Brodix Heads

[tunerpike]

Getting ready to order some Brodix v6-8 and was wondering if an angled plug would work with jba headers? Does anyone know?

[94s10]

i would guess not. cant you get those heads with straight plugs?

[tunerpike]

yea, but I heard you get better fire with an angled plug. I have been reading through the post and someone posted that the brodix don't quite flow as well as newer vortec heads. Does anyone have any flow numbers to prove this. I plan on ordering the heads tomorrow.

[tunerpike]

By the way 94s10 how is your truck running?

[94s10]

i have seen the flow numbers. the brodix dont flow worse than vortecs BUT, the numbers you get out of the box with the brodix can be achieved with ported vortec heads.

the brodix heads have thick castings and are meant to be ported. you can remove lots of meat and not worry about getting into a water jacket or something. comparing ported vortecs to ported brodix, there would be no comparison

[94s10]

By the way 94s10 how is your truck running?

like a raped ape! i'm having some wide band issues right now thats keeping me away from the track. the current o2 sensor has about 9 months of hard tuning on it so it time to replace it anyways, new one is on the way

[tunerpike]

I am going to start rebuilding mine soon. Going to stay with the supercharger for now though. I am not going to tear it apart until I get all the parts, should be in the next couple of weeks.

[94s10]

I am going to start rebuilding mine soon. Going to stay with the supercharger for now though. I am not going to tear it apart until I get all the parts, should be in the next couple of weeks.

how high are you planning on revving that thing? a buddy of mine did the whole built motor ported heads thing with the jammer running up to 6k and he couldnt get it to stop shredding belts on shifts. he has since swapped to a turbo setup. i think the key with those belts is to break them in very slowly but even then its hit or miss when your spinning that high

[Sparky2263]

Any updates?

[nomaboy]

yea, i'm curious to see how much those pricey heads did.

[firefighter]

How much were the Brodix heads anyways?

[nomaboy]

i think they are like 2600 bux...

[firefighter]

$2600, and they still need machine work right?

[tunerpike]

The heads are still sitting in the box they came in. They have already been ported and everything from brodix. I had a billet stroker crank on order but it was going to take about 2 months to get. So, about a week after I ordered it I cancled it and bought a new infiniti G35 coupe 6mt. I have not been on the site in a while. To tell the truth it's starting to get the old flame burning again to start building it.

[blue388]

Sounds like a sweet project! Get that thing going again and keep us updated.

[FrostEOne]

Anyone know is the Brodix V6 -8 or V6 -10 heads will work on a 96 and newer Vortec 4.3L?

[94s10]

i'm not sure on that one. i know they have tall port heads that would line up, but i think they are the older bolt pattern. i know they have heads that will work with older 95 and down intake manifolds though

you could call and ask brodix

[FrostEOne]

Sent an email to Brodix and Summit Racing. Summit replied with a price of 2294.99 a pair assembled, don't know if that was the V6 -8 or -10. Sent a reply today, asked regarding Edelbrock 2114/stock intake fitting. Haven't heard back from Brodix yet.

btw: I've sent badaszbowtie my 2114 to be modified, thanks for hooking me up with him.

[tunerpike]

The v6-8 and -10 are the same price. To run the -10 I believe you need at least 11.5 compression. Been awhile since I looked at the numbers on them. If you are planning on forced induction you need the -8.

[Junksterr]

So holy thread resurrection..... Will brodix heads fit on the newer motors IE my 98 block? I cant find a definate answer anywhere. And if so or if not, are the exhaust ports the same where you would bolt on your headers?

[12sws27]

So holy thread resurrection..... Will brodix heads fit on the newer motors IE my 98 block? I cant find a definate answer anywhere. And if so or if not, are the exhaust ports the same where you would bolt on your headers?

Yeah they'll bolt to your motor. The exuast ports never changed either. BUT....you can't use your intake.

[Junksterr]

What about the marine intake I didn't wanna go carbed and want to keep my charger.

[EricPts10]

The marine intake has the same mounting as the 96+. You would need an older style intake.

[EricPts10]

You could do something like the 2114 conversion but you would use the 2111.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-2111/

[Junksterr]

So I would have to go the carbed route then? If so could you still run a wynjammer setup.....

Obviously with fabrication you can do anything but im trying to keep as much tabbing as possible out of the equation and I don't want to use nitrous.

If not jammer might be up for sale soon

[Mikz86TA]

No, you can still be EFI. What Eric was pointing out is the common 2114 swap which is a Carb Vortec style head intake manifold by Edelbrock. The guys doing the 2114 swap take that, add injector bosses tot he intake runners, fuel rails and put a plate that converts the 4bbl opening on the manifold to the TB unit. Same applies if using the 2111 manifold, but the 2111 manifold has the pre-vortec bolt pattern to the heads. Thus you are trying to fit a pre-vortec bolt pattern head.

[Junksterr]

Ok so the brodix heads fit my block cause all blocks have same head bolt pattern but it has pre vortec intake bolt pattern so you run a intake like the 2111 and then convert over putting custom fuel rails and injector setup up to directly feed into the intake ports.... where as the marine intake was already set up for injectors

Sorry I know I repeated alot of what you said just wanna make sure im clear and understand in my own head how the setup works....

[EricPts10]

Now you have it.

There are ways to run old intakes on new heads so I guess the reverse could apply. Google something like "TPI vortec heads" maybe that will help. I know a lot of F body guys did the vortec head swap and kept their old style intake. Maybe you can find the info to use a vortec intake on old style heads. It may not be possible though. The vortec heads have taller ports IIRC

http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?205559-Old-style-intake-on-vortec-heads

[12sws27]

Then you have a sh!t ton of money in it to get the power you probably could of got by just getting your heads done and saving that sh!t ton of money.

[EricPts10]

X2
The vortec heads are pretty badass....

[Mikz86TA]

Ok so the brodix heads fit my block cause all blocks have same head bolt pattern but it has pre vortec intake bolt pattern so you run a intake like the 2111 and then convert over putting custom fuel rails and injector setup up to directly feed into the intake ports.... where as the marine intake was already set up for injectors

Sorry I know I repeated alot of what you said just wanna make sure im clear and understand in my own head how the setup works....

Correct. The Marine MPFI manifold is setup for Vortec heads.
Its the head to intake thats the problem and not the head to motor.

Used to the SBC guys would re-drill the intake for the different head. It was just the 2 center-most bolts that had a different angle. If I recall saying that right.
IDK about the 4.3L tho. Im not sure if there is a gasket difference and what exactly is the bolt difference. Could be adapted maybe but I dont have the info right now to reseach that option

[Junksterr]

Vortec heads compared to a set of ported polished brodix? The ones im looking at are 1k for the heads and matching intake

[12sws27]

The way I see it is it's like comparing the old fuelly v8 heads to the new v8 vortecs. They say the vortecs with 1.94/1.5 valves out flow the fuellies with 2.02/1.6 valves. The vortec design is better. The only thing that the Brodex would have on built vortecs is that they're lighter.


Plus, even if the heads came with a 2111 intake. You or going to spend another 500 on making it MPI.

Also, if the spark plug holes are angled that might be a problem with your exhaust manifolds.

[Junksterr]

Ah so unnecessary money spent and basically its just lightening the load where as you can get pretty much same performance from my existing heads.... well mind is made up if any one wants a set of al heads lemme know

Thank you everyone for your advice and input :)