electric vs gas

[bvr775]

We had a discusion going on hybrids. Instead of trashing a good article lets just discuss it here.

I found an interesting site on electric race vehicles that may change some of your minds about gas powered engines
http://www.nedra.com/
Anyone (http://anyone/) know how to build one of these things? I'm considering it. the info is out there I just have to gather it all up.

All things considered we've had over 100 years to figure out how to make a gas engine fast, so of course we'er way ahead of the ampheads, but consider how long people have seriously been intrested in makeing an electic vehicle go fast. The fact that most of these guys or private builders; I'm begineing to think even though they'er still not up to the 3 sec mark they will pass us fossil burner in a matter of just a couple of years.

lets hear some thought on this issue and mabey some info on building an electric dragster.

[T Man]

My stepmom has had 2 Toyota prius's and really liked them. She had the 1st gen, and aside from a lack of options, it was a pretty cool car. Her 2nd gen she loves. she got the highest option package and it is loaded. The technology from the 1st gens is now in the ford escape.

[Matt 4.3 TBI]

The nice thing about electric engines, is they have a flat torque curve. Full power as soon as current is available. Think of the traction problems a 1000hp electric car would have!

[bvr775]

I know there is a major issue with them snaping axels because almost limitless and on demand torque. I watch something on discovery a while back and they had all sorts of problems with breaking stuff, but the build seemed simple enough.
I thinck I can do better though. It woun't be no 9 sec monster or anything, but I'm hopeing to get atleast a 12 or high 11 out of one.

That being said where do i get a motor for a high performance electric automobile.

[Maximus]

I would love to see a full electric car with awesome power and looks be put in to production.I hate to pay what gas is today and is not gonna get any better.In fact OPEC watched our economy real close during thses high gas prices and it didn't hurt it much.So they know we can sustain the higher price for crude oil and we will never see gas any cheaper than it is right now according to OPEC the crooks.So I am all for electric powered cars.If they can get one close to the average powered car I would buy one for a daily driver.But it has to look good too.

[bvr775]

But it has to look good too.
i found this one on EVworld

http://www.evworld.com/images/volta_model.jpg

[bvr775]

here's the article that goes with it





Toyota's tribute to the father of the battery, Alessandro Volta is a 408 hp, THS-powered gasoline-electric hybrid sports car with top speed of 155 mph and zero-to-sixty in 4 seconds. Imagine what this car would do as an all-electric vehicle powered by lithium sulfur batteries with nearly five-times the energy density of today's powerful lithium-ion chemistry. That day may be just around the corner, assuming the remaining bugs can be worked out.


Dec 11, 2004 http://www.evworld.com/images/volta_model.jpg

Sion Introduces a Lithium Sulfur Rechargeable Battery

By Bill Moore (editoratevworlddotcom)

Exclusive 'From-the-Exhibition-Floor' interview with Sion Power President Melvin Miller on the company's breakthrough lithium sulfur battery technology





The way to successful battery electric cars may be through your laptop computer and cellular telephone.

It's generally accepted that battery EVs have suffered for a lack of a good, high energy density battery. Lead acid is might be cheap but its too heavy and too low in energy density to offer more than a 50-100 miles range before needing a lengthy recharge. Worse, they have a relatively short cycle life before needing to be replaced. While many intrepid early adopters learned to live with and love their electric cars, carmakers couldn't be persuaded that the rest of us would be willing follow suit.

Meanwhile, the growth of portable electronic devices from cellphones to camcorders to laptop computers has quietly continued to push advanced battery technology in an effort to help these devices become smaller, lighter and most importantly, operate longer, which, incidentally, is exactly the same thing we'd want out of batteries in a good electric car.

While nickel metal hydride batteries promised breaking the 100 miles range barrier, it is lithium chemistry that EV enthusiasts see as the real breakthrough technology that will make battery cars popular, with ranges approaching the once-elusive 300 miles.

Now along comes Sion Power (http://www.sionpower.com/) out of Tucson, Arizona -- a spin-off of the Brookhaven Labs -- with a derivative of lithium chemistry based on sulfur that it claims has a theoretical specific energy density that could more than quadruple the lithium-ion limit of 580 watt hours/kg to 2500 wh/kg. Their current prototype Li-S laptop computer power extender delivers 350Wh/Kg and they expect to have that up to 450 within two years.

As you might expect, the company is focusing its efforts on the portable electronics market where business travelers would love to have their laptops run for a solid-eight hours instead of the 1-2 hours common today. But that didn't stop Melvin Miller, the President and CEO of and Mark Jost from prowling about the 2004 Electric Drive Transportation Association conference in Orlando this past September. After all, millions of cars someday powered by their battery chemistry isn't a market to be ignored, be they battery, plug-in hybrids or fuel cell hybrids.

EV World took the opportunity to talk with them about their technology in this exclusive, "From-the-Exhibition-Floor" interview. You'll learn some interesting things about why they believe lithium sulfur is a better, safer technology, one could someday soon be powering high altitude, long-endurance, unmanned aerial reconnaissance aircraft. When that happens, car cars be far behind? In the spirit of the holidays, EV World is making this six minute-long interview available to all our readers as a representative sample of the type of "first person" industry narratives EV World is known for and available to our Premium service subscribers (http://www.evworld.com/subscribe.cfm) throughout the year. To listen to the interview, use the Flash-based MP3 Player at the right or download the MP3 file to your hard drive for "podcasting" on your IPod or similar MP3 device. END STORY

[Krazny]

****.
Thats a nice lookin car.
Are the batteries sold seperatly??? :D

[Matt 4.3 TBI]

Hehe, "Requires 300 AA Batteries: Sold Seperately"