If you created the xtreme...

[XtremelyLow]

If you worked at gm and they handed you the responsibility of creating the xtreme what ould you have done differently than gm actually did.

I would keep everythnig the same, only with a turbo, and chrome 18" xtreme wheels, a gm bolt on rollpan and door handles painted to match the rest of the truck.

[droopy89]

a 350, or more powerful 4.3, and a T56

[Hammer Head]

For engines the 4.3 would have been the base engine.. not the 2.2L. 4.8 & 5.3 would have been options.
Drive train more or less would stay the same.. would have used an aluminum drive shaft & hop-shock would have been standard & offered the T56 6 speed as an option.
Brakes would have been 4 wheel disc standard, hydroboost would have been an option.
Exterior I would not have offered those stupid lookin flame decals on the doors, the rear pans would have been rolled & a cowl induction hood would be optioned.
Interior would have had the floor shifted console & better seats, not the high-sitting truck seats & a different gauge look.. maybe something like the C5 vettes.

[Hammer Head]

Oh.. & there'd be no such thing as an Xtreme w/ an open rear. Posi only!

[droopy89]

I agree, posi only, and maybe atleast a 3.42 gear

[87wildside]

I'm with you guys but I would like to add option for 3.73 or 4.11 gears. Standard 17" rims. I would have offered a cleaner version of the body package. Something that would separate it from the standard S10.

[Mikz86TA]

Exterior would have a slightly raised hood like the 2006 silvy (power bulge I believe GM called it...looks not like much but its noticable), side skirts would be more subtle as the matching valence would be also, custon exhaust and outlet, roll pan option, 17" wheels of a better design with chrome option........Interior would be buckets/console only, an cluster with halo rings around the gagues,LED backlighting and different style numerals. Also the seats would be either a preferated center leather like the Z28s or a cloth houndstooth design. Door panel upholstry to match and a few other touches. Performance would come by a Hi-Po 4.3 or a LS1(remeber this is '99/'00) option, a 5sp behind the 4.3 or auto and a T56 behind the LS1 or auto. A 8.5 diff with 3.42/3.73 and manditory posi. ZQ8 suspension of course and 4 wheel disc brakes. Maybe a few other touches like a tailgate spoiler. Not gaudy but just a slight raised curve like the Backdraft one by Lund.

[Dogsofjune]

LS7, 'nuff said

[firefighter]

If we go to what was available at the time I would have done the following.

-8.5" posi rear MANDATORY 3.08/3.23/3.42/3.73/4.10 available

-Minor changes to the body kit factory roll pan being the main change

-interior upgrades mainly better buckets, upholstery on the doors

-Bose stereo with a factory sub option at least 10" (pair) kinda like a Pontiac Monsoon option

-ZQ8 suspension but lower at least the 3"front 4"rear from a regular dime

-LS1 if not possible at least a Eaton 112 on top of the 4.3L (no turbo for me)

-4L65e for the auto and a T56 for the rowers

-And at least the same brakes that are on LS1 Camaro's 12" X 12" PBR prefferably a C5 type of set up like mine

-17" Wheels but a staggered set 8" front 9' or 10" rear make them look like the last ZQ8 wheels

- And for the LOVE of GOD no 98mph speed limiter

- also NO GOLD ACCENT option that schizz was fugly the flames weren't too good either. The stripes were cool though.

[mxm]

If we go to what was available at the time I would have done the following.

-8.5" posi rear MANDATORY 3.08/3.23/3.42/3.73/4.10 available

-Minor changes to the body kit factory roll pan being the main change

-interior upgrades mainly better buckets, upholstery on the doors

-Bose stereo with a factory sub option at least 10" (pair) kinda like a Pontiac Monsoon option

-ZQ8 suspension but lower at least the 3"front 4"rear from a regular dime

-LS1 if not possible at least a Eaton 112 on top of the 4.3L (no turbo for me)

-4L65e for the auto and a T56 for the rowers

-And at least the same brakes that are on LS1 Camaro's 12" X 12" PBR prefferably a C5 type of set up like mine

-17" Wheels but a staggered set 8" front 9' or 10" rear make them look like the last ZQ8 wheels

- And for the LOVE of GOD no 98mph speed limiter

- also NO GOLD ACCENT option that schizz was fugly the flames weren't too good either. The stripes were cool though.

i 2nd that notion

[nomaboy]

LS7
T-56
3.73 or 4.10 gears
optional all wheel drive
true handling suspension
a completely stock body. no badges, no makings to give the truck away
:hearts_12

[Maximus]

I like all those suggestions I would only add AWD.

[firefighter]

I dunno about AWD the new TB SS seems to be killing the damn things in stock form. I also hear that the really fast Sy/Ty's disconnect the front axles for the 1/4. I know it's good for handling but you also gotta run the same size tire front and rear. I'm not saying it's no good I think it should just be an option not std like it was on the Sy/Ty's. Just my .02.

[nomaboy]

thats why i put this. cause yes it does use power.


optional all wheel drive



although with 500HP, i bet it would be hard to come out of the hole without it.

[firefighter]

although with 500HP, i bet it would be hard to come out of the hole without it.

Good point. I could only wish to have such problems.:(

[T Man]

Max beat me to it. I would have made it an awd pickup on the 4.3's 2wd on the 2.2's

[Hammer Head]

Screw the 2.2.. not good enough to be Xtreme.. unless you've got vacuum in all the right spots! haha

[firefighter]

they could use the 2.2L to run the compressor for the bag set up they'd want.
















did I say that? sorry.... sort of. aww hell I aint sorry. lol

[nomaboy]

yea. 2.2L kinda defeats the "xtreme" purpose.

[Maximus]

I dunno about AWD the new TB SS seems to be killing the damn things in stock form. I also hear that the really fast Sy/Ty's disconnect the front axles for the 1/4. I know it's good for handling but you also gotta run the same size tire front and rear. I'm not saying it's no good I think it should just be an option not std like it was on the Sy/Ty's. Just my .02.No most Sy/Ty trucks that are the fastest are AWD with prop shaft left on.The ones that use only RWD have traction problems.AWD in a 35 front 65 rear power split are a very affective combo to launch hard with no traction issues.I dont know what issues the SS Trailblazer is having but AWD is lethal with a high horse power engine.

[firefighter]

Yeah I guess I ain't gonna lie if I bought a TBSS it would so be AWD not sure why other than if I can get it I wan't it.

[Maximus]

I wish more vehicles offered AWD.I wish my S10 was AWD like a Sy/Ty trucks.Even with out their power AWD can have several advantages.

[Hammer Head]

Has a few disadvantages as well.. like added weight & it eats more hp than 2wd.

[nomaboy]

be nice if thy could do a "shift on the fly" AWD. you could launch it in AWD but when you get going fast enough not to need all the traction you could hit a button and kick it off.

[Maximus]

Then it wouldn't be AWD it would be a 4WD lol.AWD works we on non forced induction vehicles.Look at Subaru.AWD just has t many pros to out weigh the cons.

[Mikz86TA]

How about a torque controlled AWD? Something that would release like a clutch type setup after torque is gone away or a speed-related release.

[holsinger17]

hold on lets think fuel...lets take the existing engine options-

as for the four cylinder option...at least have it turbo'd or supercharged this will increase horse on the lower engine option and create better fuel economy for those who cannot afford the 6 cylinder option with the 4 speed automatic as optional but also have the 5 speed as the standard option paired with this motor...

as for the 6 cylinder i would rather have the 4.3 as a mid engine option as it is now but with higher compression as the mid-grade engine option (10.1 would be decent versus 9.1) and pair it with a 6 speed instead of the standard 5 speed. as the high end option 4.3 10.1 compression forged pistions and supercharged (preferably eaton)

regarding the gears nothing less then a 3.42 gear will do... 3.08's are dogs off the line 3.42's do the best all around regarding the rest are color matched interior options more power in the stereo end...possible a 10inch sub option

[boxcarracer963]

10.1 with a supercharger?

[Mikz86TA]

Id put a bunch of GFX on it, give it a 4 cylinder with an automatic and make it a extended cab. Oh, wait...they already did that

[baylorxdime]

i think firefighter nailed it. either the ls1 or a blown 4.3l, like ford has in the lightning. bigger gears, and such. Good list firefighter.

[rentedmule]

I would have liked to have seen an updated, more reliable version of the syclone.

A higher revving all aluminum 4.3 turbo AWD with maybe 350-400hp to stick it's nose in with the TBSS's, lightnings and SRT10's

6spd manual or stronger auto tranny

ZQ8 suspension + 1" in the rear to level it.

8.5" locking diff and gear options from 3.42-4.10s

17" black or gun-metal 5-spokes

A version should have been offered with a 2 speaker radio, plastic worktruck flooring instead of carpet, no AC, cruise, or power options but still with race-worthy bucket seats.

and a more subtle version of the xtreme body kit with some sy/ty styling cues to show it's heritage.

If I had the $ and time that's what I'd build :D (although I'd probably miss my heated leather seats this time of year)

[Markts04]

i don't know why all you guys would want to make the 4.3 the base model... i would say half of the xtreme's on the road are the 2.2L... just for the simple fact that by next summer gas will be 5 dollars a gallon.... i will the be proud to have a 2.2L w a 5spd... can't beat the 27-29 mpg/hwy i get.... personally i like the subtle changes they made from the stock s-10.... if you look back at other performance trucks... like the Ford Lightning... or the typhoon... or even the SRT-10 Ram.... they aren't that much different from the original models... a couple exterior mods.. like the xtreme.. i would agree to put 18" wheels and a locking fiberglass cover... but as far as the v-8 goes... that's for the street racers who have mom and dad paying for gas......my 2.2L outran a for f-250 6.0L turbo-diesel... until the 98mph governer hit

[firefighter]

There isn't much Xtreme about a 4cylinder P/U. Sorry.

[droopy89]

agreed and way to revive an old thread

[firefighter]

Yeah, that too. I wasn't gonna state the obvious. lol

[Chrisvich]

That and the 2.2 really doesnt get that much better mpg. I am rolling right around 23.5 hwy, so I would definitely rather have the power than getting that extra trip you get in mileage to the local Mickey D's.

[bespurcell]

My cousin's 98 with the 4.3 and a 5 speed got 28 mpg at 75mph.

[holsinger17]

i get 28 mpg and am rolling with the 4.3 and many who put the ls1's in the trucks seem to get just as good fuel if not better since the more power under the hood the motor doesn't work as hard with a truck as light as it is.

[87wildside]

personally i like the subtle changes they made from the stock s-10.... if you look back at other performance trucks... like the Ford Lightning... or the typhoon... or even the SRT-10 Ram.... they aren't that much different from the original models... a couple exterior mods.. like the xtreme.. ....and every truck you listed didn't come with a 4cyl or even a N/A V6. You're talking supercharged, turbo charged and a V10. Kinda defeats the purpose of making the argument for the 2.2 now doesn't it?

[Danzcameo]

I like your ideas but i would change the name to Cameo/Xtreme. of course,to obvious?

[DiCi21]

i get 28 mpg and am rolling with the 4.3 and many who put the ls1's in the trucks seem to get just as good fuel if not better since the more power under the hood the motor doesn't work as hard with a truck as light as it is.

Wow thats impressive...28 mpg. What do you have done to your truck that allows for such high gas mileage. I'm lucky to get around 18 or 19.

[bespurcell]

My cousins was bone stock. 4.3 5 speed 28 mpg.

[DiCi21]

sometimes i wish i could have found my truck with a 5-speed because of the extra horsepower and gas mileage that it comes with...:(

and it always adds a little more excitement to the drive :cool:

[manofthehour114]

I wish I had a 5-speed too... but I still get around 25 mpg with my 4.3 auto and it's all stock. Pretty good, eh?

... and I think the Xtreme was an awesome truck. It definitely should have been offered with a turbo/supercharged 4.3 though. That's the only thing I would change. The suspension setup on them and the ZQ8 was near perfection.

I think a 2nd gen Typhoon/Syclone would have been wicked, too.