Xtreme s10 what's the difference?

[Y NI Rider]

Ok I just bought an '00 exstreme finally. The hole front end was burned from the firewall forward. The only thing good was suspension,brakes,well put easely everything from the frame up is gone. I took the 4 banger out and put a 4.3 from an '01 s10. So I dont know much but the front end is s10.
So I need some help to know what the extreme has that an s10 doesnt as far as under the hood and body parts.
I know it has fender flares but dont know what kind and where to find them. Theres so much to chose from.
I got the grill and bumper of another extreme so thats good. What realy bothers me is that the engine is from an s10 and dont know if it qualifies as a true extreme lol. Truck only has 7k miles on it, great find huh? Engine has about 50k miles,and I used the instrament panel from the extreme.
So if someone could give me info on the diffrence between the the 2 trucks. I would appreciat it!!

[87wildside]

An Extreme has the ZQ8 handling package (suspension) and the body kit. That is the only differences.

[Y NI Rider]

I just bought an '00 exstreme frome an auction and brought it back to life.
The hole front end was burned from the firewall forward. I got an '01 S10 for parts so the whole front end is S10.
I need some help knowing whats diffrent in the 2. I got a bumper and an grill off another extreme so thats good. I need help finding fender flares! I found a bunch but dont know what 1 to use to look just like the original.
And as far as the engine is there a diffrence under the hood and if so what?
The suspension and brakes are originall though.
I just need a quick info on the diffrence between the two trucks if there is any.
I could really use the help.:(

[87wildside]

s10warehouse on ebay will have any of the body kit you need.

[Mikz86TA]

The fenders, hood, etc will be the same as to any other 1998-up S-series. The Xtrema had a painted front bumper, a full painted grille, specific Xtreme valence to match the body kit, fenders had slight wheel flares and it had fog lamps in the valence. GM provided an extention harness from just behind the parking lamp area to the valence for the fogs. The side body kit was a single part on the cab and only regular or extended cab specific. X2 on the S10Warehouse on E-Bay for cheaper replacement panels. On a FYI, as Eric described the Xtreme is just a body kit on a ZQ8 suspension. Can be had in a 2.2 or 4.3, auto or manual, stepside or fleetside and reg or ext cabs. LS interior was standard but it could have no power options and/or a bench seat.....or it could be fully equipped. There was a few more rare options. One called a HEAT, which featured flame decals behind the rear wheelsand HEAT decals on the rear sides. One was an 'appearance package' which featured gold inlays on the wheels, gold overlays on the Xtreme/S10 emblems and gold racing stripes. Last was another appearance package which had racing stripes also. Color of those stripes depended on the trucks color. Also the X had different 16x8 wheels. The suspension was the ZQ8. Which could be gotten on a regulat LS truck as well (like mine) and earlier S-10s had it availible on the Base (non-LS) trucks. Sonomas had a ZQ8 on SLS late models as well and an upgraded ZRX (StreetRider) packege unique to the Sonoma. ZQ8 Suspension included a 33mm front and 23mm rear sway bars, Bilstien shocks (DeCarbon on earlier models), QuickRatio steering box (12.1:1), Lower front coil springs, Lower rear leafs, 16x8 wheels and 235-55-16 tires, some had a HopShock and also there was an additional FrameBrace behind the cab.

[Hammer Head]

I've got the body kit, too. If you have a regular cab stepside bed & the price is right I'll unbolt it & ship it to you.

[87wildside]

Just take it off...haha

[Hammer Head]

The only things keepin me from doin that are..
1. IDK if the brackets I have now will work w/ the new valance (going from Xtreme valance to regular S10/Blazer valance)
& 2. I'd like to have the step shaver kit installed & painted.. unless someone here has some bumper ends for a step side they'd like to get rid of/sell so I don't have two holes in the back of the truck. hahaha..

[Mikz86TA]

Regular S10 Valence with a Painted bumper (like mine) just clips into the openings on the bumpers bottom lip. I think that was all. Ill check. I had 2 remove it once to re-align the bumper. Had a small accident..oops. You need pics Jason?

[Hammer Head]

Pix are always good, Michal... unless.. ok, maybe they're not always 'good' but this time they would be.

[Y NI Rider]

Thanx for the info guys been alot of help. I have an exstra blazer valence is anyone interested. I also lookin for an extreme valence i banged mines an a curb haha.

[Mikz86TA]

Hahaha...sending you a bumper with it already painted installed would be 'great' =) and also some pre-painted stepshavers =) But I cant do that unfortunatel;y. So the pics will have to do. Lemme get some and inspect it again for ya. Oh, and it Michel =) No A at all. Im different....or 'Special' as my parents told me. Short-Bus rides are fun..YAY!! LOL!

[Chrisvich]

Hahaha...sending you a bumper with it already painted installed would be 'great' =) and also some pre-painted stepshavers =) But I cant do that unfortunatel;y. So the pics will have to do. Lemme get some and inspect it again for ya. Oh, and it Michel =) No A at all. Im different....or 'Special' as my parents told me. Short-Bus rides are fun..YAY!! LOL!

I am pretty sure it just snaps in like you said Mike. There are probably like 12-15 holes in the bumper itself and you just sanp the valence on.

[Mikz86TA]

There was something with the tag plate area on the backside. It had maybe some push-lock pins. Ill get pics tomorrow. The sides I know are just clip on bacically

[Hammer Head]

IDK why I always spell it wrong.. I'm sorry Mike! (Yea, I'm gonna stick w/ what I can spell!)

[Mikz86TA]

Haha..Its all good. I was just pickin on ya. I really dont care. My last name gets butchered, so Im used to it. Also, when someone 1st reads Michel, they associate it with Michelle and not Michael. So in school, the 1st weeks of a new class were fun. I always know when my last name is going to get it. They start out strong "Fo.." than get softer, repeat Fo and attempt to spell it out. Actually amusing sometimes. Hehehe

[Hammer Head]

Yea, I remember the 1st time I saw it. It's about as complicated as mine. ..& there's no 'S' in my last name (I'm callin someone out on here.. you know who you are).. hahaha

[Mikz86TA]

Ohhhh! My bad, so its Hithead. I just assumed a S at the beginning. Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!! J/K

[Hammer Head]

What a douche bag.. haha

[Y NI Rider]

I'm not shur where the rear sway bar is located but I know I dont have the front one. I got the truck with no front end haha. Where is the rear one located and where do I find a front sway bar? Oh by the way I'm picken her up from the paint shop tomarrow, do you think I should paint the grill its off an s10. I was thinkin of keepin the middle crome and painting the rest and adding S&S inserts?

[Y NI Rider]

Haha thats a cool name wish mine wasnt so boring lol. Oh and Michel no A got it lol. Ma names Rick, I know doesnt everyone have that name haha.

[87wildside]

Yea, I remember the 1st time I saw it. It's about as complicated as mine. ..& there's no 'S' in my last name (I'm callin someone out on here.. you know who you are).. hahahaWho? Me? I'm lucky I can spell my own name...haha. I don't think I can say your's or Mike's last names...lol

[Hammer Head]

Haha.. no, not you. They'll remain anonymous. I knew Mike was French the second I saw his last name & I'm sure he knew some German was floatin around w/ mine.

[Mikz86TA]

German, Jamacian....you know Ger-maican =) {taken from BootyCall} And yeah, Rick is pretty hard to fu*k up.

[Y NI Rider]

Anyone know where I can get look-alike fender flairs. Chevy wants $417 bucks for the front pair...crazy! I know bushwacker makes a street class flairs but I dont know if they will match the back.

[Hammer Head]

How much of the body kit do you need? Just the flares or do you need the ground FX? Looks like we've got a starting place for how much my kit is worth. Let me know what you want & then we can work on a price... mine's all OEM Xtreme.

[Hammer Head]

Here's a link to the flares, or whatever you want, on ebay.. $55 plus s&h for each part.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140162411905&rd=1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140162411905&rd=1)

[Y NI Rider]

Thanx for the info you guys have been alot of help. My tuck is finally finished well for now. My front end needs a little more work bu besides that it looks great. Think im gonna go with a bumper cover instaed of the xdime air dam.
Lucky find an xdime with only 7k on the chassi but the engine has 40k.
What your guys take on the best tuner for my truck. Ive seen alot of superchip tuners and theres hypertech thats a little cheaper.
My spedos way off.

I'l put pics up as soon as I get them tranfered!!

[Mikz86TA]

You have different wheels size or tire size or different gears?

[Y NI Rider]

Well umm........The engine came off another stock s10 so i guess the gears,tires um think thats the only diffrence in the s10 and x10. And it shifts hard and revs up alot cuz cpu thinks im going fast lol....bull.
Wip blash at 10mph, didnt ned a BTM converter for that haha.

Anyone interested in my Iroc Z rims. Think I want 18" ones instead.
They have alot of meat still on the tires.

[Mikz86TA]

OIC. Heres a question......What year, original tranny, original motor was your truck to begin with? Next....What year, orig tranny and orig motor was the donor that the engine came from?

[Mikz86TA]

And what mods do you have done?

[Y NI Rider]

Origanall is an '00 x10 with a 4banger engine and auto trans completely stock with only like 7k miles on it. The engine burnt lol so I picked it up at an aution. Then bought an '01 s10 stock as well with a 4.3 auto trans and droped that in. So most of the front is the s10 the cab back is x10.
The rear end is stock x10 but I did put IrockZ rims 16" with 50 series tires. I had a friend follow me goin 60mph in his truck I was goin 80mph, and I was goin 25mph and a speed trap said I was goin 15mph. I would give you more times but our speed limit here highway is 60 and my friend is a wuss lol. I think a need an HP Tuner.

[Mikz86TA]

The problem with your speedo is gearing. The PCM for the 4.3 is calibrated from that gearing. A 4.3 Auto most likely had a 3.42 gear. The 2.2 either had a 3.73 or 4.10 gear. If you have the 245-50-16 on those Iroc rims like the Irocs had, then the difference between the stock S10 ZQ8/S10 Xtreme 235-55-16 isnt going to make that much of a speedo difference. The overall height difference is not that great.
Your best bet is to have the PCM reflashed, get a 3.42 gear or a Hypertech/Jet tuner/HP Tuner. Find your orig gearing ratio by looking it up on the white RPO label in the glove box. GU# or GT# will be it. Post that and we can tell you what it is. This being you kept the original diff in there.

[Y NI Rider]

Thanx woof woof for the info I totally forgot about the gear diffrance in the 4 banger. I'm goin to change the gearing first of all cuz 3.42 is better to work with. Is changing the gearing a pain in the rear or would it be better to change the whole rear end. I can pick one up at a junk yard probly wont cost any diffrent if i grabed the whole rear.
Im no pro machanic so changing gears might be trouble.

[Mikz86TA]

3.42 is probably a better all around gear for most driving. 3.73s arent too bad with OD and lockup converter, but will still turn some RPMs. The 4.10s ar just too much IMO for a street vehicle. Fun for the 1/8th and 60 ft times tho.
Changing them isnt hard as long as you follow the steps and take your time. There are a few things you need to know and understand 1st. Setting them up takes a few tools to verify its correct.
If just getting a 3.42 rear from a wreck, finding a low-mile (under 70K at least IMO) is key.

[Y NI Rider]

Thanx man for the info much apreciated. Your dead on with the RPM's and shift points are off. Hella easy to burnout though but cant go over 75 on freeway lol.
Finding a 3.42 is easy I have a friend that has a lot full of S10's. Anyone need parts for cheep just message me. I have a ZQ8 front suspension for an I4 with less than 10k on it any intrest just message me. Coils and springs, have stock ones to.

[Hammer Head]

It's great to get parts for cheap but I think shipping them to the mainland would kill us all on shipping.

[Y NI Rider]

Haha you probly rite on that. Maybe gettin a good deal on it might make up for the cost of shiping.
HHead is a coil swap easy on an s10. I have I4 springs on mine and it just bounces to much after the 4.3 swap. Goin to my buddys lot to grab coils and springs off a GMC. Hope they match up.

[LowSDime97]

3.42 is probably a better all around gear for most driving. 3.73s arent too bad with OD and lockup converter, but will still turn some RPMs. The 4.10s ar just too much IMO for a street vehicle. Fun for the 1/8th and 60 ft times tho.
Changing them isnt hard as long as you follow the steps and take your time. There are a few things you need to know and understand 1st. Setting them up takes a few tools to verify its correct.
If just getting a 3.42 rear from a wreck, finding a low-mile (under 70K at least IMO) is key.

x2 i was really gonna get the 3.73's but i went and got the 3.42's instead since those gears are a good medium and still will pick up some extra torque of the line, heres a pic of the gears i picked up and they look great for 45 bucks!:D and they r GM gears! the last pic shows u the pinion gear tooth count and the ring gear tooth count and shows GM stamped on the pinion gear, sry for the quality of the pics but they were taken from my cell phone

[Y NI Rider]

Pics are fine but the gears scare me a bit. Looks kinda complicated. Did you put them in yet and if so whats your take on what kinda skills and tools needed for install.
Oh and nice buy on the gears good deal.

[LowSDime97]

actually me and my buddy are putting the gears in this saturday along with putting that G80 in too, hopefully everything goes smooth, my buddy said it shouldnt be too hard, just setting it up may take a lil time

[Y NI Rider]

What needs to be set up before the install.

[LowSDime97]

i really dont know since i have never done a gear swap before, my buddy has a buch of notes from when he went to Wyo-Tech on how to do a gear swap and carrier swap, im sure Hammer Head and Mikz86TA will give u all the info u need

[Y NI Rider]

Thanx I'l ask them for some info. I need these gears changed soon. Cant race any ricers if I cant go over 75 lol.

[LowSDime97]

lol ya really, we gotta show them the American Muscle!

[Y NI Rider]

Yup we got alot here. We call um soil burners cause they only can burnout on dirt haha.

[LowSDime97]

lol nice

[Mikz86TA]

There are a couple things in the 'setup' of gears. First, your carrier that the Ring gear is on can be shifted from side-to-side. There are sometimes shims in the sides or one side from the factory and when replacing carriers, there is the need to adjust it. Sometimes it goes in the same, sometimes it doesnt. Second is the Pinion depth front to back.
You must install them first and determine if they are correct by using a marking compound on the gear teeth, spinning the gears and meshing them on the compound area ,and them obseving the pattern in which they mate. Forward and Reverse. The front side is known as the DRIVE side and the back side is known as the COAST side. When accelerating, the gears mesh on the Drive side and when coasting....well, you get it =). Sometimes the pattern will be meshing in the upper portion, lower portion or center portion. Also it can be toward the edge or center of the gear. Backlash is also another key in gear setup. That is basically clearance between the 2 gears. A Dial Indicator is used to measure this in thousants-of-inches.
Improper wear and failure at worst or noises at best are 2 outcomes of improper gear 'setup'.
Most of the time, just doing gears will not need much if any 'setup'. As long as attention to where everything was and a new CrushSleeve are done.
Doing a Carrier and gears almost always involves the need for 'setup'
http://www.thedirtforum.com/differential.htm
http://www.precisiongear.com/pgtechpatterns.htm
http://www.auburngear.com/aftermarket/common/literature/Differential_DisAssy_Assy_Instructions.pdf
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm

[LowSDime97]

i wish i was more knowledgeable on mechanical stuff like this, i really want to go to a junior college like Ivy Tech for some automotive knowledge, i mean i know the basic stuff good, its just when it comes to stuff like this im pretty much clueless, good thing u guys know this stuff! haha, much appreciated Mike

[Y NI Rider]

Looks like aligning the gears rite is the key. I can probly get it in no problem but doin it rite is another story. Il probly get my uncle to give me a hand he's a machanic so he knows his stuff and I watched him change gears on rigs before so a truck shouldnt be any harder. He should be alot of help along with your instuctions but I'l try to do the install mostly by your info.
Thanx for all the links Mike know I know what Im gettin in to.

[Hammer Head]

Haha you probly rite on that. Maybe gettin a good deal on it might make up for the cost of shiping.
HHead is a coil swap easy on an s10. I have I4 springs on mine and it just bounces to much after the 4.3 swap. Goin to my buddys lot to grab coils and springs off a GMC. Hope they match up.


Swapping coils isn't too hard. Read the repair manual & do it.. haha. It's what I do because I can't remember how to do everything. Even though it's more or less the same as changin a shock.

[Mikz86TA]

No problem. Good luck

[Y NI Rider]

Took the coils off a '00 BlazerX it had the blue and yellow shocks so I hope the coils fit my truck. The glove had ZQ6 not shur if its the same as a ZQ8.
My freind has rearends laying around. Is there a way to know if they have the 3.42 gears and posi without poppin the cover off.
And damn takin a lower cotrol arm off is a pain in the......I just popped the tie rods off and left the arms on. I'l press the rest off once I get it back to the shop, the bushing went on my truck. Blazer almost got me beet.
I'l post pics tomarrow once I change that arm.

[Mikz86TA]

Never seen ZQ6. But if it was a Blazer X, it has ZQ8. Unless they used a different RPO for the blazers. But the X-Blazer was tthe only Blazer with lowered susp. There was never a LS/ZQ8 like you could get in the trucks. Wouldve been cool tho.
The blue and yellow shocks are Bilsteins. But the Bilsteins are used on the ZQ8 sport susp, Z85 HD susp and some other models like 4wds and such. Just different part numbers and rates.
Top of my head I cant remember the RPO for the Extreme pkg. But I would look for it and see if its on that donor. It would suck to get almost done and realize you just put in the same part.
Was there a tag on the coils with a 2-letter code? If so what is it?
Doublecheck the RPOs on the donor.

[Y NI Rider]

Ok the truck is a '01 Blazer LS it has Bilstein shocks sway bars front and back. But the rpo says its a ZQ3 and ZQ6 so kinda worried if the coils are the ones to match my truck. I know it had a 4.3 in there so the coils should take the wheight but not shur if they are higher than tha ZQ8.
Heres a pic of the springs and RPO sticker.http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee187/ynirider/rpo001.jpghttp://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee187/ynirider/zq8007.jpg

[Mikz86TA]

I dont see any suspension related codes on that RPO list.
ZQ3 = Sales Convenience Pkg Code 2
ZQ6 = Power Convenience Pkg (power wdo/lock/mirror/etc)

[Y NI Rider]

Maybe that Blazer was a put together truck. I need to ask my freind if he knows if that truck was a build up. Can you tell if what kind of rearend this truck has by the rpo codes? Probly shouldnt go by that sticker though.Hers another pic of the truck a little dirty cause we just had a tropicall storm.
Aint she a beut.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee187/ynirider/mosterblazer.jpg

[Mikz86TA]

Well, out in the junkyard today I noticed every 2dr and a 4dr Blazer had both these codes. They also had the Bilstien (blue/yellow) shocks and none were a sport susp or ZQ8. It seemed like a basic LS with power opt pkg for the Blazers. Most 2000-up Blazers had the bilstiens.
I think that Blazer is just a reg LS model. If it had the Xtreme GFX, they were added. The X would definately have the ZQ8 on the RPO. But, they could be aftermarket springs.

[Y NI Rider]

Darn that blows maybe I should just put the belltechs on they looked about 2" shorter unloaded.
There the ones to the left of the blazer coils.

[Mikz86TA]

1SC = Opt Code 3
1SZ
11U = Ext color Metallic
6MP
7MP
92H
92I
AJ1 = Deep Tint
AM7 = Rear Fold Seat
AU0 = Keyless Remote
AU3 = Power Door Locks
AV5 = Front Bucket Seats
AXP
A31 = Power Windows
B30 = Carpet
B84 = Body Ornaments
C25 = Rear Wiper
C49 = Rear Defogger
C5C = 5000lbs GVW
C60 = Manual HVAC
DAY
DH6 = Illum Visor Mirrors
DK2 = Power Mirrors
DK7 = Overhead Console
D55 = Floor Console
EVA = Emissions Equip
E55 = Body Endgate
FE9 = Federal Emissions
GU6 = 3.42 Gear
JC1 = Brake related
K34 = Cruise Control
K60 = 100Amp Alt
L35 = 4.3 Gas
M30 = 4L60E Auto
NF2 = Emissions Teir1
N33 = Tilt Steering
N40 = Power Steering
N60 = Aluminum Wheels
QBF = Tire related
RSA
SLM = Order Processing Code
T61 = DRLs
UA1 = HD Battery
UPO = Radio FM/AM Cassette CD
UP8 = Radio Provisions
U16 = Tach
U73 = Fixed Radio Antenna
U89 = Trailer Wiring
VSG
VXS = Vehicle Compete
V54 = Luggage Roof Carrier
V73 = Statement
XBF
X88 = Chevrolet Nameplate
YBF = Tire Related
YD3 = Front axle GVW related
YD5
YD6 = Rear Spring, Base Equipment
ZBF
ZM8 = Electric Endgate
ZQ3 = Driver Conv Sales Pkg
ZQ6
ZW7
ZY1 = Solid Color
BC/CC = Base Cote and Clear Cote
U382E = Paint Color Lt Pewter Metallic
92H = Int Trim Color Pewter Cloth

[Y NI Rider]

Damn thanx Mike!!

[Y NI Rider]

Atleist I know it has the 3.42 gears I need.
That rearend has disc brakes mine are drum whats involved in changing it over to disc? Or should I just stick with drums.

[Mikz86TA]

Youll need the brake line that is strapped across the axle which ends at the flex line (flex line from body to axle). Id replace the caliper to hard line rubber lines, but go ahead and snag those too. Get the calipers. Slide tha axles out and get the backing plate the calipers mount to. There is 4 bolts that attach it to the axle tube end flange. Get the rotors for a core swap if you intend on replacing those. I would

Calipers shold be in good shape, but a rebuild kit is availible.
Rotors may need replacing or upgrade.
Flex lines I would replace. There are Russel and Earls braided kits for the front and rear lines, which is a good upgrade.
Backing plates have the mount for the calipers, mounts to the axle flange (same on drums) and has the park-brake shoes (may need repplacing but hard to come by.
Hardware I would just get it all in case you need something.
E-Brake cables I would get too. Its easiest to unbolt the backing plates and feed them over the axle to the drivers side. Its almost impossible to remove the e-cables from the backing plates. There is a looped holder you will need to unbolt. Also you may need to remove the cable in the truck to free up slack. Then there is a offset looking metal part that combines the left and right cables that you need to remove. And I cant exactly remember, but there is a end to end tube fitting that holds the inside ad rear cables together. The cables slide out of it which is where the slack comes into play.

[Y NI Rider]

Cool so I need a set of braided lines to replace old ones. Rear has only 35k on it so gears should be fine possibly cut or replace rotors and rebuild calipers and new pads to. I'l leave the calipers on the rear and just drop the leafs and take the whole thing. Probly grab sway bar and shocks for parts.
Yup those stock lines look sad. Braided ones look stronger and wider for more flow.
Thanx again Mike!!

[Y NI Rider]

Then its time for Hydroboost!!

[Mikz86TA]

FYI Blazer sway bar (rear) and truck swar bar (rear) is different. The front should be the same tho. All Blazers I beleive had the rear sway bar, but I am unsure if the X-Blazer had a larger one than the regular Blazer.
The shocks I am sure are a different dampening rate than a truck shock due to the extra weight of the Blazer. But it may ride good with them.
I bought a kit of Earls brake lines. With my Fr Disc Rr Drum setup on the TransAm, it had 3 lines (L and R Frt Caliper / Body to Rear Diff). The Disc rear set should have 5 lines. The OD of the braided lines was thinner than the rubber stock style. Reason is the ss braid is way stronger and doesnt need 2B thicker. There is a flexible liner inside of the braids. ID is the same size tho. I have heard over on the 3rd Gen F-Body Forum about the earlier Russell sets coming apart. One guy totaled his F-Body due to it. But suposedly they fixed the issue. I have heard no known issues with the Earls and I have had no issues myself.
Heres a pic. Not the best pic but it will give you an idea maybe :
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/Mikz86TA/Car/Restore/TA-RFFenderUnderRefurb2.jpg

[Y NI Rider]

Nice!!
How the hell is the underneath of your car so damn clean.
My truck has a new paint job from frame to hood and it dont look that nice. Well I live in the country so theres alot of dirt everywhere.
Nice to see a fresh lookin ride.

[Y NI Rider]

Darn lower control arm is a pain in the ass to change. One of the bushings went so I prceaded to remove it and founnd my hands full then it started to storm I was wet pissed and tired. So round two thw next day haha. Know I know why they dont sel pitman arms fore 2 wheel s10. They dont come off huh.
Whell its fixed now and theres less play in the stearing. Stupid rubber joint needs to go though. A shaft and pinion is next on that list.http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee187/ynirider/controlarm.jpgNew Arm

[Mikz86TA]

RU talking about the rag joint?
Whats up with the steering shaft?
And by pinion, you mean gear box?

[Y NI Rider]

Yup rag join....never knew they had those. They have to much play in them. I wanna fab somethin to replace stupid rag joint. But dont know if no play will damage the gear box.
First I need to change the coils. They cant take the wheight of the V6 very well. Is there a better coil than the ZQ8 ones. I have a belltech set but I used them before and dont like the ride.

[Hammer Head]

A lot of guys use the lower shaft from an astro/safari van to eliminate the rag joint. ...& no, it won't damage your gearbox. The reason car manufacturers use rag joints is to make the vehicle more comfortable to drive.. less feedback from the road.

[Y NI Rider]

Kool thanx for the info.
What year astro fits on the truck and what needs to be done?
I have 3 of them at the yard not counting my grandmothers in the drive way.....thanx grams lol.
Nah JJ

[Hammer Head]

From what I understand any year astro but only 2wd models..

[Mikz86TA]

A company sells an aluminum disc to replace the rag joint. I know they have them sized for F-bodies. Maybe they have the same size and can be used on the S-series as well. That IDK.
Heres the link : http://www.unbalancedengineering.com/Camaro/
scroll down to RagJoint Eliminator

[Y NI Rider]

Kool I'l check them out.
I found its the gear box that has all the play. My machanic put the wrong 1 in. He used one off a smashed s10 f n idiot. Look like I have my hands full. Think I'l park her after the holladays and just build her up.

[Y NI Rider]

The illiminator kit looks simple and eazy.
I had the same idea to just take the joint out. Hope they fit my truck.

[Mikz86TA]

You may need to redrill the holes...IDK.
The steering box in a reg S-series and a ZQ8/Xtreme are diferent.
The ZQ8/Xtreme box is the old F-body quick-ratio unit. You can get one off of a ZQ8/X or a F-body with 16" wheels. 12.1:1 is the ratio I think.
My 2003 ZQ8 has a white label on the end of it (front) with YJ stamp.

[Y NI Rider]

I got a question for yah guys. If I changed the contoll arm and there is still quit a bit of play and its not comming from the rag joint. Where is it comin from? I think its the gear box. Has about 15 to 20 degrees of play.

[Mikz86TA]

Probably the gearbox. I assume its turning play?

[Y NI Rider]

Wheres the best place to pick a new one up from. Got any links or sights off hand.
FYI for all you s10 fans I spanked 3 ricers today. My s10 only has an intake and these honda's had some work done. Nice to hear it cherp in second gear. First time opening it up WOT!!

[Mikz86TA]

Try e-bay. Slim chance to get a low-mile stock one off a wreck. Try S10Warehouse

[Y NI Rider]

Thanx Mike......Alwayz got it down man.

[Mikz86TA]

No worries =)

[Y NI Rider]

A guy on SYTY has the ZQ8 steering box for 140 shiped. There off an 01 ZQ8 with 40k or less. and is inspected and repainted comes with pitman arm. Probly my best bet and he's cheaper than any junker down here with our salty air in hawaii.

[Mikz86TA]

Probably not bad deal for your area. Low mile, checked, painted always helps and Hawaii may not have many yards availible to pick from.

[Y NI Rider]

Nope we dont have many places tp go to. And parts stores like Checkers,Autozone, ETC are way overpriced than the mainland.

[Mikz86TA]

Try some e-bay places. But otherwise sounds good 2 me =)

[Y NI Rider]

Going to pick up a 3.42 rearend for my truck and 4.3 ZQ8 front coils.
Hope it wont be a pain to change. Be back it a bit with pics and info.

[Y NI Rider]

Sorry guys have to take a rain check on a count of rain. Thought this cold wheather was done already darn tropicall storms.

[Y NI Rider]

Found out why my steering is so loos its the steering box. Machanic used one of an old blazer that was in a frontall collision(in a head on lol) so all the steering parts are no good fk'n idiot.
Well thought I would let yall know that you can get a new ZQ8 steering box from checkers for 380$ minus the core charge of $180. Not bad when there like 350 of ebay rite know. I hope that will improve the handling it jumps all over the road.

[Mikz86TA]

Dang. Hope it turns (no pun intended) out well =)

[rentedmule]

holy poop, a $180 core charge is pretty serious! so was the final price $200? That's more than reasonable for a new one. I lucked into my ZQ8 box, it was $150 off of a wrecked truck with only 4500 kms on it.

[Y NI Rider]

Dang. Hope it turns (no pun intended) out well =)

Hell yeah it better fr'kn turn lol. It comes in on the 23rd estimated so were gonna see if the guy at checkers get bashed over the head or not after I hook it up and its not a ZQ8. Oh BTW I bought it with my commercial account so I think I saved some $.

[Mikz86TA]

ZQ8 and the 3rd Gen Iroc/GTA box should be the same part #. They are the same GM 12.1:1 quick-ratio box. Only difference is the Pittman arm between the 2 vehicles. IDK if it comes with it on or not. If not, you need a puller to get yurs off. Ususally they are a PITA

[Y NI Rider]

:censored_ Hell yeah there a PITA. I tried taking one off from a regular s10 just so I can fix the play and I fr'kn gave up. Had her in a Vice and pounding tha crap out of it with a tire hammer and she didn't move. Bent the arm to shiznit though(a little anger managment lol). Someone moved my pullers and is yet to get my rath lol.
Hope it comes with one cuz I will not remove it unless maybe I could use my press hmmmmm.:rolleyes:

[Mikz86TA]

Holy Crap! hahahaha
I was using my worn out paper shredder today and it just quit. Im sick right now with the flu and didnt have the patience for it. So I got out a hammer, whacked the bottom of the shredder part 3xs with the last blow going completely through the plastic.
It works now.....WTF?

[Y NI Rider]

Sometimes they need a good beating to get them to do what you want them to do......or thats what my parents said....like it worked..hah.
Happy to hear you beat your paper shreader into submission.
Still gotta call checkers to se if it comes with the pitman arm. Dont like talking to the desk guys cuz they dont got a clue and I have to tell them how to do there job....only like the manager.

[Mikz86TA]

Sometimes they need a good beating to get them to do what you want them to do
I told my GF the same thing....but she still called the cops. WTF!!
Hehehehe J/K

[Mikz86TA]

Yeah, I worked at a PepBoys once for about a year as a temp job. We actually had some knowledgable people who built motors, raced dirt track and into cars in general. The dumba$$es thy hired on occasion got a severe hazing until they quit.
We also used to call the Discount AP (now Advance) and ask them for parts that didnt exist.....like a radiator for a 75 VW bug or a brake caliper for a 1983 Vette. hehehehe They were so stupid, we had fun for hours =)

[rentedmule]

I'll continue the hijack :D - I bought a super cheap palm sander about 2 years ago - it never worked right from the beginning and frustrated the hell out of me every time i used it. the other day I tried to fire it up again and within about 15 seconds it was in 10000 pieces on the floor and I felt much better :)

[bespurcell]

LMBO

[Mikz86TA]

Why is destroying things fun?

[bespurcell]

Everyone needs to vent occasionally.

[Y NI Rider]

Sometimes they need a good beating to get them to do what you want them to do
I told my GF the same thing....but she still called the cops. WTF!!
Hehehehe J/K


Called the cops...hmmm....wasn't good enough of a beating lol. I never hit a girl...not that im callin you out....but because I dont know if once I started might not stop. I'l just attak a wall or the closest thing in reach. Went after my x once and there was just a trail of brokin sh!t everwhere haha.:mad:

[Y NI Rider]

I'll continue the hijack :D - I bought a super cheap palm sander about 2 years ago - it never worked right from the beginning and frustrated the hell out of me every time i used it. the other day I tried to fire it up again and within about 15 seconds it was in 10000 pieces on the floor and I felt much better :)

It was well worth is wasnt it. Got rid of that peace of crap let your anger out and gave you something to clean up will you vented haha. Our way of anger management....dont need a shrink for that. My way of vented is going for a ride going at least 20 over drifting just about every turn I can and running from cops. I feel so relaxed after even with the adrenalin going.:shake_125

[Mikz86TA]

Id never hit a female either. Unless she was dishing out something on me that could end up being bad for me. Then I might have to subdue her. Im too much of a gentleman and was raised better. I was only joking around....hence the J/K part =)

[Y NI Rider]

Id never hit a female either. Unless she was dishing out something on me that could end up being bad for me. Then I might have to subdue her. Im too much of a gentleman and was raised better. I was only joking around....hence the J/K part =)

Oh yeah man I know what yah ment. Hope I Didnt affend you.
I never hit a girl before either thats not cool. I just brake things aroud them like walls and stuff within arms reach haha. Then she's like yeah brake your crap fine with me...argg...lol.

[Y NI Rider]

Why is destroying things fun?

WOOOOOOOOOSSSAA!! lol :D

[Mikz86TA]

I wasnt offended. I just didnt want another reading the post and getting a bad idea about me =)
I clarify me

[Y NI Rider]

Ok. Kool man. I know what you mean next thing you know the word on the planet is that mike is a wife beater lol.
Foshizl mah Nizle

[Y NI Rider]

I picked up my 4.3 rear end and noticed there where a couple newer trucks parked at the yard and thought to look at thr rpo codes and found they both have the G80 rear.
Here's some pics can yall conferm.

[Y NI Rider]

RPO says its a ZQ8 and it still has the suspension on it. I'l probly take the sway bars and leafs off it while I'm at it.

[Mikz86TA]

can I get a smaller pic please =P

[Y NI Rider]

Hahahahaha shut up Mike... my badd. I know I just took a look and well there isnt much to look at huh.
The story is I left my Uptage from sprint on the back of my truck and drove off. Someone found it called my mother and was nice enough to returne it without my sd memory card. So I cant transfer to my comp so I send it via email wich shrinks it haha.

[Mikz86TA]

Hehehehe

Well that sux. At least you got your phone back. Not too many people do that these days. Even if its unusable, they would rather trash it than be a good samaritan.
Ill take your word for it on the codes =)

[Y NI Rider]

One of the trucks is a 2000 s10 with all the goodies on it. I'm thinking of picking it up for $1500 it need a new bumper,grill,lights, and there's a smash on the rear fender. You think thats a deal considering the work that needs to be done?

[Y NI Rider]

Steering box came in today and cant wait to out it on but have to wait till saturday. I'l post up pics.

[Mikz86TA]

cool

[Y NI Rider]

PITA!!
I oppened a rearend to take the gears out and its the same one.
He told me it was the rite ones god damn this is old lol.
Well I'l drop onother this weekend.
Heres a pic guys.

[Mikz86TA]

What RU looking for again? Gears or a Locker?

[Y NI Rider]

Well Mike rite about now the gears will do just fine.
The blazer that had the gears I wanted with the G80 was gone when I got there fkn idoit...good thing I didnt give him any money for it. I got another ZQ8 rear half out when it started raining and now I have a cold so Its probly goin to be a next weekend project. Just wanna get my baby runnin alright...btw a ricer beat me the other day top end cuz I only can go like 70 or so(SUCKS). Called for a rematch in my ford and smoked him haha.

[Y NI Rider]

Hey Mike i got a good one for you...jacked up the back like you said to check what gears i have and there not 3.7's there 4.11's.....thats explains alot. I finally got time to finish droping that rear so just looking for time to swap the gears.
Am I damaging anything by running it with the 4.11 gears? Shure I am.

[Y NI Rider]

I got another rear off a sanoma that had the rite gears but had another suprise it had a g80. Not hure if I,m gonna put it in or gust take the gears. Not shure on how hard the setup will be for that.
Here's some pics.

[Beast S-10]

Xtreme Trucks came with

12:1 quick ratio steering box
2" drop
Larger front Sway bar
Better shocks
were sold in the V6 and I4
Stripe package ( I removed mine )
Frame brace above the fuel tank
Full body kit
Painted to match front grill
Xtreme badging
My truck has 3:42 Limited slip rear gears stock

[ollieking1]

not sure if anybody knows but LMCtruck has all the parts that make it an extreme... just order the catalog and you will have everything you need!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Y NI Rider]

Yeah I have the catalog, thinking i am goin to go with an aftermarkit look. After i fix my suspension wich is totally jacked lol. I went to low.
Anyone used the 3" lowered arms before? Feedback!!

[01blzxtreme]

well i bought my xtreme valance for a lil over 200 bucks on ebay and its an original i dont know if i got jacked but i couldnt find it anywhere else....

['94 Big Blaze]

guess i'll post this for you guys..

take a look:http://newtakeoff.com/index.asp?PageAction=PRODSEARCH&txtSearch=xtreme&btnSearch=GO&Page=1

[01blzxtreme]

guess i'll post this for you guys..

take a look:http://newtakeoff.com/index.asp?PageAction=PRODSEARCH&txtSearch=xtreme&btnSearch=GO&Page=1
damn bro thanks for the info, one of my quarter panels is broken and isnt straight might just buy one when i get a job...lol thanks again

['94 Big Blaze]

damn bro thanks for the info, one of my quarter panels is broken and isnt straight might just buy one when i get a job...lol thanks againno prob bro

[Mikz86TA]

GM still has the valence, kit and both the silver inlay and gold inlay wheels listed as availible on the GM Accessories site.

[Y NI Rider]

guess i'll post this for you guys..

take a look:http://newtakeoff.com/index.asp?PageAction=PRODSEARCH&txtSearch=xtreme&btnSearch=GO&Page=1

Big Blaze your da man!!
Why wasnt this site posted 6 months ago when i was building my truck......Hehe.
There's the flares i wanted.;)