-1 system has come down since then. $2500.00 it costs now. And oh, by the way... the LN2 (tu-tu) and the Ecotec are both "Metric" bolt-pattern bellhousings, so they will interchange. But then, why would you want to replace an engine with big-block Chevy heritage to its head design with a Lotus-derived high-winding low-endurance piece of clockwork? Anyone here who's a old-school performance fan should know what a BBC can do & what can be done with it, so why shouldn't they follow suit on something that takes design cues from that? And as for that "50's-V8" crack, that only applies to flat-heads... As in valve in-block, which the BBC design is way above in performance advantage.

[Akrodha]

Hehe Yeah my truck hangs curves pretty good too. Especially for a truck.

I set mine up with 0 degree camber and it made a difference.. handles even better, but don't do cause I said..

I run 225/70/14's which are a little meatier too.

[dt4ts3]

How much is involved in an Ecotec swap? Ive driven a Cavalier with one and the acceleration is great. So is the economy.

[jspear]

Ecotec swap.....interesting

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Everything outside of transmission needs to be swapped or fitted since there are no known engine mounts for it's use in a S-10 app, so it's alot of work, and not many people seem to offering-up answers how or parts for doing it. So I guess you'll need to do a bit of fabbing too. Now back to the original topic: What was the outcome of that article? I'm curious too as to what was gained from it all (HP, TQ, MPG).

[s-10 2.2much]

i also wanna see more about this article i wanna make my 2.2, 2.2 fast ! lol it can be done with the right funds i suppose

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Wanna really learn how to make the LN2 fast? Goto http://www.j-body.org and check in the performance forum. Ask for help specifically from guys like: MadJack, OHV notec, slowolej. These guys have been building LN2s for years and have a plethora of experience, tips & advice to divoulge to the fellow LN2 enthusist. Also download any tech articles (specifically the GM engine building guide) for the GM OHV 2.0L, as this engine is the design the LN2 was drawn & expanded on. Meanwhile, I'll wait with you and all others expecting that Sport Truck article. Seems like they never did a follow-up on it, even in reference.

[DMP]

i also wanna see more about this article i wanna make my 2.2, 2.2 fast ! lol it can be done with the right funds i suppose

Turbo or supercharger would be the way to go.

[T Man]

I set mine up with 0 degree camber and it made a difference.. handles even better, but don't do cause I said..

I run 225/70/14's which are a little meatier too.
Come talk about the twisties with the big boys over in suspension. Ill give you a hint though. 0 deg camber aint ****, and your tires are too damn tall to hold a decent curve.

[dart_06]

ok.. im havin a hard time believin that the ecotec will bold up to our tranny's.. imean the only ones that come in rwd are in the solstice and sky and they are 6 speed... so u would have to use a solstice/sky tranny for the swap along with the cpu... so alot of work would be involved in this swap...

[1low_s10]

I know this is late but is this what ya talkin about?
http://www.streettrucksmag.com/content/view/41/38/

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Damn close... Wish I could read the graph more clearly. How much of a gain did they get?

[1low_s10]

i really dunno man

[Nickelin'Dimer]

Hey, Dart! Don't let fact that the Solstice use's a 6-spd fool ya... The eco & LN2 do share the same (Metric) bellhousing. The only real worry would be if the clutch matches the 4/6-cyl T-5's input shaft (1", 16-spline IIRC). And guys, here's a bit of suprising news: The LN2's cam base-circle is the same as the hyd-roller SBC. This means that any loce in a cam company's catalog for the hyd-roller SBC can be ground onto the LN2's cam. Onew warning here, though: The effective operating RPM for the profile you choose will be 400-500rpm higher than listed for the SBC when used in the LN2.

Also look into making lifters that'll hold to higher revs (LN2/LT1 hybrid lifters) at http://www.jbody.org . It's a simple build that swaps the internal springs from LT1 lifters with the LN2 lifters factory springs. Ask MadJack there about it & uh, tell 'em Dimer sent ya!